Date: 14/01/2014 07:31:00
From: rumpole
ID: 469466
Subject: Another conspiracy theory ?
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Date: 14/01/2014 07:33:06
From: rumpole
ID: 469467
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

TEHRAN (FNA)- Former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden revealed documents providing incontrovertible proof that an alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, some media reports said.

A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, Whatdoesitmean.com reported.
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More at

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2014/snowden-reveals-et-contact.html

I guess it was only a matter of time really…, but considering he hasn’t been far wrong so far, who is to say ?

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Date: 14/01/2014 07:39:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 469468
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

rumpole said:

TEHRAN (FNA)- Former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden revealed documents providing incontrovertible proof that an alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, some media reports said.

A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, Whatdoesitmean.com reported.
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More at

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2014/snowden-reveals-et-contact.html

I guess it was only a matter of time really…, but considering he hasn’t been far wrong so far, who is to say ?

Probably only proves that one couldn’t trust any data gathered by the NSA

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Date: 14/01/2014 07:42:29
From: Jing Joh
ID: 469469
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

http://www.ufocasebook.com/

Seems legit.

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Date: 14/01/2014 07:53:36
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 469472
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

So fake it’s not funny.

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Date: 14/01/2014 08:18:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 469476
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Yea, the aliens are who taught the Indians to fly…

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Date: 14/01/2014 10:04:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 469496
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

>>>an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy,

hmm, I was thinking just that a few months ago

why would aliens be driving US domestic and international policy?

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Date: 14/01/2014 10:41:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 469500
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

CrazyNeutrino said:


>>>an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy,

hmm, I was thinking just that a few months ago

why would aliens be driving US domestic and international policy?

They may be from earth but they are still aliens.

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Date: 14/01/2014 10:59:22
From: rumpole
ID: 469502
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

CrazyNeutrino said:


>>>an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy,

hmm, I was thinking just that a few months ago

why would aliens be driving US domestic and international policy?

It all started with Kissinger I reckon. Always thought there was something strange about him.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:03:44
From: Tamb
ID: 469503
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

>>>an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy,

hmm, I was thinking just that a few months ago

why would aliens be driving US domestic and international policy?

They may be from earth but they are still aliens.


They are doing a pretty bad job of it then.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:08:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 469505
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

>>>an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy,

hmm, I was thinking just that a few months ago

why would aliens be driving US domestic and international policy?

They may be from earth but they are still aliens.


They are doing a pretty bad job of it then.

According to communications from the universe, earth is tipping the balance of scale throughout the universe and is unrepairable due to the density of us.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:10:50
From: Tamb
ID: 469508
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

They may be from earth but they are still aliens.


They are doing a pretty bad job of it then.

According to communications from the universe, earth is tipping the balance of scale throughout the universe and is unrepairable due to the density of us.


Gee! I didn’t realise we were so important.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:14:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 469513
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

They are doing a pretty bad job of it then.

According to communications from the universe, earth is tipping the balance of scale throughout the universe and is unrepairable due to the density of us.


Gee! I didn’t realise we were so important.

It was from a book I read years back.. co-written by the ex manager of Uri Geller.

Can’t offer the reference because the book was binned a couple of decades or more in the past.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:19:41
From: Tamb
ID: 469516
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

According to communications from the universe, earth is tipping the balance of scale throughout the universe and is unrepairable due to the density of us.


Gee! I didn’t realise we were so important.

It was from a book I read years back.. co-written by the ex manager of Uri Geller.

Can’t offer the reference because the book was binned a couple of decades or more in the past.


S’OK I believe the bloke actually wrote that. Either because he wanted to make money or, less likely, he believed what he was writing.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:21:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 469517
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Gee! I didn’t realise we were so important.

It was from a book I read years back.. co-written by the ex manager of Uri Geller.

Can’t offer the reference because the book was binned a couple of decades or more in the past.


S’OK I believe the bloke actually wrote that. Either because he wanted to make money or, less likely, he believed what he was writing.

Thankfully, I never buy such books, they simply seem to fall into my hands.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:23:14
From: Tamb
ID: 469518
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

It was from a book I read years back.. co-written by the ex manager of Uri Geller.

