Date: 14/02/2014 20:26:28
From: buffy
ID: 488826
Subject: Plant ID

This has come up in my veggie garden and I can’t place it. Is it something I planted as a veggie, or is it something that came in the sheep poo?

 photo Plant14Feb14_zps473314ce.jpg

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Date: 14/02/2014 21:28:32
From: Happy Potter
ID: 488974
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

This has come up in my veggie garden and I can’t place it. Is it something I planted as a veggie, or is it something that came in the sheep poo?

 photo Plant14Feb14_zps473314ce.jpg

Interested as I have this too. I’d assumed it was a type of marshmallow. If it’s from horse manure, that would explain why I have it everywhere.

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Date: 14/02/2014 21:37:54
From: bluegreen
ID: 488982
Subject: re: Plant ID

Happy Potter said:


buffy said:

This has come up in my veggie garden and I can’t place it. Is it something I planted as a veggie, or is it something that came in the sheep poo?

 photo Plant14Feb14_zps473314ce.jpg

Interested as I have this too. I’d assumed it was a type of marshmallow. If it’s from horse manure, that would explain why I have it everywhere.

Mallow Weed

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:21:23
From: buffy
ID: 488998
Subject: re: Plant ID

Well, I wondered about that, but the leaves are quite smooth. Not at all hairy. Maybe these are just the baby leaves.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:22:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 488999
Subject: re: Plant ID

bluegreen said:


Happy Potter said:

buffy said:

This has come up in my veggie garden and I can’t place it. Is it something I planted as a veggie, or is it something that came in the sheep poo?

Interested as I have this too. I’d assumed it was a type of marshmallow. If it’s from horse manure, that would explain why I have it everywhere.

Mallow Weed

Not Mallow Weed

pinch a leaf and if it is smelly it is a paddy melon. Otherwise it is a watermelon.
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Date: 14/02/2014 22:29:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 489003
Subject: re: Plant ID

Annual prostrate vine, with slender rough stems to 1.6 m long with undivided tendrils. Leaves alternate, ovate-cordate, 3-6 cm long, almost hairless above, rough and hairy below, divided into five obovate toothed main lobes, the middle the longest and often further divided into three lobes, the stalk as long as the blade. Flowers yellow small about 6 mm across. Cucumis myriocarpus

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:34:54
From: Dinetta
ID: 489006
Subject: re: Plant ID

Well I did think a type of melon but I’d be very surprised if anything would germinate from sheep poo…isn’t that digested to billy-o, like roo poo?

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:35:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 489009
Subject: re: Plant ID

Dinetta said:


Well I did think a type of melon but I’d be very surprised if anything would germinate from sheep poo…isn’t that digested to billy-o, like roo poo?

Everything grows in sheeps poo. That’s how we got widespread weeds.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:36:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 489010
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

Well I did think a type of melon but I’d be very surprised if anything would germinate from sheep poo…isn’t that digested to billy-o, like roo poo?

Everything grows in sheeps poo. That’s how we got widespread weeds.

oops.. sheep are already plural.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:36:24
From: bluegreen
ID: 489011
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:

Not Mallow Weed

pinch a leaf and if it is smelly it is a paddy melon. Otherwise it is a watermelon.

on second thoughts :P

it does look like a melon of some sort :D

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:37:30
From: Dinetta
ID: 489013
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Well I did think a type of melon but I’d be very surprised if anything would germinate from sheep poo…isn’t that digested to billy-o, like roo poo?

Everything grows in sheeps poo. That’s how we got widespread weeds.

oops.. sheep are already plural.

Oh OK, I’ve believed the wrong thing for a long time, then…I know it’s difficult for seeds to survive a bovine’s 17 (or however many) guts…

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:38:00
From: Dinetta
ID: 489015
Subject: re: Plant ID

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

Not Mallow Weed

pinch a leaf and if it is smelly it is a paddy melon. Otherwise it is a watermelon.

on second thoughts :P

it does look like a melon of some sort :D

:D

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:39:43
From: buffy
ID: 489019
Subject: re: Plant ID

I’ll go out and pinch a leaf in a minute. I’ve checked the weed database for Victoria and the paddy melon isn’t listed for this area.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:40:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 489020
Subject: re: Plant ID

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Everything grows in sheeps poo. That’s how we got widespread weeds.

oops.. sheep are already plural.

