Date: 24/01/2014 10:12:07
From: dv
ID: 475529
Subject: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-23/national-zoo-unveils-rare-tree-kangaroo/5215066?section=act
A pair of rare tree kangaroos has started a family at the National Zoo and Aquarium in Canberra, with the arrival of little Mani.

Goodfellow’s tree kangaroos are rarely bred in captivity and the new joey is an important boost for an international conservation program.

The species is critically endangered due to predators in far-north Queensland and illegal forestry in Papua New Guinea.

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Now hold the phone, I was unaware that Goodfellow’s tree kangaroo was found in NQ at all.

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Date: 24/01/2014 10:13:07
From: Arts
ID: 475532
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

dv said:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-23/national-zoo-unveils-rare-tree-kangaroo/5215066?section=act
A pair of rare tree kangaroos has started a family at the National Zoo and Aquarium in Canberra, with the arrival of little Mani.

Goodfellow’s tree kangaroos are rarely bred in captivity and the new joey is an important boost for an international conservation program.

The species is critically endangered due to predators in far-north Queensland and illegal forestry in Papua New Guinea.

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Now hold the phone, I was unaware that Goodfellow’s tree kangaroo was found in NQ at all.

too bad you haven’t taken a tour at Perth zoo.. or you’d know this, and would have got to feed one pumpkin.

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Date: 24/01/2014 11:04:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 475571
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Goodfellow’s tree-kangaroo (Dendrolagus goodfellowi) also called the ornate tree-kangaroo, belongs to the family Macropodidae, which includes kangaroos, wallabies and their relatives, and the genus Dendrolagus, with eleven other species. The species is native to the rainforests of New Guinea, and the border of central Irian Jaya in Indonesia. Under the IUCN classification, the species is listed as Endangered, which is a result of overhunting and human encroachment on their habitat. It is named after British zoological collector Walter Goodfellow.
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Says nothing about Australia or any of it’s territories like FNQ.

Diet

Although it feeds mainly on the leaves of the Silkwood tree (Flindersia pimenteliana), other morsels are accepted when available, including various fruits, cereals, flowers and grasses. It has a large stomach that functions as a fermentation vat, similar to the stomachs of cows and other ruminant herbivores, where bacteria break down fibrous leaves and grasses.[11
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Nothing about pumpkin.

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Date: 24/01/2014 11:18:16
From: Arts
ID: 475579
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Peak Warming Man said:


Goodfellow’s tree-kangaroo (Dendrolagus goodfellowi) also called the ornate tree-kangaroo, belongs to the family Macropodidae, which includes kangaroos, wallabies and their relatives, and the genus Dendrolagus, with eleven other species. The species is native to the rainforests of New Guinea, and the border of central Irian Jaya in Indonesia. Under the IUCN classification, the species is listed as Endangered, which is a result of overhunting and human encroachment on their habitat. It is named after British zoological collector Walter Goodfellow.
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Says nothing about Australia or any of it’s territories like FNQ.

Diet

Although it feeds mainly on the leaves of the Silkwood tree (Flindersia pimenteliana), other morsels are accepted when available, including various fruits, cereals, flowers and grasses. It has a large stomach that functions as a fermentation vat, similar to the stomachs of cows and other ruminant herbivores, where bacteria break down fibrous leaves and grasses.

true and true…

the signage at the Zoo shows distribution in FNQ (it always surprises people so i often point it out) – though their website fact sheet says nothing about it..
and here is a tree kangaroo chowing down on some pumpkin…


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Date: 24/01/2014 12:53:48
From: rumpole
ID: 475598
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Very cute

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Date: 24/01/2014 16:45:41
From: Arts
ID: 475677
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

The tree kangaroo is unique in that they can move their feet individually and can move backwards.

“Distribution – Habitat

Both Australian species are listed as rare under Queensland’s Nature Conservation Act. Both live in the rainforests of the Wet Tropics bioregion of North Queensland, Bennett’s from about Cooktown south to the Daintree River, including the Mt Windsor Tableland, and Lumholtz’s from the Daintree River south to the Herbert River gorge. They may overlap with each other on the Mt Carbine Tableland inland of Mossman. View: Tree-kangaroo distribution map

Bennett’s tree-kangaroo can be found on the coastal lowlands as well as the ranges, and extends along riparian strips into drier eucalypt forest.

Despite being recorded to have been common in lowland rainforests prior to large-scale clearing of its lowland habitat the Lumholtz’s tree-kangaroo is rarely seen below300m altitude and its highest densities now occur in complex rainforest on basalt soils of the Atherton Tablelands (750m-1100m). Nevertheless there are populationsin the tableland’s less complex rainforests on poorer soils as well as in wet sclerophyll forests (i.e. eucalypt forests – still relatively wet, but drier than rainforest and with a rainforest understorey) on the western fringe of the Wet Tropics bioregion and in riparian vegetation (rainforest species) along watercourses throughout the region.”

http://www.tree-kangaroo.net/tkInfo.html

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:07:43
From: Michael V
ID: 475703
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Arts said:


The tree kangaroo is unique in that they can move their feet individually and can move backwards.

“Distribution…

Both Australian species … Bennett’s … Lumholtz’s

View: Tree-kangaroo distribution map

http://www.tree-kangaroo.net/tkInfo.html

So, is the original premise of the thread – that Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo is not an Australian species – correct?