Can’t offer the reference because the book was binned a couple of decades or more in the past.


S’OK I believe the bloke actually wrote that. Either because he wanted to make money or, less likely, he believed what he was writing.

Thankfully, I never buy such books, they simply seem to fall into my hands.

That’s because you are one of the Chosen Ones.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:26:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 469520
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

S’OK I believe the bloke actually wrote that. Either because he wanted to make money or, less likely, he believed what he was writing.

Thankfully, I never buy such books, they simply seem to fall into my hands.

That’s because you are one of the Chosen Ones.

For some inexplicable reason, that thought has often popped into my consciousness.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:31:04
From: Tamb
ID: 469524
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Thankfully, I never buy such books, they simply seem to fall into my hands.

That’s because you are one of the Chosen Ones.

For some inexplicable reason, that thought has often popped into my consciousness.


Ha! See. Mind control of their Chosen One.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:34:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 469526
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

That’s because you are one of the Chosen Ones.

For some inexplicable reason, that thought has often popped into my consciousness.


Ha! See. Mind control of their Chosen One.

All this does is clearly display the effect of the above mentioned density upon communications. Either that or the aliens don’t have a clue.

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Date: 14/01/2014 11:56:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 469534
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Are these aliens genuine refugees or just looking for an easy life on human welfare benefits? I say boot them out and launch this sign into Earth orbit:

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:04:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 469535
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

LOL

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:05:17
From: transition
ID: 469536
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Not very nice, car, what if little old ET is gay and been driven from his home planet by homophobes.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:07:47
From: Tamb
ID: 469539
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

transition said:


Not very nice, car, what if little old ET is gay and been driven from his home planet by homophobes.

Well he’s not going to find any other ETs here. Gay or otherwise.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:08:10
From: poikilotherm
ID: 469540
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


transition said:

Not very nice, car, what if little old ET is gay and been driven from his home planet by homophobes.

Well he’s not going to find any other ETs here. Gay or otherwise.

I think ‘e does a fishing show now.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:09:32
From: transition
ID: 469541
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

>Well he’s not going to find any other ETs here. Gay or otherwise.

You just don’t know what ET’s been doing here on earth, they probably have stealthy depopulation methods.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:11:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 469542
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

transition said:


>Well he’s not going to find any other ETs here. Gay or otherwise.

You just don’t know what ET’s been doing here on earth, they probably have stealthy depopulation methods.

Fishing.

!http://www.spooled.com.au/tmp_img/Andrew_ET_Ettingshausen_with_Black_Jewfish_(450-white)_3458.jpg!

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:13:13
From: transition
ID: 469544
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

dog’s got the double bed, and aircon going, probably half asleep by now. Hasn’t worked out how to operate the remote yet, probably have make one for him with just three large buttons maybe.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:21:14
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 469552
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Maybe we are the aliens?

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:35:23
From: Tamb
ID: 469567
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

CrazyNeutrino said:


Maybe we are the aliens?

No. We play cricket. Aliens, like Americans, can’t grasp the concept.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:38:07
From: Skunkworks
ID: 469569
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Maybe we are the aliens?

No. We play cricket. Aliens, like Americans, can’t grasp the concept.

I must be an alien. The declaring concept baffles the shit out of me. You are winning easily and instead of totally humiliating and demoralising the other team and giving all your team some experience they declare and give the other team a chance to pull a victory albeit unlikely.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:42:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 469571
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Skunkworks said:

I must be an alien. The declaring concept baffles the shit out of me. You are winning easily and instead of totally humiliating and demoralising the other team and giving all your team some experience they declare and give the other team a chance to pull a victory albeit unlikely.

By declaring early you have more time to get the other team out without which the match is a draw regardless of the scores.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:42:54
From: Tamb
ID: 469572
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Skunkworks said:


Tamb said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Maybe we are the aliens?

No. We play cricket. Aliens, like Americans, can’t grasp the concept.

