HEAPS
never went much there after it changed
but some times i would spend several hours a day there

Lots.

But meanwhile, this is the next best thing.

You’re living in the past man.

Kingy said:

Lots.

But meanwhile, this is the next best thing.

This place can’t hold a candle to the SSSF… this is naught but a chat room for a collective of like-minded refugees… It attracts no new members and so will eventually wither and die.

but in the mean time it gives us a place to come and whinge about how glorious the past was as well as talk about cricket…

I don’t miss sssf at all. There are many good science forums out there that don’t put up with nonsense … We have here for nonsense :)

Arts said:

I don’t miss sssf at all.

Traitor.

Nauru ——>

Kingy said:

Arts said:

I don’t miss sssf at all.

Traitor.

Nauru ——>

Hardly. I haven’t sold secrets or anything.

Will they revive it?

Can you link to some of the other fora you mention ?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Will they revive it?

I’d venture to say that this is most likely out of the question. The social science experiment was done and has been dusted.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Will they revive it?

I’d venture to say that this is most likely out of the question. The social science experiment was done and has been dusted.

The ABC is now under the control of the heathens, who hate science and think that the CSIRO is a radical leftist organisation that must be destroyed.

If SSSF is restored it will be under an icon of Tony Abbott’s face, and any mention of AGW, clean energy, IVF and conservation will be deleted by the free thought censors.

rumpole said:

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Will they revive it?

I’d venture to say that this is most likely out of the question. The social science experiment was done and has been dusted.

The ABC is now under the control of the heathens, who hate science and think that the CSIRO is a radical leftist organisation that must be destroyed.

If SSSF is restored it will be under an icon of Tony Abbott’s face, and any mention of AGW, clean energy, IVF and conservation will be deleted by the free thought censors.

Then it is probably best it remain to gather the dust of partly forgotten memories.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Will they revive it?

SSSF was shut down by the ABC as part of a convenient show to the government that it could do its bit to stifle expression of opinion.

Look at ABC News website, and the ‘have your say’ facility: there’s nothing to identify the stories on which they’ll let people express opinions – the option seems to get appended at random to one or two stories per day (if that), and you discover it at the bottom of the report, designated in a very unobtrusive way.

Then, comments are allowed for only a narrow window of time, and are heavily moderated.

The other day, i not only found the anointed story, but found it inside the time window for comments. I was so excited by my good fortune that i forgot what i wanted to say about the story.

well… i’ll be blunt-ish

I tried to “recreate” the forum but got cried down because it wasn’t “the same” – so none of you can whinge about that as far as i’m concerned.

There is another recreation that I’m sure people frequent/haunt or whatever, but what is done, is done.

I want to do it

SqueezeBabe said:

well… i’ll be blunt-ish

I tried to “recreate” the forum but got cried down because it wasn’t “the same” – so none of you can whinge about that as far as i’m concerned.

There is another recreation that I’m sure people frequent/haunt or whatever, but what is done, is done.

:)

I miss the idea, but not the reality.

It was very often just a heaving sack of writhing neurotics and destructive arseholes. When the curtain finally fell, it had been years since Dr. Karl had promoted it, it very rarely attracted new members and the few genuine science questions is tackled were heavily bogged down by people letting their personalities, or history of conflict, get in the way.

I regret that it never fulfilled its potential, and I miss some of the contributors, and I’m sad it went the way it did; but honestly, with the moderation it got, it never had a hope.

Rule 303 said:

I miss the idea, but not the reality.

It was very often just a heaving sack of writhing neurotics and destructive arseholes. When the curtain finally fell, it had been years since Dr. Karl had promoted it, it very rarely attracted new members and the few genuine science questions is tackled were heavily bogged down by people letting their personalities, or history of conflict, get in the way.

I regret that it never fulfilled its potential, and I miss some of the contributors, and I’m sad it went the way it did; but honestly, with the moderation it got, it never had a hope.

hear hear.

captain_spalding said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Will they revive it?