Oh OK, I’ve believed the wrong thing for a long time, then…I know it’s difficult for seeds to survive a bovine’s 17 (or however many) guts…

The difference of course is, that sheep droppings are often too small for many cucurbit seeds. So I’d suspect some cow pats were mixed up with the sheep droppings.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:41:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 489023
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

I’ll go out and pinch a leaf in a minute. I’ve checked the weed database for Victoria and the paddy melon isn’t listed for this area.

That would be true in older records but with droughts and shifting of fodder lots of things can change quickly.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:43:23
From: buffy
ID: 489024
Subject: re: Plant ID

The sheep poo came from under the shearing shed. Probably mostly sheep poo unless they were shearing cows too….

Very little smell at all. I’ve got a lot of other plants that outdo that one for smell by miles.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:43:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 489025
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

oops.. sheep are already plural.

Oh OK, I’ve believed the wrong thing for a long time, then…I know it’s difficult for seeds to survive a bovine’s 17 (or however many) guts…

The difference of course is, that sheep droppings are often too small for many cucurbit seeds. So I’d suspect some cow pats were mixed up with the sheep droppings.

Though the paddy melon seeds are the smallest at 3.5 – 4 mm

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:44:05
From: buffy
ID: 489026
Subject: re: Plant ID

It’s a current database as far as I know.

http://www.weeds.org.au/vicmap.htm

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:46:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 489029
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

The sheep poo came from under the shearing shed. Probably mostly sheep poo unless they were shearing cows too….

Very little smell at all. I’ve got a lot of other plants that outdo that one for smell by miles.

Yes but it is night time and it is best to wait until the sun is shining to smell it..

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:47:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 489030
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

It’s a current database as far as I know.

http://www.weeds.org.au/vicmap.htm

Well you have one other recourse.. grow it until it makes fruit.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:50:38
From: buffy
ID: 489035
Subject: re: Plant ID

I’ll let it grow for a while, I don’t need that bit of ground for a couple of months. Flowers might be useful.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:51:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 489038
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

I’ll let it grow for a while, I don’t need that bit of ground for a couple of months. Flowers might be useful.

The flowers will attract bees but then so too do those of Caltrops.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:55:29
From: buffy
ID: 489044
Subject: re: Plant ID

Aha! Citrullus lanatus var. lanatus (camel melon, wild melon, bitter melon, pie melon) is, however, more “widespread throughout mainland Australia”. (Auld and Medd). So I’m probably going with this. I’ll let it grow a bit more and watch it.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:57:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 489047
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

Aha! Citrullus lanatus var. lanatus (camel melon, wild melon, bitter melon, pie melon) is, however, more “widespread throughout mainland Australia”. (Auld and Medd). So I’m probably going with this. I’ll let it grow a bit more and watch it.

Yep this is also true. If the very young fruits are hairless or hairy is another indicator to help divide them. Round or oblong is another.

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Date: 14/02/2014 22:58:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 489049
Subject: re: Plant ID

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Aha! Citrullus lanatus var. lanatus (camel melon, wild melon, bitter melon, pie melon) is, however, more “widespread throughout mainland Australia”. (Auld and Medd). So I’m probably going with this. I’ll let it grow a bit more and watch it.

Yep this is also true. If the very young fruits are hairless or hairy is another indicator to help divide them. Round or oblong is another.

They are all spreading weeds and none of them worth eating.

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Date: 15/02/2014 07:49:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 489202
Subject: re: Plant ID

I remember now.. it is Citrullus lanatus var. lanatus that has the foul smell and looks the most like a water melon when young.

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Date: 15/02/2014 08:54:23
From: painmaster
ID: 489225
Subject: re: Plant ID

buffy said:

The sheep poo came from under the shearing shed. Probably mostly sheep poo unless they were shearing cows too….

Very little smell at all. I’ve got a lot of other plants that outdo that one for smell by miles.

sneaky mini cows?

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Date: 15/02/2014 08:56:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 489227
Subject: re: Plant ID

painmaster said:


buffy said:

The sheep poo came from under the shearing shed. Probably mostly sheep poo unless they were shearing cows too….

Very little smell at all. I’ve got a lot of other plants that outdo that one for smell by miles.

sneaky mini cows?


Sticky dags infested with whatever that was sat upon.

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