I must be an alien. The declaring concept baffles the shit out of me. You are winning easily and instead of totally humiliating and demoralising the other team and giving all your team some experience they declare and give the other team a chance to pull a victory albeit unlikely.

You declare so you can have a chance of winning instead of drawing.
If both teams have not been dismissed by stumps on the final day the result is a draw.
It’s a bit like being given a penalty kick in Union or League & going for a try to win the match instead of a goal to draw.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:45:10
From: Skunkworks
ID: 469576
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


If both teams have not been dismissed by stumps on the final day the result is a draw.
It’s a bit like being given a penalty kick in Union or League & going for a try to win the match instead of a goal to draw.

Well I don’t watch Union or League either. So its not just the team that gets the most runs? Both teams have to get out and then the one with the most runs wins?

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:51:42
From: Tamb
ID: 469583
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Skunkworks said:


Tamb said:

If both teams have not been dismissed by stumps on the final day the result is a draw.
It’s a bit like being given a penalty kick in Union or League & going for a try to win the match instead of a goal to draw.

Well I don’t watch Union or League either. So its not just the team that gets the most runs? Both teams have to get out and then the one with the most runs wins?


Sort of although you can have a tie if one team is dismissed for an identical score on the last ball of the day.
From wiki but it looks fairly accurate.
A tied Test refers to a rare result in Test cricket when the side batting second is bowled out for the second time, with scores level. Only two ties have occurred in the 2,000 Tests played since 1877. The first was in 1960 and the second in 1986. On both occasions, the aggregate scores of both sides (teams) were equal at the conclusion of play and the side batting last had completed its final innings: 10 batsmen had been dismissed or, from the perspective of the side bowling, 10 wickets had been taken. In other words the runs, wickets and innings were exactly the same.

In cricket, a tie is distinct from a draw, which occurs when play concludes without victory by either team (except where a Test has been formally abandoned).

Both tied Tests involved the Australian cricket team. Both ended in the last possible over of play on the last day with a ball to spare, meaning that within the space of several minutes all four normal Test Match results were possible: a win for the batting side, a win for the fielding side, a draw or a tie. Bob Simpson is the only person to be involved in both tied Tests — as a player for Australia in the first, and as the Australian team coach in the second.

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:51:47
From: party_pants
ID: 469584
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Skunkworks said:

I must be an alien. The declaring concept baffles the shit out of me. You are winning easily and instead of totally humiliating and demoralising the other team and giving all your team some experience they declare and give the other team a chance to pull a victory albeit unlikely.

Time. Even though it can go for up to 5 days, time does eventually expire. If time expires the match is declared a draw regardless of the position of the match. It’s like a boxing match by knock-out only, once the bell goes to end the final round the match is a draw, there is no points decision. To win in cricket, the losing team must have completed two innings, i.e. be “all out”

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Date: 14/01/2014 12:55:17
From: Tamb
ID: 469586
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

party_pants said:


Skunkworks said:

I must be an alien. The declaring concept baffles the shit out of me. You are winning easily and instead of totally humiliating and demoralising the other team and giving all your team some experience they declare and give the other team a chance to pull a victory albeit unlikely.

Time. Even though it can go for up to 5 days, time does eventually expire. If time expires the match is declared a draw regardless of the position of the match. It’s like a boxing match by knock-out only, once the bell goes to end the final round the match is a draw, there is no points decision. To win in cricket, the losing team must have completed two innings, i.e. be “all out”

To simplify.

Cricket: As explained to a foreigner…

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that’s in the side that’s in goes out, and when he’s out he comes in and the next man goes in until he’s out. When they are all out, the side that’s out comes in and the side that’s been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!

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Date: 14/01/2014 13:27:30
From: Soso
ID: 469591
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

rumpole said:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2014/snowden-reveals-et-contact.html

I guess it was only a matter of time really…, but considering he hasn’t been far wrong so far, who is to say ?

C’mon…. you left off the funniest part – the headline: “Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stun Russia”

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Date: 14/01/2014 13:33:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 469593
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Has aliens destroyed the twin towers conspiracy theory been done yet?

