Date: 5/03/2014 11:35:29
From: rumpole
ID: 498254
Subject: Throw out your diet (again)

Low carb diet may make you unhealthy, shorten your life: study

Eating a high protein, low carb diet could actually make you unhealthy and more likely to die younger, a landmark Australian study has found.

The three-year study by the University of Sydney’s Charles Perkins Centre found that while high protein diets might make you slimmer and feel more attractive, the best diet for longevity is one low in protein and high in carbohydrate

More at

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-05/low-carb-diet-may-shorten-your-life-study-finds/5299284

looks like its fat and healthy or thin and sick.

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Date: 5/03/2014 11:37:55
From: poikilotherm
ID: 498256
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

rumpole said:


looks like its fat and healthy or thin and sick.

No.

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Date: 5/03/2014 11:40:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 498257
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

>looks like its fat and healthy or thin and sick.

Or, enjoy a balanced diet but just don’t eat too much.

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Date: 5/03/2014 11:48:36
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 498261
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

Bubblecar said:


>looks like its fat and healthy or thin and sick.

Or, enjoy a balanced diet but just don’t eat too much.

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Eat anything you like, just don’t swallow.

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Date: 5/03/2014 11:52:50
From: OCDC
ID: 498264
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

Or hows about some moderation…

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Date: 5/03/2014 11:54:52
From: dv
ID: 498266
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

“What we did find is in late mid-life, when we analysed their health, the animals on the best diet, the low-protein/high carbohydrate diets, had better blood pressure, had better LDL cholesterol, had better glucose tolerance, less diabetes and so on,” he said.

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Basically, his research shows there are large fundamental differences between the metabolism and optimal nutrition of mice and humans.

Given their different evolutionary histories and location in the food chain, this should in any case be obvious, but (pats head).

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Date: 5/03/2014 11:57:05
From: rumpole
ID: 498272
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

dv said:


“What we did find is in late mid-life, when we analysed their health, the animals on the best diet, the low-protein/high carbohydrate diets, had better blood pressure, had better LDL cholesterol, had better glucose tolerance, less diabetes and so on,” he said.

——

Basically, his research shows there are large fundamental differences between the metabolism and optimal nutrition of mice and humans.

Given their different evolutionary histories and location in the food chain, this should in any case be obvious, but (pats head).

“Professor Le Couteur says plenty of data in humans already exists that shows people who choose a high protein diet have worse outcomes in terms of death and disease.

“Certainly we found and we expected to find that high protein diets led to weight loss and led to increased muscle bulk, but this was associated with worse outcomes, whether it was blood pressure or diabetes or life span,” he said.”

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Date: 5/03/2014 12:01:19
From: dv
ID: 498279
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

rumpole said:


dv said:

“What we did find is in late mid-life, when we analysed their health, the animals on the best diet, the low-protein/high carbohydrate diets, had better blood pressure, had better LDL cholesterol, had better glucose tolerance, less diabetes and so on,” he said.

——

Basically, his research shows there are large fundamental differences between the metabolism and optimal nutrition of mice and humans.

Given their different evolutionary histories and location in the food chain, this should in any case be obvious, but (pats head).

“Professor Le Couteur says plenty of data in humans already exists that shows people who choose a high protein diet have worse outcomes in terms of death and disease.

“Certainly we found and we expected to find that high protein diets led to weight loss and led to increased muscle bulk, but this was associated with worse outcomes, whether it was blood pressure or diabetes or life span,” he said.”

He made those comments in interview, but they were not part of his study, so basically unless he provide refs, he’s just chatting. High carb diets are associated with diabetes in humans.

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Date: 5/03/2014 12:02:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 498284
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

Sounds good if you want to die pretty.

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Date: 5/03/2014 20:44:36
From: Soso
ID: 498615
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

It’s beginning to seem like you’re going to die no matter what you eat.

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Date: 5/03/2014 20:45:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 498617
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

Soso said:


It’s beginning to seem like you’re going to die no matter what you eat.

took you a while.

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Date: 5/03/2014 20:46:10
From: SqueezeBabe
ID: 498618
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

Soso said:


It’s beginning to seem like you’re going to die no matter what you eat.

+1

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Date: 5/03/2014 20:48:43
From: dv
ID: 498626
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

On the other hand, some people want to live into their 90s and enjoy koala tea time with their fams, rather than keeling over of heart attack or stroke in their 40s.

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Date: 5/03/2014 20:50:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 498629
Subject: re: Throw out your diet (again)

dv said:


On the other hand, some people want to live into their 90s and enjoy koala tea time with their fams, rather than keeling over of heart attack or stroke in their 40s.

missed out on the latter. Maybe something will happen in the former?

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