Date: 8/03/2014 11:35:07
From: Kingy
ID: 500267
Subject: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

Mysterious flashes of lightning sometimes herald earthquakes, and now scientists may have discovered why: Shifting grains surrounding faults in the Earth may generate an electric charge.

This strange flickering, known as earthquake lights, can occur before or during quakes. Recent findings suggest earthquake lights seem to happen at rifts where pieces of the Earth are pulling apart from each other.

Normal lightning results from the buildup of electrical charge in clouds. However, lab experiments now suggest earthquake lights may instead originate from the buildup of electrical charge in the ground surrounding geological faults.

Applied physicist Troy Shinbrot, of Rutgers University in New Jersey, and his colleagues looked at three different kinds of particles — plastic disks, glass particles and organic powders, such as flour — that stick and slip in much the same way the Earth does in earthquake zones.

He and his colleagues study electric charge in powders, which, for example, can make pharmaceutical mixtures separate or stick to surfaces in unwanted ways in factories.

The researchers discovered these different systems all developed an electrical voltage when physically disturbed, though there is currently no known physical mechanism for exactly how they do this.

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More at link:
http://news.discovery.com/earth/weather-extreme-events/mysterious-earthquake-lights-might-be-explained-140227.htm

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Date: 8/03/2014 11:51:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 500272
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

Interesting.. thanks.

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Date: 8/03/2014 13:50:49
From: rumpole
ID: 500285
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

“The researchers discovered these different systems all developed an electrical voltage when physically disturbed, though there is currently no known physical mechanism for exactly how they do this.”
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Piezeoelectricity is well known.

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Date: 8/03/2014 13:52:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 500286
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

rumpole said:


“The researchers discovered these different systems all developed an electrical voltage when physically disturbed, though there is currently no known physical mechanism for exactly how they do this.”
============================================

Piezeoelectricity is well known.


But do they know the mechanism?

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Date: 8/03/2014 13:52:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 500287
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

rumpole said:


“The researchers discovered these different systems all developed an electrical voltage when physically disturbed, though there is currently no known physical mechanism for exactly how they do this.”
============================================

Piezeoelectricity is well known.


But do they know the mechanism?

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Date: 8/03/2014 13:57:36
From: rumpole
ID: 500289
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

wookiemeister said:


rumpole said:

“The researchers discovered these different systems all developed an electrical voltage when physically disturbed, though there is currently no known physical mechanism for exactly how they do this.”
============================================

Piezeoelectricity is well known.


But do they know the mechanism?

According to this they do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity#Mechanism

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Date: 8/03/2014 14:15:54
From: morrie
ID: 500291
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

The triboelectric effect is another phenomenon that can cause charge build up in granular materials.

I have watched rocks being fed into an underground crusher and there was considerable light generated, that I took to be an indication of electrical discharge.

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Date: 8/03/2014 14:58:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 500297
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

morrie said:


The triboelectric effect is another phenomenon that can cause charge build up in granular materials.

I have watched rocks being fed into an underground crusher and there was considerable light generated, that I took to be an indication of electrical discharge.

throwdowns.

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Date: 12/03/2014 06:00:02
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 502282
Subject: re: Mysterious 'Earthquake Lights' Might Be Explained

You’re a smart bunch. Yes, the usual explanation for these is piezoelectricity but this new group is proposing that it’s triboelectricity instead.

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