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Date: 14/01/2014 13:36:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 469594
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

CrazyNeutrino said:


Has aliens destroyed the twin towers conspiracy theory been done yet?

Must have been aliens.

They are the only ones who could make the laser generated images of the planes look so convincing.

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:22:46
From: Obviousman
ID: 469612
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

I’m sure their is a 9-11 claim with an image showing a UFO in the background. Troofers, straws, grasping, etc.

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:28:37
From: party_pants
ID: 469615
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Obviousman said:


I’m sure their is a 9-11 claim with an image showing a UFO in the background. Troofers, straws, grasping, etc.

I bet there’s some troofers who cringe at this and regard them as fools.

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:35:18
From: Obviousman
ID: 469620
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

party_pants said:


Obviousman said:

I’m sure their is a 9-11 claim with an image showing a UFO in the background. Troofers, straws, grasping, etc.

I bet there’s some troofers who cringe at this and regard them as fools.

Exactly. Whilst they see nothing wrong with laser beams, holographic aircraft, voice morphing, etc.

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:42:52
From: Obviousman
ID: 469622
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

I knew I’d seen it somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyyWyOilqJQ

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:45:02
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469624
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

One of the now dead passengers rang his mother and told her he was on a hijacked plan. Strangely he then asked her if she believe him and introduced himself by his full name.

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:47:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 469625
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

wookiemeister said:


One of the now dead passengers rang his mother and told her he was on a hijacked plan. Strangely he then asked her if she believe him and introduced himself by his full name.

She was half-way through telling him to get another plan when his phone went dead?

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:52:34
From: Obviousman
ID: 469626
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

wookiemeister said:


One of the now dead passengers rang his mother and told her he was on a hijacked plan. Strangely he then asked her if she believe him and introduced himself by his full name.

Yep – but no mystery.

http://www.911myths.com/html/mom__this_is_mark_bingham.html

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:53:18
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469628
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Then there’s the problem with the dancing Israelis dancing and laughing whilst filming the towers being attacked. Some little old lady saw them and called the police. The company they worked for for discovered to be a Mossad front and all of the employees except the dancing Israelis disappeared along with the company as soon as they were caught. The van they were caught in was looked over initially by a bomb sniffing dog which reacted to the residue of explosives. Damn that little old lady , it’s always the way isn’t it, you commit some heinous crime and you get spotted by a little old lady and blows the entire operation.

No one celebrated that kind of thing unless they are involved or against the US.

The testimony of that little old lady who called the cops is still out there on tube . So even if they wanted to kill her it’s too late and it would cause even more suspicion.

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:56:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469629
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Obviousman said:


wookiemeister said:

One of the now dead passengers rang his mother and told her he was on a hijacked plan. Strangely he then asked her if she believe him and introduced himself by his full name.

Yep – but no mystery.

http://www.911myths.com/html/mom__this_is_mark_bingham.html


I’m starting to suspect the debunking stuff now is itself suspect.

There are too many unanswered questions

Google “the lone gunmen” pilot show ( the x files spin off) only a few months before the twin towers were attacked it shows this exact scenario aimed at the twin towers

I suspect someone had got wind if what was about to happen and put it up on TV

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:56:57
From: Obviousman
ID: 469630
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

wookiemeister said:


Then there’s the problem with the dancing Israelis dancing and laughing whilst filming the towers being attacked. Some little old lady saw them and called the police. The company they worked for for discovered to be a Mossad front and all of the employees except the dancing Israelis disappeared along with the company as soon as they were caught. The van they were caught in was looked over initially by a bomb sniffing dog which reacted to the residue of explosives. Damn that little old lady , it’s always the way isn’t it, you commit some heinous crime and you get spotted by a little old lady and blows the entire operation.

No one celebrated that kind of thing unless they are involved or against the US.

