So how come sweet and sour beef, and sweet and sour lamb, are not culinary goers?

dv said:

So how come sweet and sour beef, and sweet and sour lamb, are not culinary goers?

Betty Crocker was wrong.

http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/sweet-and-sour-beef/4513d46b-704e-49fb-9fb2-a07c8661a917

Time for an experiment in Sweet and Sour dishes of various meats. Maybe some just don’t well with the usual other ingredients.

White meat goes better?

Pineapple seems to work with other meats on Pizzas and hamburgers and such.

Just thinking out loud…

Plenty of sweet & sour beef and lamb recipes out there, so the OP question is begging the question.

Bubblecar said:

Plenty of sweet & sour beef and lamb recipes out there, so the OP question is begging the question.

Which begs the question, now that the phrase “begging the question” is so frequently used in the sense of raising or demanding a question, can the original meaning of basing an argument on a questionable statement still be considered more correct?

Straws

Straws

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Plenty of sweet & sour beef and lamb recipes out there, so the OP question is begging the question.

Which begs the question, now that the phrase “begging the question” is so frequently used in the sense of raising or demanding a question, can the original meaning of basing an argument on a questionable statement still be considered more correct?

It is the only correct meaning.

OCDC said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Which begs the question, now that the phrase “begging the question” is so frequently used in the sense of raising or demanding a question, can the original meaning of basing an argument on a questionable statement still be considered more correct?

It is the only correct meaning.

Hmmm. In the original sense, the argument isn’t based on just any questionable statement – it’s based on a statement that somehow assumes the conclusion of the argument.

Wiki says

Begging the question means “assuming the conclusion (of an argument)”, a type of circular reasoning. This is an informal fallacy where the conclusion that one is attempting to prove is included in the initial premises of an argument, often in an indirect way that conceals this fact.

[…]

Modern usage

Many English speakers use “begs the question” to mean “raises the question”, “evades the question”, or even “ignores the question”, and follow that phrase with the question, for example: “this year’s deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?”

In philosophical, logical, grammatical and legal contexts, authorities deem such usage to be mistaken or at best unclear.

I’m rather fond of the phrase “begs the question”, but I’m afraid that it’s original meaning is being superceded by the modern usage.

Also see Rational Wiki

Many people use the expression “begs the question” to mean “raises the question” – in the sense that they believe an important point is being overlooked in the argument given. For example; “If God created the universe, this begs the question of who created God.” In this case, “raises the question” is the correct term. There are countless examples of this misuse, meaning it is not incorrect because people know what it means. Therefore pointing it out is best handled by professional and qualified pedants only. The original meaning of begging the question comes from a bad translation of petitio principii, literally a request (or beg) for the premise, which explains this problem.

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dv said:

So how come sweet and sour beef, and sweet and sour lamb, are not culinary goers?

Hmm, works well with pork, chicken & fish. Those are all naturally saltier than beef and lamb. Pork, chicken & fish are also softer meats. Pork, chicken and beef also (arguably) work better in pancake batter than beef and lamb, and the meats for sweet & sour dishes are traditionally served in batter.