Date: 17/01/2014 11:58:58
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 471436
Subject: I C engine without piston rings

Hi Folks, this sounds interesting

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/aussie-invention-eliminates-piston-rings-40773?WT.z_csource=Outbrain&WT.seg_4=Outbrain

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Date: 17/01/2014 12:06:50
From: morrie
ID: 471443
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

bob(from black rock) said:

Hi Folks, this sounds interesting

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/aussie-invention-eliminates-piston-rings-40773?WT.z_csource=Outbrain&WT.seg_4=Outbrain


Looks interesting bob.

I was surprised to read:

“Dynex has brought the technology to the proof-of-concept phase, in which virtual modelling of the “air-sealing” principle looks promising enough to get to work on the real thing.”

I would have thought that they might have made a physical prototype by this point in the development process.

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Date: 17/01/2014 12:12:18
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 471446
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

morrie said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Hi Folks, this sounds interesting

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/aussie-invention-eliminates-piston-rings-40773?WT.z_csource=Outbrain&WT.seg_4=Outbrain


Looks interesting bob.

I was surprised to read:

“Dynex has brought the technology to the proof-of-concept phase, in which virtual modelling of the “air-sealing” principle looks promising enough to get to work on the real thing.”

I would have thought that they might have made a physical prototype by this point in the development process.

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Yeah me too morrie, perhaps they are trying to improve the “virtual modelling” process

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Date: 17/01/2014 12:41:53
From: Rule 303
ID: 471499
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

Interesting – If they call this ‘horizontally opposed’, what do they call the horizontal engines where both pistons run in the same bore (in opposite directions)?

This one for example, which also claims to be running without piston rings.

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Date: 17/01/2014 12:47:38
From: transition
ID: 471511
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

Smaller engines regulary do without rings, snug fitting piston.

One thing of snug fitting pistons is they do transfer heat to the cylinder wall.

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Date: 17/01/2014 12:59:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 471527
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

Is the Aussie Sarich Engine finished yet?

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Date: 17/01/2014 13:08:28
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 471528
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

Peak Warming Man said:


Is the Aussie Sarich Engine finished yet?

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Do you mean completed? or scrapped?

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Date: 17/01/2014 13:25:33
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 471531
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

bob(from black rock) said:

Hi Folks, this sounds interesting

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/aussie-invention-eliminates-piston-rings-40773?WT.z_csource=Outbrain&WT.seg_4=Outbrain

Not all that impressed sorry.
It might work okay in some applications but I doubt it’ll ever be used in regular car & truck engines. The reason being that whilst it may be half reasonable at sealing against airflow, it’s not so good with oil and the pistons need oil for cooling and to lubricate the gudgeon pin & bores.

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Date: 17/01/2014 14:17:42
From: morrie
ID: 471585
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

Peak Warming Man said:


Is the Aussie Sarich Engine finished yet?

I visited the Orbital Engine Co site in the early 90s. It was running on a skeleton staff at that stage. They had some very impressive test and prototyping facilities though and an enormous number of patents in the general area of engine technology. They still seem to be operating as Orbital Corporation. The orbital engine itself never seems to have made it into the real world.

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Date: 17/01/2014 19:38:38
From: Stealth
ID: 471780
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

morrie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Is the Aussie Sarich Engine finished yet?

I visited the Orbital Engine Co site in the early 90s. It was running on a skeleton staff at that stage. They had some very impressive test and prototyping facilities though and an enormous number of patents in the general area of engine technology. They still seem to be operating as Orbital Corporation. The orbital engine itself never seems to have made it into the real world.


The Orbital engine never made it, but some of the the tech has. The Direct Injection tech is being sold round the world. Marine engines are also drawing on Orbital Co tech.

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Date: 17/01/2014 20:04:02
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 471793
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

Stealth said:


morrie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Is the Aussie Sarich Engine finished yet?

I visited the Orbital Engine Co site in the early 90s. It was running on a skeleton staff at that stage. They had some very impressive test and prototyping facilities though and an enormous number of patents in the general area of engine technology. They still seem to be operating as Orbital Corporation. The orbital engine itself never seems to have made it into the real world.


The Orbital engine never made it, but some of the the tech has. The Direct Injection tech is being sold round the world. Marine engines are also drawing on Orbital Co tech.

The orbital engine was quietly shut down by the large oil companys in cohoots with General Motors and the CIA.
Nothing could be more obvious.

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Date: 18/01/2014 19:18:04
From: transition
ID: 472557
Subject: re: I C engine without piston rings

funny how the ‘ancient’ reciprocating piston engine ended up be such a practical design. rings and all.

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