The testimony of that little old lady who called the cops is still out there on tube . So even if they wanted to kill her it’s too late and it would cause even more suspicion.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis

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Date: 14/01/2014 14:59:00
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469631
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

The lone gunman plot had the aircraft being hacked and flown into the tower

There may have been no hijackers at all

The radio might have been tampered with

Don’t worry about mobile phone calls – you can buy jamming kits as an electronics kit

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:00:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469632
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Obviousman said:


wookiemeister said:

Then there’s the problem with the dancing Israelis dancing and laughing whilst filming the towers being attacked. Some little old lady saw them and called the police. The company they worked for for discovered to be a Mossad front and all of the employees except the dancing Israelis disappeared along with the company as soon as they were caught. The van they were caught in was looked over initially by a bomb sniffing dog which reacted to the residue of explosives. Damn that little old lady , it’s always the way isn’t it, you commit some heinous crime and you get spotted by a little old lady and blows the entire operation.

No one celebrated that kind of thing unless they are involved or against the US.

The testimony of that little old lady who called the cops is still out there on tube . So even if they wanted to kill her it’s too late and it would cause even more suspicion.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis


WMDs were a myth as well

What’s a myth and what’s not get called by the man with the gun

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:01:56
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469634
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

The 911 attacks were perpetrated by a foreign intelligence agency and us gov spooks

A trillion dollars up in the smoke and a decade long war that’s still going says we can expect more

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:06:50
From: Obviousman
ID: 469635
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Appeal to rebellion

Conspiracy theories in general, and the “n% of people doubt the story” claims in particular, also appeal to a sense of rebellion in people.

As Wikipedia puts it, “a rebellion is, in the most general sense, a refusal to accept authority.”

People don’t want to be sheep who are patronized by authority and told what they have to do and how they have to think. People usually distrust authorities and many believe that authorities are selfish and abuse people for their own benefit. This is an extremely fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

This is so ingrained in people that a sentence like “the official story” has basically become a synonym for “a coverup/lie”. Whenever “the official story” is mentioned, it immediately makes people think that it’s some kind of coverup, something not true.

Conspiracy theorists are masters at abusing this psyhcological phenomenon for their advantage. They basically insinuate that “if you believe the official story then you are gullible because you are being lied to”. They want to make it feel that doubting the original story is a sign of intelligence and logical thinking. However, believing a conspiracy theory usually shows, quite ironically, a great lack of logical thinking.

This is an actual quote from a JFK assassination conspiracy theory website. It’s almost as hilarious as it is contradictory:

“In the end, you have to decide for yourself what to believe. But don’t just believe what the U.S. Government tells you!”

(In other words, believe anything you want except the official story!)

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:07:28
From: Obviousman
ID: 469636
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Obviousman said:


Appeal to rebellion

Conspiracy theories in general, and the “n% of people doubt the story” claims in particular, also appeal to a sense of rebellion in people.

As Wikipedia puts it, “a rebellion is, in the most general sense, a refusal to accept authority.”

People don’t want to be sheep who are patronized by authority and told what they have to do and how they have to think. People usually distrust authorities and many believe that authorities are selfish and abuse people for their own benefit. This is an extremely fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

This is so ingrained in people that a sentence like “the official story” has basically become a synonym for “a coverup/lie”. Whenever “the official story” is mentioned, it immediately makes people think that it’s some kind of coverup, something not true.

Conspiracy theorists are masters at abusing this psyhcological phenomenon for their advantage. They basically insinuate that “if you believe the official story then you are gullible because you are being lied to”. They want to make it feel that doubting the original story is a sign of intelligence and logical thinking. However, believing a conspiracy theory usually shows, quite ironically, a great lack of logical thinking.

This is an actual quote from a JFK assassination conspiracy theory website. It’s almost as hilarious as it is contradictory:

“In the end, you have to decide for yourself what to believe. But don’t just believe what the U.S. Government tells you!”

(In other words, believe anything you want except the official story!)

http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/conspiracytheories.html

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:14:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469638
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

I don’t really care if the US attacked its own country men to justify an endless war

As long as I’ not paying for it. As long as we have credible military defence we’ll be joined to the hip for every war America is encouraged to wage.

I’m not sure if they could get away with a twin towers style attack here , there would be be too many people like Andrew Wilkie blowing the whistle . The whistle blowers in the US are the revenge if the conspiracy theorist – now you are having top secret info blown across the Internet , lots of stuff is no longer a conspiracy.