SSSF was shut down by the ABC as part of a convenient show to the government that it could do its bit to stifle expression of opinion.

rofl.

Really…

poikilotherm said:

captain_spalding said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Will they revive it?

SSSF was shut down by the ABC as part of a convenient show to the government that it could do its bit to stifle expression of opinion.

rofl.

Really…

I know he is kidding. I thought the ABC ditched it because the username database got hacked and the ABC didn’t want to take the risk any more.

rumpole said:

poikilotherm said:

captain_spalding said:

SSSF was shut down by the ABC as part of a convenient show to the government that it could do its bit to stifle expression of opinion.

rofl.

Really…

I know he is kidding. I thought the ABC ditched it because the username database got hacked and the ABC didn’t want to take the risk any more.

Rule 303 said:

I miss the idea, but not the reality.

It was very often just a heaving sack of writhing neurotics and destructive arseholes. When the curtain finally fell, it had been years since Dr. Karl had promoted it, it very rarely attracted new members and the few genuine science questions is tackled were heavily bogged down by people letting their personalities, or history of conflict, get in the way.

I regret that it never fulfilled its potential, and I miss some of the contributors, and I’m sad it went the way it did; but honestly, with the moderation it got, it never had a hope.

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

Arts said:

the ABC didn’t want to take the risk any more.

this.

Arts said:

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

this..

rumpole said:

Can you link to some of the other fora you mention ?

if you google ‘sceince fourms’ you’ll get “About 566,000,000 results”

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

the ABC didn’t want to take the risk any more.

this.

I didn’t say that.. that’s what happens when you click on stuff before you have coffee

Arts said:

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

What do you mean by ‘jumped the Shark’ in this context?

Gettin’ a bit tired of you Westralians blaming Sharks….

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

the ABC didn’t want to take the risk any more.

this.

I didn’t say that.. that’s what happens when you click on stuff before you have coffee

goes back to check.. ;)

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

What do you mean by ‘jumped the Shark’ in this context?

Gettin’ a bit tired of you Westralians blaming Sharks….

hear hear.

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

What do you mean by ‘jumped the Shark’ in this context?

Gettin’ a bit tired of you Westralians blaming Sharks….

Jumping the shark

gettin a bit tired of the rest of Aust thinking drums lines were voted for by the public

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

What do you mean by ‘jumped the Shark’ in this context?

Gettin’ a bit tired of you Westralians blaming Sharks….

Jumping the shark

gettin a bit tired of the rest of Aust thinking drums lines were voted for by the public

I don’t think that we do that. Your politicians are all westralians are they not?

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

actually it fulfilled it’s potential then jumped the shark :)

What do you mean by ‘jumped the Shark’ in this context?

Gettin’ a bit tired of you Westralians blaming Sharks….

Jumping the shark

So you mean ‘went downhill’?

I seem to recall some of the worst trolls were already embedded from quite early on.

Arts said:

gettin a bit tired of the rest of Aust thinking drums lines were voted for by the public

A success has a thousand fathers – But a failure is an orphan.

;-)

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Jumping the shark

So you mean ‘went downhill’?

I seem to recall some of the worst trolls were already embedded from quite early on.

Arts said:

gettin a bit tired of the rest of Aust thinking drums lines were voted for by the public

A success has a thousand fathers – But a failure is an orphan.

;-)

they have been a huge success.. many sharks caught an killed.. many more to come..

it goes ahead despite public protest and greanpeece intervention…

“they have been a huge success.. many sharks caught an killed.. many more to come.. “

I wonder how many sharks there are in the ocean ?

They will wait until we get sick of catching them, then they will have their revenge…

The SSSF was a good, immediate forum. You could get intelligent answers quickly. You all know I had trouble with the Gardening Forum a couple of years before they started messing (nicking) with the SSSF. But the format was good and if you learnt to avoid the crappy bits, it was useful and convivial most of the time. Some of the people who have fled to here are people who I don’t engage with on some topics. It’s not that hard to do. And this place does run very smoothly. I suspect the key is that pretty much everyone here has discovered IGNORE mode in their brain. And know how to switch it on.