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:11:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 475708
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Michael V said:


Arts said:

The tree kangaroo is unique in that they can move their feet individually and can move backwards.

“Distribution…

Both Australian species … Bennett’s … Lumholtz’s

View: Tree-kangaroo distribution map

http://www.tree-kangaroo.net/tkInfo.html

So, is the original premise of the thread – that Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo is not an Australian species – correct?

DV contends that the Goodfellow Tree Kangaroo is not an Australian species, I looked at Wiki and agreed with him then Arts said she feeds them Queensland Blue Pumpkins, then it all went down hill.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:13:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 475709
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

The ones in Oz are probably illegal boat kangaroos.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:13:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 475711
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Bubblecar said:


The ones in Oz are probably illegal boat kangaroos.

LOL

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:16:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 475714
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Michael V said:


Arts said:

The tree kangaroo is unique in that they can move their feet individually and can move backwards.

“Distribution…

Both Australian species … Bennett’s … Lumholtz’s

View: Tree-kangaroo distribution map

http://www.tree-kangaroo.net/tkInfo.html

So, is the original premise of the thread – that Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo is not an Australian species – correct?

Yes.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:18:20
From: Michael V
ID: 475715
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Cheers.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:21:23
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 475718
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Zoos need to do more research into animal romance

these ones are happy with other, but there are a lot of animal couples in captivity that are not happy with each other

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:23:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 475720
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

A $200 voucher to watch animal porn might work.

Watching panda porn has worked for captive pandas in various zoos.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:30:43
From: Arts
ID: 475724
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

I just read the signs at the zoo and relay that information to the public.. along with some individual specific anecdotes on their behaviour and zoo events. The zoo also like to tell us about Arctic turns that live with the little penguins and that we shouldn’t talk about Darwins theory of Evolution around the Galapagos Tortoises.. even though there is a sign there discussing the very thing..

zebras and giraffes seem to work pretty well together.. for an small space (considering the numbers of animals) zoos seem to do remarkably well.. well, the ones that are accountable.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:33:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 475729
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Arts said:

we shouldn’t talk about Darwins theory of Evolution around the Galapagos Tortoises.. even though there is a sign there discussing the very thing..

Is that because religious people might be offended?

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:34:51
From: Arts
ID: 475731
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:
we shouldn’t talk about Darwins theory of Evolution around the Galapagos Tortoises.. even though there is a sign there discussing the very thing..

Is that because religious people might be offended?

I asked why and they said “Because some people might get offended” so I asked why they put a sign up about it (and there’s one at the Carnarby Cockatoo cage as well) and they did some hand waving and said that noone can get offended at a sign…
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Date: 24/01/2014 17:35:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 475734
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

That’s because no one reads signs.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:36:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 475736
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

>we shouldn’t talk about Darwins theory of Evolution around the Galapagos Tortoises

I’m sure the tortoises themselves are proud of their role in biology textbooks.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:37:14
From: Arts
ID: 475739
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Divine Angel said:


That’s because no one reads signs.

:)

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:41:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 475745
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:

That’s because no one reads signs.

:)

they glare in my eyes at night. I can’t read them

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:42:33
From: Arts
ID: 475747
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

To be fair, DV said found in Australia.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:43:57
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 475748
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

where are they from?

PNG?

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:44:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 475749
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

I wonder how many largish animals found elsewhere in the world are not represented in Australia by a single specimen, even in a zoo.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:45:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 475750
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

CrazyNeutrino said:


where are they from?

PNG?

Mostly, also some in Indonesia.

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:47:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 475753
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Arts said:


To be fair, DV said found in Australia.

That was the whole point of his thread.

bangs head against wall

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Date: 24/01/2014 17:48:41
From: Arts
ID: 475754
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

My work here is done.

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Date: 24/01/2014 20:08:06
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 475861
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

we shouldn’t talk about Darwins theory of Evolution around the Galapagos Tortoises

I’m sure the tortoises themselves are proud of their role in biology textbooks.
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What role?

They were eaten before they made it back…

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Date: 24/01/2014 20:09:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 475864
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

Mr Ironic said:

we shouldn’t talk about Darwins theory of Evolution around the Galapagos Tortoises

I’m sure the tortoises themselves are proud of their role in biology textbooks.
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What role?

They were eaten before they made it back…


Harriet wasn’t

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Date: 24/01/2014 20:17:13
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 475872
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

She was reportedly collected by Charles Darwin during his 1835 visit to the Galápagos Islands as part of his round-the-world survey expedition, transported to England, and then brought to her final home, Australia, by a retiring captain of the Beagle. However, some doubt was cast on this story by the fact that Darwin had never visited the island that Harriet originally came from.
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Well yes but no, and she survived the taxaduhmiracle procedure remarkable well…

It is well known that Charles Darwin traveled the world seeking new species… to eat.

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Date: 25/01/2014 23:38:34
From: dv
ID: 476569
Subject: re: Goodfellow's tree kangaroos

I admire Arts’s attempts to crash this thread.

But seriously, any ref I can find indicates Goodfellow’s tree kangaroo is not found in Australia, so perhaps the simplest explanation is that an ABC journo made a mistake. Shock.

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