Date: 13/03/2014 17:42:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502943
Subject: MH370 carrying gold bullion
heres a conspiracy theory
lets say MH370 was carrying gold bullion
the pilots being in on it switch off the transponder and other things they could access then fly the aircraft way off course to land somewhere where the gold can be shifted
the aircraft needs to remain hidden as long as possible so that the gang can abscond with the loot
if they find the aircraft quickly they find the gang quickly so every day that goes by leaves the trail colder and colder
Date: 13/03/2014 17:44:06
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 502944
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
What happens to the passengers in this scenario?
Date: 13/03/2014 17:49:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 502948
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Loading it up with bullion at Kuala Lumpur International Airport might have attracted some attention.
Date: 13/03/2014 17:52:22
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502949
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Witty Rejoinder said:
What happens to the passengers in this scenario?
if they kill the passengers it will be worse for the gang , they’ll have every man and his dog after them – when they catch them it won’t be pretty.
if I were gang I would leave passenger alone, remover the gold and try to leave it as long as possible before calling off the guards and let them make their escape in pairs with sat phones in case they get into trouble.
lets say it would take a week or so to escape properly leaving no trace they could ultimately follow, the pirates then radio their fellow crew and tell them to escape, leave the passengers food and water and shoot off on a speed boat to some other location where they could blend into.
the pirates then tell the media where to find the plane
(or they could ransom them I suppose by on selling them to professional kidnappers)
Date: 13/03/2014 17:53:12
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502950
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Bubblecar said:
Loading it up with bullion at Kuala Lumpur International Airport might have attracted some attention.
or not
in this situation less attention would be vital
there could be some important/ valuable cargo the pirates needed
Date: 13/03/2014 17:57:03
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 502951
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I have my own theory about the disappearance of Flight MH370.
I believe that the producers of Aircrash Investigations have run out of air crashes to document so they sabotaged this flight so they can make a start on series 14 of ACI.
Date: 13/03/2014 18:01:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502952
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Skeptic Pete said:
I have my own theory about the disappearance of Flight MH370.
I believe that the producers of Aircrash Investigations have run out of air crashes to document so they sabotaged this flight so they can make a start on series 14 of ACI.
aircrash investigations mafia
Date: 13/03/2014 18:06:32
From: furious
ID: 502953
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Don’t you understand yet? There was no plane…
Date: 13/03/2014 18:08:53
From: Obviousman
ID: 502954
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
cough cough BULLSHIT cough cough
Date: 13/03/2014 18:13:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 502957
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Obviousman said:
cough cough BULLSHIT cough cough
You been smoking cow dung?
Date: 13/03/2014 18:37:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502960
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
furious said:
Don’t you understand yet? There was no plane…
Malaysian airlines is a figment of the imagination
Date: 13/03/2014 18:38:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502961
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Bubblecar said:
Obviousman said:
cough cough BULLSHIT cough cough
You been smoking cow dung?
if you dry it, flavour it, roll it
it still smells like cow dung
Date: 13/03/2014 18:42:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 502966
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
heres a conspiracy theory
lets say MH370 was carrying gold bullion
the pilots being in on it switch off the transponder and other things they could access then fly the aircraft way off course to land somewhere where the gold can be shifted
the aircraft needs to remain hidden as long as possible so that the gang can abscond with the loot
if they find the aircraft quickly they find the gang quickly so every day that goes by leaves the trail colder and colder
Here is another theory
The plane was hijacked
they want lots of money for each passenger
Date: 13/03/2014 18:43:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502968
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
CrazyNeutrino said:
wookiemeister said:
heres a conspiracy theory
lets say MH370 was carrying gold bullion
the pilots being in on it switch off the transponder and other things they could access then fly the aircraft way off course to land somewhere where the gold can be shifted
the aircraft needs to remain hidden as long as possible so that the gang can abscond with the loot
if they find the aircraft quickly they find the gang quickly so every day that goes by leaves the trail colder and colder
Here is another theory
The plane was hijacked
they want lots of money for each passenger
yeah I mentioned that
Date: 13/03/2014 18:44:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502969
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
unless………..
someone wants a 777 for spares
or an aircraft (like north korea). you are nicking the aircraft
Date: 13/03/2014 18:48:30
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 502974
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
wookiemeister said:
heres a conspiracy theory
lets say MH370 was carrying gold bullion
the pilots being in on it switch off the transponder and other things they could access then fly the aircraft way off course to land somewhere where the gold can be shifted
the aircraft needs to remain hidden as long as possible so that the gang can abscond with the loot
if they find the aircraft quickly they find the gang quickly so every day that goes by leaves the trail colder and colder
Here is another theory
The plane was hijacked
they want lots of money for each passenger
yeah I mentioned that
ok, I have another one
the plane was carrying “secret cargo”
Date: 13/03/2014 18:53:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 502981
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
CrazyNeutrino said:
wookiemeister said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
Here is another theory
The plane was hijacked
they want lots of money for each passenger
yeah I mentioned that
ok, I have another one
the plane was carrying “secret cargo”
that’s a given
Date: 13/03/2014 18:56:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 502986
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
wookiemeister said:
yeah I mentioned that
ok, I have another one
the plane was carrying “secret cargo”
that’s a given
An Alien?
/Maxwell Smart
Ok, how about two illegal aliens.