There are some posters I sort of wish had come across. I don’t know if this forum will die as we die off, or if CB88 may eventually decide not to keep it running. I do resent my ABC destroying a very intelligent and simply formatted information source. But we seem to have sufficient knowledge base here for most things.

There was more contributions to the topics, and less to chat, and from memory there was “Dribbly Bum” and another, was it “Tech Talk”? what we have now is a gynormouse chat forum with scraps of tech stuff, like scraps of scrawny meat in a poor mans stew. Still better than nothing.

buffy said:

The SSSF was a good, immediate forum. You could get intelligent answers quickly. You all know I had trouble with the Gardening Forum a couple of years before they started messing (nicking) with the SSSF. But the format was good and if you learnt to avoid the crappy bits, it was useful and convivial most of the time. Some of the people who have fled to here are people who I don’t engage with on some topics. It’s not that hard to do. And this place does run very smoothly. I suspect the key is that pretty much everyone here has discovered IGNORE mode in their brain. And know how to switch it on.

There are some posters I sort of wish had come across. I don’t know if this forum will die as we die off, or if CB88 may eventually decide not to keep it running. I do resent my ABC destroying a very intelligent and simply formatted information source. But we seem to have sufficient knowledge base here for most things.

I never ignore any poster. Though that this may piss some posters off, is of little consequence.

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:)
I don’t answer them all.

There were a few little tweaks I liked on SSSF like who was on line.
When it died I felt a real sense of loss until I came here & was again amongst my friends.
This isn’t quite as good but its waaay better than nothing.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:)
I don’t answer them all.

You come close though :P

rb – fail…

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:) we know

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:)
I don’t answer them all.

poikilotherm said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:)
I don’t answer them all.

You come close though :P

Nowhere near it.. simply because I participate in chat when I am here means not a lot in the scheme of things.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:)
I don’t answer them all.

That’s me too. Look at them all. Answer some.

Miss some of the posters, Zardos, Zarkov, please feel free to add to this list, and a female poster who used to get a lot of unkind and unnecessary posts, used to have trouble with ants and her dog? or cat?

Anyway, for those interested. I called my local NRMA after the handset died(with a different handset) and got this assurance, that the assessor wasn’t available when the NRMA contacted him and he will be back at work tomorrow but that the assessor isn’t a local and that this could still take some time but that she would get back to me by tomorrow,. The lesson of course is to depend upon your local people to actually be doing something or be lost in the wilderness.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

>>I never ignore any poster. <<

I’d suggest you try to learn to.

:)
I don’t answer them all.

That’s me too. Look at them all. Answer some.

didn’t actually need to answer but it deserves a wink ;)

bob(from black rock) said:

Miss some of the posters, Zardos, Zarkov, please feel free to add to this list, and a female poster who used to get a lot of unkind and unnecessary posts, used to have trouble with ants and her dog? or cat?

and her cloud ants, TV antenna and other miscellaneous IT problems apart from being stuck in UPPERCASE.

i miss it heaps but it was more important to me personalty in a few ways.

This was were i learned to write.
in 1999 i found the site I posted my Amphibious Monkey thread (an idea that was formed after living on the banks of the Fitzroy river for 3 years)
this was the first time i had written any thing in any form since leaving school (and i didn’t do any writing back then)
At the time i would have had the spelling or writing/reading skills of an 8 or 10 year old.
I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.
none of this would have happened if i did not come across this site and have a desire to communicate in the written language.
So to me she was like that school teacher you got on well with and encouraged you to have a go

robadob said:

This was were i learned to write.

:)

I’ve learned lots from participating as well.