For my own personal safety I look for omens in my own life for what’s about to happen. When something seems amiss it is amiss.

George bush even made a joke about not finding WMDs . Make of that what you will.

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:18:01
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469639
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Edit: as long as we don’t have a credible defence

ie we rely on security from abroad rather than having a few decent guns

Australia had no ICBM system, a dying sub programme, makes no tanks, shows a passing interest in drones and makes a foreign rifle under licence because there’s no one here that us allowed to build a homegrown service rifle. Night vision had to be brought in from the US – the old stuff.

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:18:48
From: Tamb
ID: 469640
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

>>(In other words, believe anything you want except the official story!)
I have a rule of thumb. If it’s on ACA then it’s false.

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:32:58
From: Obviousman
ID: 469647
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

wookiemeister said:

Make of that what you will.

Yep, thanks, I will.
(Backs away slowly)

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:35:58
From: Skunkworks
ID: 469649
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Obviousman said:


wookiemeister said:
Make of that what you will.

Yep, thanks, I will.
(Backs away slowly)

He did actually in a display of appalling bad taste, it was on a White House Christmas Card (or maybe a video) of him looking behind curtains and such saying “those WMD have to be somewhere”.

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:39:25
From: Tamb
ID: 469652
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Skunkworks said:


Obviousman said:

wookiemeister said:
Make of that what you will.

Yep, thanks, I will.
(Backs away slowly)

He did actually in a display of appalling bad taste, it was on a White House Christmas Card (or maybe a video) of him looking behind curtains and such saying “those WMD have to be somewhere”.


When all the time they were in his own arsenal.

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:42:27
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 469653
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Tamb said:


Skunkworks said:

Obviousman said:

Yep, thanks, I will.
(Backs away slowly)

He did actually in a display of appalling bad taste, it was on a White House Christmas Card (or maybe a video) of him looking behind curtains and such saying “those WMD have to be somewhere”.


When all the time they were in his own arsenal.

.Do you mean, in his own arse n all?

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Date: 14/01/2014 15:44:30
From: Tamb
ID: 469655
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

bob(from black rock) said:


Tamb said:

Skunkworks said:

He did actually in a display of appalling bad taste, it was on a White House Christmas Card (or maybe a video) of him looking behind curtains and such saying “those WMD have to be somewhere”.


When all the time they were in his own arsenal.

.Do you mean, in his own arse n all?


LOL
That too ;)

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:03:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469674
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

I’m just loading up on mint slices now , its rare that such a thread comes on to this forum I have to make the most of it

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:04:34
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 469677
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

wookiemeister said:


I’m just loading up on mint slices now , its rare that such a thread comes on to this forum I have to make the most of it

Do the voices tell you to binge on mint slices?

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:05:13
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469678
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Witty Rejoinder said:


wookiemeister said:

I’m just loading up on mint slices now , its rare that such a thread comes on to this forum I have to make the most of it

Do the voices tell you to binge on mint slices?


the voices tell me many things – some of them illegal – allegedly

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:09:11
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469679
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

one thing recently that has made me wonder WTF is going on in this world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V7EL-Yg8Gg

theres some maniac in America who is interviewed behind a thick screen who was finally caught

don’t watch this if you are easily disturbed

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:14:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469683
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

I was wandering around a church graveyard in England and stumbled across a giant stone memorial of some 200 years ago to an entire family that had been killed by some nut who broken into the family home of a night and killed everyone – they caught the madman that did it and hung him of course. the short story is memorialised on the gravestone. I had always thought perhaps there could be background to the murder but perhaps not – the lunatic in the you tube was doing just that – random killings.

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:14:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469684
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

I was wandering around a church graveyard in England and stumbled across a giant stone memorial of some 200 years ago to an entire family that had been killed by some nut who broken into the family home of a night and killed everyone – they caught the madman that did it and hung him of course. the short story is memorialised on the gravestone. I had always thought perhaps there could be background to the murder but perhaps not – the lunatic in the you tube was doing just that – random killings.

