Mega-Doughnuts: CERN to Study Plan for 100-Kilometer Atom-Smashers

If you thought atom-smashers couldn’t get any bigger, think again. European particle physicists will draw up plans for a pair of circular particle colliders, to be built one after the other, that would measure 80 to 100 kilometers in circumference and smash particles at unprecedented energies, officials at the European particle physics laboratory CERN announced today. The goal is to come up with the first “conceptual designs” in 5 years, in time to inform the next revision of the European particle physics strategy, which was formulated in 2006 and revised last May.

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I look forward to stealing the god particle and threatening the vatican

wookiemeister said:

I look forward to stealing the god particle and threatening the vatican

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Wouldn’t the Vatican have the God particle under secure lock and key + the Swiss? guards?

bob(from black rock) said:

wookiemeister said:

I look forward to stealing the god particle and threatening the vatican

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Wouldn’t the Vatican have the God particle under secure lock and key + the Swiss? guards?

So that’s why CERN can’t find it.

Tamb said:

bob(from black rock) said:

wookiemeister said:

I look forward to stealing the god particle and threatening the vatican

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Wouldn’t the Vatican have the God particle under secure lock and key + the Swiss? guards?

So that’s why CERN can’t find it.

That is a distinct pissabolity

bob(from black rock) said:

Tamb said:

bob(from black rock) said:

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Wouldn’t the Vatican have the God particle under secure lock and key + the Swiss? guards?

So that’s why CERN can’t find it.

That is a distinct pissabolity

CERN thought they’d found it but it was only a protestant facsimile.

CrazyNeutrino said:

If you thought atom-smashers couldn’t get any bigger, think again. European particle physicists will draw up plans for a pair of circular particle colliders, to be built one after the other, that would measure 80 to 100 kilometers in circumference and smash particles at unprecedented energies, officials at the European particle physics laboratory CERN announced today.

I went along to the ICHEP (International Conference on High Energy Physics) in Melbourne. The proposals for new technology to follow the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at that conference were all for either smaller machines, or for slight modifications of the existing LHC. So I came up with the following proposal for a particle collider.

Be great if we could build one here that big

CrazyNeutrino said:

Be great if we could build one here that big

Sorry, it overlaps the line of the Great Australian Trench we plan to dig just along our side of the WA border.

party_pants said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Be great if we could build one here that big

Sorry, it overlaps the line of the Great Australian Trench we plan to dig just along our side of the WA border.

To keep out all the car industry refugees out of WA?

This image went with the above. It shows pipelaying techniques required for the Australian Amateur Hadron Accelerator (AAHA!)

mollwollfumble said:

This image went with the above. It shows pipelaying techniques required for the Australian Amateur Hadron Accelerator (AAHA!)

I wonder if you could do a DIY type of collider?

PVC resting in a very shallow trench ie top of pipe just visible?

you’d need to use a theodolite, plough behind a ute?, sand to level the pipe?

wookiemeister said:

I wonder if you could do a DIY type of collider?
PVC resting in a very shallow trench ie top of pipe just visible?
you’d need to use a theodolite, plough behind a ute?, sand to level the pipe?

May need a handful of fridge magnets as well.

Carmen_Sandiego said:

wookiemeister said:

I wonder if you could do a DIY type of collider?
PVC resting in a very shallow trench ie top of pipe just visible?
you’d need to use a theodolite, plough behind a ute?, sand to level the pipe?

May need a handful of fridge magnets as well.

How do they work?

Carmen_Sandiego said:

wookiemeister said:

I wonder if you could do a DIY type of collider?
PVC resting in a very shallow trench ie top of pipe just visible?
you’d need to use a theodolite, plough behind a ute?, sand to level the pipe?

May need a handful of fridge magnets as well.

I’m thinking a very large cheap battery?

if you collected some scrap iron and aluminium or iron and copper you could build a huge battery to do the same thing.

Spiny Norman said:

How do they work?

FIIK.

I don’t think you could build a DIY one, could have too stringent tolerances

though I am looking back at that fusor again

Carmen_Sandiego said:

Spiny Norman said:

How do they work?

FIIK.

Magnus knows.

mollwollfumble said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

If you thought atom-smashers couldn’t get any bigger, think again. European particle physicists will draw up plans for a pair of circular particle colliders, to be built one after the other, that would measure 80 to 100 kilometers in circumference and smash particles at unprecedented energies, officials at the European particle physics laboratory CERN announced today.

I went along to the ICHEP (International Conference on High Energy Physics) in Melbourne. The proposals for new technology to follow the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at that conference were all for either smaller machines, or for slight modifications of the existing LHC. So I came up with the following proposal for a particle collider.

Good idea.

What’s the cost estimate?

There’s more room in Antarctica… and you’d save a little bit on cooling costs.

:)

So are they admitting that the 9 billion dollar toy is all washed up?

yes.

Mr Ironic said:

So are they admitting that the 9 billion dollar toy is all washed up?

It’s a tool, not a toy. Just like my chisels and sewing scissors are classified as tools.

Mr Ironic said:

So are they admitting that the 9 billion dollar toy is all washed up?

well

I remember when the naysayers were saying the thing could end up destroying the world

when I discovered exactly how much money they had spent on this thing I realised the world was in no danger

yes.
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So can they determine the cost benefit ratio, of the tool

Without employing 10 million dollars worth of accountants…

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

If you thought atom-smashers couldn’t get any bigger, think again. European particle physicists will draw up plans for a pair of circular particle colliders, to be built one after the other, that would measure 80 to 100 kilometers in circumference and smash particles at unprecedented energies, officials at the European particle physics laboratory CERN announced today.

I went along to the ICHEP (International Conference on High Energy Physics) in Melbourne. The proposals for new technology to follow the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at that conference were all for either smaller machines, or for slight modifications of the existing LHC. So I came up with the following proposal for a particle collider.

Good idea.
What’s the cost estimate?

I have Scottish ancestry, and you know what they say about Scotsmen. I did work out a cost estimate – it depends if you want to use superconducting or permanent magnets. With permanent magnets it comes in at noticeably cheaper than the LHC. The penalty for permanent magnets is the lower magnetic field requiring the large diameter. With superconducting magnets the cost would be astronomical.