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Miss some of the posters, Zardos, Zarkov, please feel free to add to this list, and a female poster who used to get a lot of unkind and unnecessary posts, used to have trouble with ants and her dog? or cat?

and her cloud ants, TV antenna and other miscellaneous IT problems apart from being stuck in UPPERCASE.

.
Vas iz das “cloud ants”?

>>I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.<<

Mr buffy and I salute you. Well done.

:)

buffy said:

>>I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.<<

Mr buffy and I salute you. Well done.

ditto

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

>>I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.<<

Mr buffy and I salute you. Well done.

ditto

+1 mate.

buffy said:

>>I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.<<

Mr buffy and I salute you. Well done.

In fairness there is more than one success story from the site… It certainly was a very vibrant community that encouraged a lot of discussion and debate… but alas, all good things must come to an end…

When I first came here I was a young man full of vitality and life, keen of eye, strong of back and sharp of mind with a kind disposition to my fallow man.
Now I’m just a broken shell curmudgeon looking for trouble at every opportunity and arguing with people at bus shelters.

>>It certainly was a very vibrant community that encouraged a lot of discussion and debate

Bullshit.

diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

>>I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.<<

Mr buffy and I salute you. Well done.

In fairness there is more than one success story from the site… It certainly was a very vibrant community that encouraged a lot of discussion and debate… but alas, all good things must come to an end…

discussion and debate.. ever ending?

Peak Warming Man said:

When I first came here I was a young man full of vitality and life, keen of eye, strong of back and sharp of mind with a kind disposition to my fallow man.
Now I’m just a broken shell curmudgeon looking for trouble at every opportunity and arguing with people at bus shelters.

That’s all because you appear to be a denier. ;)

Peak Warming Man said:

>>It certainly was a very vibrant community that encouraged a lot of discussion and debate

Bullshit.

refs?

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

>>I am now a senior safety adviser doing his advanced dip in OHS.<<

Mr buffy and I salute you. Well done.

In fairness there is more than one success story from the site… It certainly was a very vibrant community that encouraged a lot of discussion and debate… but alas, all good things must come to an end…

discussion and debate.. ever ending?

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

In fairness there is more than one success story from the site… It certainly was a very vibrant community that encouraged a lot of discussion and debate… but alas, all good things must come to an end…

discussion and debate.. ever ending?

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

but you still got my point.

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

discussion and debate.. ever ending?

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

but you still got my point.

If I understood what you were trying to say I wouldn’t have said I didn’t understand…

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

but you still got my point.

If I understood what you were trying to say I wouldn’t have said I didn’t understand…

looks like this will be never ending.. ;)

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

but you still got my point.

If I understood what you were trying to say I wouldn’t have said I didn’t understand…

looks like this will be never ending.. ;)

it would help if your communication style didn’t involve using deliberately vague comments

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

If I understood what you were trying to say I wouldn’t have said I didn’t understand…

looks like this will be never ending.. ;)

it would help if your communication style didn’t involve using deliberately vague comments

would you prefer cloud ants?

seriously though, I’m not deliberately vague. I can observe that my comments may seem obtuse but then I am not in your head.

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

looks like this will be never ending.. ;)

it would help if your communication style didn’t involve using deliberately vague comments

would you prefer cloud ants?

seriously though, I’m not deliberately vague. I can observe that my comments may seem obtuse but then I am not in your head.

dude, what you just said makes no sense at all

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

it would help if your communication style didn’t involve using deliberately vague comments

would you prefer cloud ants?

seriously though, I’m not deliberately vague. I can observe that my comments may seem obtuse but then I am not in your head.

dude, what you just said makes no sense at all

exactly why the only way this conversation could end would be by .. et tu compos mentis non comprende

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

rumpole said:

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

In Firefox.. view menu.. page style = no style

roughbarked said:

rumpole said:

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

In Firefox.. view menu.. page style = no style

Slightly better, thanks. Easier to read but the text entry box is very small

rumpole said:

roughbarked said:

rumpole said:

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

In Firefox.. view menu.. page style = no style

Slightly better, thanks. Easier to read but the text entry box is very small

reload that page. It should change.

roughbarked said:

rumpole said:

roughbarked said:

In Firefox.. view menu.. page style = no style

Slightly better, thanks. Easier to read but the text entry box is very small

reload that page. It should change.

