Date: 13/02/2014 21:33:53
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 488132
Subject: Sound Waves

How does a layman easily work out the inverse distance law of sound waves?

Say someone is yelling at 100 or 110 decibels, how loud is that at 50, 75 or 100 mtrs?

This…

“The sound level will decrease by 6 dB every time
the source to the listener’s distance is doubled.”

Doesn’t make sense.

Ta.

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Date: 13/02/2014 21:59:01
From: Boris
ID: 488157
Subject: re: Sound Waves

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/acoustic/invsqs.html

might help.

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:25:04
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 488162
Subject: re: Sound Waves

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/acoustic/invsqs.html
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Yeah but no.

I get twice the distance is 4 times the area… but not a quarter of decibels. Are they like earthquakes?

With the mathamagic provided it gives a starting source of 100 decibels and at 100 mtrs…90 dB

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:29:02
From: sibeen
ID: 488166
Subject: re: Sound Waves

Mr Ironic said:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/acoustic/invsqs.html
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Yeah but no.

I get twice the distance is 4 times the area… but not a quarter of decibels. Are they like earthquakes?

With the mathamagic provided it gives a starting source of 100 decibels and at 100 mtrs…90 dB

A 6 dB drop is a quartering.

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:32:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 488169
Subject: re: Sound Waves

/* How does a layman easily work out the inverse distance law of sound waves? */
/*
“The sound level will decrease by 6 dB every time
the source to the listener’s distance is doubled.” */

Inverse square => double distance, one-quarter intensity.
Logarithmic scale for bel => 10 times intensity for each bel.
10 decibel = 1 bel

log10(0.25) = -0.60206

Yes like Richter scale for earthquake.

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:34:08
From: sibeen
ID: 488172
Subject: re: Sound Waves

Mr Ironic said:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/acoustic/invsqs.html
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Yeah but no.

I get twice the distance is 4 times the area… but not a quarter of decibels. Are they like earthquakes?

With the mathamagic provided it gives a starting source of 100 decibels and at 100 mtrs…90 dB

dB is a ratio. For sound the ratio is compared to a base of 10^-12 watts/m^2

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:38:59
From: transition
ID: 488178
Subject: re: Sound Waves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:41:33
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 488182
Subject: re: Sound Waves

log10(0.25) = -0.60206
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So is this the 6dB rule?

“Remember it is -6dB per each doubling of distance:
dB SPL/Distance in meters
100/2
94/4
88/8
82/16
76/32
70/64
64/128
58/256

So the difference of 100dB at 2 meters to 58dB at 256 meters, you are 128 times the reference distance but only -42dB from reference.”

Which gives a different result…

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:45:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 488189
Subject: re: Sound Waves

Can’t see the different result, please clarify.

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:51:00
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 488194
Subject: re: Sound Waves

For sound the ratio is compared to a base of 10^-12 watts/m^2
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Ok…

Does that, not so layman terminology, hold for sound 1,500 mtrs above sea level?

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:54:08
From: transition
ID: 488198
Subject: re: Sound Waves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_pressure

“When measuring the sound created by an object, it is important to measure the distance from the object as well, since the sound pressure decreases with distance from a point source with a 1/r relationship (and not 1/r2, like sound intensity)”

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Date: 13/02/2014 22:55:33
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 488199
Subject: re: Sound Waves

Well the second example suggests 60 to 70 dB at 100 mtrs

70/64
64/128
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The other 90…

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Date: 14/02/2014 01:00:20
From: morrie
ID: 488315
Subject: re: Sound Waves

>100 mtrs

wtf is a mtr?

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Date: 14/02/2014 01:03:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 488316
Subject: re: Sound Waves

morrie said:


>100 mtrs

wtf is a mtr?

Mount Rushmore?

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Date: 14/02/2014 01:05:18
From: Boris
ID: 488318
Subject: re: Sound Waves

motors. unit of sound intensity. usually compared to a hotted up V8 with a Hotdog muffler.

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Date: 14/02/2014 01:08:49
From: morrie
ID: 488320
Subject: re: Sound Waves

Boris said:


motors. unit of sound intensity. usually compared to a hotted up V8 with a Hotdog muffler.

how many mtrs in a doof?

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Date: 14/02/2014 01:10:57
From: Boris
ID: 488321
Subject: re: Sound Waves

does the amp go up to 11?

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Date: 14/02/2014 01:26:15
From: morrie
ID: 488327
Subject: re: Sound Waves

Boris said:


does the amp go up to 11?

It’s one louder.

Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.

Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.

by That’s So Taguchi December 19, 2010

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