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:17:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 469685
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Was it the same churchyard?

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:20:02
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469686
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Peak Warming Man said:


Was it the same churchyard?

the one next door as well it would appear

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:20:58
From: rumpole
ID: 469687
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Witty Rejoinder said:


wookiemeister said:

I’m just loading up on mint slices now , its rare that such a thread comes on to this forum I have to make the most of it

You need to get out more

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:25:13
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469689
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

rumpole said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

I’m just loading up on mint slices now , its rare that such a thread comes on to this forum I have to make the most of it

You need to get out more


I’ve already been out , now I’m back in

that sounds all wrong doesn’t it

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:30:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469694
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=784420&page=2

this is another interview with this person

I have always made sure that all doors are locked even when in the house – its too easy for lunatics to come in

my GF lived in one place where after sitting down I then went into a 5 minute tirade about how the door to the apartment should NEVER be left unlocked. the brother a little perturbed after I then settled down and never mentioned again did his own investigations to discover it was known to some neighbours that someone had been killed by someone walking off the street and into the apartment – they never found out who did it.

the interview confirms my suspicions that the nutters are opportunists , if you leave doors and windows open – they will climb in.

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:42:36
From: rumpole
ID: 469703
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

wookiemeister said:


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=784420&page=2

this is another interview with this person

Don’t know if there is any point reading interviews like that. There are some people whose brains just aren’t wired up properly and there is nothing anyone can do about that and the only thing that can be done is to execute them or keep them locked up until they die because if they get out they will do the same thing again.

Maybe some killers can be “re-programmed”, but your genuine psychopath has wiring problems that can’t be fixed, we just have to accept that.

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Date: 14/01/2014 17:43:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 469704
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

rumpole said:


wookiemeister said:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=784420&page=2

this is another interview with this person

Don’t know if there is any point reading interviews like that. There are some people whose brains just aren’t wired up properly and there is nothing anyone can do about that and the only thing that can be done is to execute them or keep them locked up until they die because if they get out they will do the same thing again.

Maybe some killers can be “re-programmed”, but your genuine psychopath has wiring problems that can’t be fixed, we just have to accept that.

Rumpole KNOWS.

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Date: 14/01/2014 18:12:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469720
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

rumpole said:


wookiemeister said:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=784420&page=2

this is another interview with this person

Don’t know if there is any point reading interviews like that. There are some people whose brains just aren’t wired up properly and there is nothing anyone can do about that and the only thing that can be done is to execute them or keep them locked up until they die because if they get out they will do the same thing again.

Maybe some killers can be “re-programmed”, but your genuine psychopath has wiring problems that can’t be fixed, we just have to accept that.


its been illuminating

by the looks of it , its down to easy they can get in

despite the interview I believe he targeted weak/vulnerable people/ unaware

he didn’t break into a gangsters house for example to try and kill him – he had enough presence of mind to pick targets – they weren’t totally random

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Date: 14/01/2014 18:22:10
From: rumpole
ID: 469728
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?
he didn’t break into a gangsters house for example to try and kill him – he had enough presence of mind to pick targets – they weren’t totally random

Fair point, but then there was Charles Manson & Sharon Tate, but that is the exception. It’s all about expressions of power, and the more powerless the victim, the easier it is for the killer. They are basically cowards when you think about it.

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Date: 14/01/2014 20:00:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 469773
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

rumpole said:



he didn’t break into a gangsters house for example to try and kill him – he had enough presence of mind to pick targets – they weren’t totally random

Fair point, but then there was Charles Manson & Sharon Tate, but that is the exception. It’s all about expressions of power, and the more powerless the victim, the easier it is for the killer. They are basically cowards when you think about it.


I suspect so

if they think they will cop a hiding or will be injured they back off

the character that go in the shooting rampages seem to surrender as soon as they see someone with a gun or shoot themselves

rarely do you see them attack someone armed like themselves

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Date: 15/01/2014 19:02:00
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 470341
Subject: re: Another conspiracy theory ?

Had to be an extraterrestrial intelligence influencing america because dog knows you can’t find any other kind of intelligence in America…

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