Though you will need to change back to no style for reading .. or it does that in my antiquated firefox.

Peak Warming Man said:

When I first came here I was a young man full of vitality and life, keen of eye, strong of back and sharp of mind with a kind disposition to my fallow man.
Now I’m just a broken shell curmudgeon looking for trouble at every opportunity and arguing with people at bus shelters.

to be fair, that may have happened anyway

Arts said:

Peak Warming Man said:

When I first came here I was a young man full of vitality and life, keen of eye, strong of back and sharp of mind with a kind disposition to my fallow man.
Now I’m just a broken shell curmudgeon looking for trouble at every opportunity and arguing with people at bus shelters.

to be fair, that may have happened anyway

It is clear that life is an experience.

rumpole said:

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

I find it quite easy to read… easier than on white

Justin says: Drone allegedly used in attempt to smuggle drugs into prison

probably that same drone that nicked them from plantations the AFP were observing.

Arts said:

rumpole said:

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

I find it quite easy to read… easier than on white

I’m thankfully, ambivalent

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

rumpole said:

My name is not Diana Fisher, but I don’t like the colours in this forum.

Anything on black is hard to read

Any chance of changing ?

I find it quite easy to read… easier than on white

I’m thankfully, ambivalent

.

White on white aint easy to read.

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

I find it quite easy to read… easier than on white

I’m thankfully, ambivalent

.

White on white aint easy to read.

‘tis if you know how to change the format to color=black

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

I’m thankfully, ambivalent

.

White on white aint easy to read.

‘tis if you know how to change the format to color=black

.

What? black on black, bout as good as white on white.

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

.

White on white aint easy to read.

‘tis if you know how to change the format to color=black

.

What? black on black, bout as good as white on white.

works for most of us here.

I miss the heady days of SSSF… but it was a slow death..

Dropbear said:

I miss the heady days of SSSF… but it was a slow death..

so you knew the end was nigh?

This is the way we used to send not so secret messages.

roughbarked said:

Dropbear said:

I miss the heady days of SSSF… but it was a slow death..

so you knew the end was nigh?

it started heading south at the rate of knots when Cusp and Magic Chicken left.. IMO..

Dropbear said:

I miss the heady days of SSSF… but it was a slow death..

:)

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

Dropbear said:

I miss the heady days of SSSF… but it was a slow death..

so you knew the end was nigh?

it started heading south at the rate of knots when Cusp and Magic Chicken left.. IMO..

.
Remember Magic Chicken, but not Cusp.

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

bob(from black rock) said:

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

so you knew the end was nigh?

it started heading south at the rate of knots when Cusp and Magic Chicken left.. IMO..

.
Remember Magic Chicken, but not Cusp.

Cusp was a professional astronomer from a uni in Sydney.. very smart…

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

well there goes 30 years of modern parenting.

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

or grammar teacher

Dropbear said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

well there goes 30 years of modern parenting.

once they are adults.. and you don’t have a say over their choices any more… sure, friend it up .. hopefully the relationship has been good enough for them to want to be your friend as much as you might want to be theirs.. but when they are children.. you have to choose, IMO.. you are either their best friend or their parent..

just like a forum… you are either the moderator that has to make the (sometimes harsh) decisions, or you are going to be friends and cop any flack when situations occur ..

there’s no boohooing

Arts said:

This is the way we used to send not so secret messages.

ha..

diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

or grammar teacher

bight me dss

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

it is all fair comment.

I remember when there was actually a group who called themselves the internet police.. though their disclaimer suggested that they had no power at all.. it was I suspect, a gag..

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

I beg to differ on that.. at least I think I am.

Arts said:

there’s no boohooing

I’m barlish.

Gets out the Knick Ross doll and sticks another pin in it.
Ahhh, that feels better.

Peak Warming Man said:

Gets out the Knick Ross doll and sticks another pin in it.
Ahhh, that feels better.

barlish frees from all pinning.. ;)

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

not true for every one
my children and I are very good friends
relies on respect

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

I beg to differ on that.. at least I think I am.

it’s hard to be a good parent, and their best friend .. one usually suffers for the other …

(IMO anyway)

As Arts said, once the kids get older, then things change.

and from what I know, she’s a fairly decent parent…..so worth listening to.

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

.
Perhaps that’s why boarding schools were invented?

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

I beg to differ on that.. at least I think I am.

it’s hard to be a good parent, and their best friend .. one usually suffers for the other …

(IMO anyway)

As Arts said, once the kids get older, then things change.

I have been made aware, yeah.

bob(from black rock) said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

.
Perhaps that’s why boarding schools were invented?

happenstance, tutors cannot be omnipresent.

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

I beg to differ on that.. at least I think I am.

it’s hard to be a good parent, and their best friend .. one usually suffers for the other …

(IMO anyway)

As Arts said, once the kids get older, then things change.

then you can become their grammar teacher…

“ once the kids get older, then things change.”

exactly. as a parent you don’t change much (WRT how you see and respond to the world) You are a parent as an adult.. they are children who change.. you have to be one thing.. then you can change the relationship as they get older and mature.

I’m not saying you have to be all discipline and then all friend… but there is a certain ratio based on ‘their’ age and maturity levels.

I feel lik I am friends with my kids, in that they come and talk to me about things that bother, interest and/or confuse them. But they also know that there are boundaries that they might not like now, but will benefit them in the future to make smarter choices.

I hope that when they are teenagers I have given them the right tools now.. to make their own smarter choices, and that they’ll still choose to talk to me about their stuff..
I don’t treat them like little children, but I understand that there are concepts they don’t understand now.. because they are not equipped with the life experiences to deal with them.

but if parenting worked the same for everyone, there wouldn’t be as many books about how to do it.

diddly-squat said:

Dropbear said:

roughbarked said:

I beg to differ on that.. at least I think I am.

it’s hard to be a good parent, and their best friend .. one usually suffers for the other …

(IMO anyway)

As Arts said, once the kids get older, then things change.

then you can become their grammar teacher…

you leave my grammar out of it .. rest her soul.

Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

Dropbear said:

it’s hard to be a good parent, and their best friend .. one usually suffers for the other …

(IMO anyway)

As Arts said, once the kids get older, then things change.

then you can become their grammar teacher…

you leave my grammar out of it .. rest her soul.

yo grammar…

diddly-squat said:

Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

then you can become their grammar teacher…

you leave my grammar out of it .. rest her soul.

yo grammar…

note: my post count during this exchange didn’t alter, until I said this.

>…..as a parent you don’t change much (WRT how you see and respond to the world).

Does this include the (addition of) kid/s being part of ‘the world’.

transition said:

>…..as a parent you don’t change much (WRT how you see and respond to the world).

Does this include the (addition of) kid/s being part of ‘the world’.

do you mean from a non parent to a parent? there is usually a shift in perspective change there.. but as a parent not much (unless some other major catastrophic event happens)

Arts said:

transition said:

>…..as a parent you don’t change much (WRT how you see and respond to the world).

Does this include the (addition of) kid/s being part of ‘the world’.

do you mean from a non parent to a parent? there is usually a shift in perspective change there.. but as a parent not much (unless some other major catastrophic event happens)

The latter is true more often these days.

>do you mean from a non parent to a parent? there is usually a shift in perspective change there.. but as a parent not much (unless some other major catastrophic event happens).

You are speaking of ‘parenting’ changes I gather.

I’d think children coming into ones world changes ones world, so perspective is changed (priorities change).

Not sure about this problem with being a friend of offspring and it getting in the way of parenting (optimal parenting). If you say ‘best friend’ that changes or distorts the proposition somewhat IMO.

Yeah. Best friend is what I said originally. I don’t think you can be best friends and an effective parent with your children.

transition said:

>do you mean from a non parent to a parent? there is usually a shift in perspective change there.. but as a parent not much (unless some other major catastrophic event happens).

You are speaking of ‘parenting’ changes I gather.

I’d think children coming into ones world changes ones world, so perspective is changed (priorities change).

Not sure about this problem with being a friend of offspring and it getting in the way of parenting (optimal parenting). If you say ‘best friend’ that changes or distorts the proposition somewhat IMO.

of its nature a friendship normally grows. Though on occasion it may wither and die.

transition said:

>do you mean from a non parent to a parent? there is usually a shift in perspective change there.. but as a parent not much (unless some other major catastrophic event happens).

You are speaking of ‘parenting’ changes I gather.

I’d think children coming into ones world changes ones world, so perspective is changed (priorities change).

Not sure about this problem with being a friend of offspring and it getting in the way of parenting (optimal parenting). If you say ‘best friend’ that changes or distorts the proposition somewhat IMO.

agreed

Arts said:

Arts said:

any forum that was going to be run and moderated by a member was not going to work. cb88 seems to pretty much keep out of this one and allows us to self moderate
when Bernie was posting as well as moderating it almost drove her nuts.

like police and school prefects you can’t be part of a social group and fair at the same time… there will always be some bias and if not actual bias the accusation of.

just like you can’t be your kids best friend…

Original quote.

You can’t be their best friend as well as their best parent
The two relationships are different in their very nature.

Although – I accept that the parent child relationship changes as they get older.

>You can’t be their best friend as well as their best parent
The two relationships are different in their very nature.

It’s probably a bit of useless distinction in my opinion, but many people would agree with the statement, and they in thinking it useful may get some use from it for their purposes.

I mean you have ‘best’ in there twice, whatever they mean.

transition said:

>You can’t be their best friend as well as their best parent
The two relationships are different in their very nature.

It’s probably a bit of useless distinction in my opinion, but many people would agree with the statement, and they in thinking it useful may get some use from it for their purposes.

I mean you have ‘best’ in there twice, whatever they mean.

Good, better, best, never let it rest, until the good is better and the better best. Thanks Mum and Dad.

>Good, better, best, never let it rest, until the good is better and the better best. Thanks Mum and Dad.

neat ideological trojan

transition said:

I mean you have ‘best’ in there twice, whatever they mean.

well, it’s as much a competition for the parents to be the favourite as the children..

;)

“Best” makes a neat introduction to relative perspectives, comparison and contrast wandering all over the place (the social field, of minds and relationships with others). There’s no rest in it.

I prefer this place

It has the original template/ colour scheme

It has less of the arseholes that used to plague the other place

Apart from witty and dropbear being mouthy towards to me and getting my robust response

wookiemeister said:

Apart from witty and dropbear being mouthy towards to me and getting my robust response

That’s what yo momma said!

Dropbear said:

and from what I know, she’s a fairly decent parent…..so worth listening to.

Until she can get a decent price for them

From memory. I had several lengthy periods leading up to the shift of SSSF to the new forum.

I had and am a member of several forums with the format similar to the newer format of SSSF which has since become defunct.

Interestingly I have little issue with the other forums but disliked the newer format in place of the old SSSF personally speaking.

As a consequence my interests waned a little due to the newer format and life commitments at that time contributed certainly. My course was not related to the science sector and therefore my thoughts were elsewhere plus life /commitments have and remain to be a dominant feature in life currently.

I have drifted away from science quite a bit in recent times but….. seem to be reigniting an interest once again and hence participation within this forum and net research for subjects of interest and even a recent refresher physics question that got the grey matter revising previously discussed subject on the older SSSF (abc)

Shrug.

Life is full of change. Part of progress is embracing change when required.