/Maxwell Smart
Date: 13/03/2014 19:01:13
From: Dropbear
ID: 502993
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Tricking that oil rig worker, tens of Kms away into thinking your plane was on fire was a stroke of genius
Date: 13/03/2014 19:33:19
From: furious
ID: 503038
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
- Malaysian airlines is a figment of the imagination
Well think about it, who says the plane is missing? The same people giving out contradictory and unhelpful information…
Classic sleight of hand. Wonder what they are really up to?
Date: 13/03/2014 19:46:05
From: Soso
ID: 503052
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
The old secret hidden bullion plane trick….
Date: 13/03/2014 19:50:47
From: Arts
ID: 503055
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
any gold bullion would have to be boogie board sized..
Date: 14/03/2014 07:54:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 503242
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Skeptic Pete said:
I believe that the producers of Aircrash Investigations have run out of air crashes to document so they sabotaged this flight so they can make a start on series 14 of ACI.
I find it really horrifying that the haven’t run out of air crashes to document. The last one I saw was where the pilots had forgotten to pressurise the plane so everyone died from lack of oxygen – except for a steward who didn’t know how to fly.
If the pilots had had a backwards view of the cabin from closed circuit TV, they would have seen the oxygen masks drop down in the cabin and nobody would have died. So simple.
Date: 14/03/2014 08:14:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 503250
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
heres a conspiracy theory
lets say MH370 was carrying gold bullion
the pilots being in on it switch off the transponder and other things they could access then fly the aircraft way off course to land somewhere where the gold can be shifted
the aircraft needs to remain hidden as long as possible so that the gang can abscond with the loot
if they find the aircraft quickly they find the gang quickly so every day that goes by leaves the trail colder and colder
My Dad kinda thought about doing something like that in the 70’s when he was flying Fokker Friendships. He had to carry thirty million dollars of silver from somewhere to somewhere in Australia. The only passengers were a couple of armed guards down the back.
It’d be possible to turn the cabin air source off so the guards would flake out, the crew have portable oxygen cylinders so it’d be easy to pop a mask on to go back and tie them up securely.
The trick is getting the other crew member to join you in your adventurous deed.
Date: 14/03/2014 08:16:11
From: poikilotherm
ID: 503251
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Date: 14/03/2014 08:21:30
From: Michael V
ID: 503253
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
What is the flashing message on that?
Date: 14/03/2014 08:27:54
From: poikilotherm
ID: 503256
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Michael V said:
What is the flashing message on that?
Ocean is big, plane is small = hard to find. Just realised I landed in the wrong thread.
Date: 14/03/2014 08:44:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 503262
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
What is the flashing message on that?
Ocean is big, plane is small = hard to find. Just realised I landed in the wrong thread.
Actually, it says; Start again.
Date: 14/03/2014 08:47:23
From: poikilotherm
ID: 503264
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Oh, didn’t see that earlier.
Date: 14/03/2014 08:52:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 503266
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
poikilotherm said:
Oh, didn’t see that earlier.
took me a bit of concentration to spot it.
Date: 15/03/2014 23:26:48
From: Arts
ID: 504146
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
Date: 15/03/2014 23:28:11
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504149
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Arts said:
so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
ahhh welcome back to wookie world
not so crazy after all
was I?
Date: 15/03/2014 23:28:58
From: furious
ID: 504151
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
- so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
Maybe those that need to hear the demands have already heard them?
Date: 15/03/2014 23:29:41
From: party_pants
ID: 504153
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Arts said:
so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
I think it still crashed. Ran out of fuel trying to get wherever.
Date: 15/03/2014 23:29:44
From: Arts
ID: 504154
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
Arts said:
so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
ahhh welcome back to wookie world
not so crazy after all
was I?
no.. you are still crazy :P
Date: 15/03/2014 23:33:09
From: Arts
ID: 504155
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
furious said:
- so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
Maybe those that need to hear the demands have already heard them?
I’d like to know what they are.
Old fashioned hijackings had almost immediate contact with control.. permissions to land.. hours on the runway.. etc…
July 23, 1968: To date, the only successful El Al hijacking attempt, as three members of Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) hijacked El Al Flight 426 from Rome to Tel Aviv. Diverting to Algiers, the negotiations extended over forty days. Both the hijackers and the hostages went free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings
Date: 15/03/2014 23:35:36
From: furious
ID: 504157
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
- I’d like to know what they are.
As would we all but it might be unnecessary to anyone’s goals for the populace to know…
Date: 15/03/2014 23:49:23
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504161
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Arts said:
wookiemeister said:
Arts said:
so.. if this plane is hijacked… when will we hear demands? surely a hijacking means someone wants something
ahhh welcome back to wookie world
not so crazy after all
was I?
no.. you are still crazy :P
whaaaaaa?
Date: 16/03/2014 00:26:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504183
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
as I’ve mentioned before in chat
they should return to the scene of the crime – the airport and see if the engineering crew knew anything about all of this
Date: 16/03/2014 08:05:48
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504191
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Were you ever on board that plane Wookie?
Date: 16/03/2014 09:47:13
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504200
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Looks as if I was right all along
Date: 16/03/2014 10:15:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 504204
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
Looks as if I was right all along
about what?
Date: 16/03/2014 13:43:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504246
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Date: 16/03/2014 14:30:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 504255
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
So someone hi-jacked this plane and set course for Australia?
Who’s going to stop the planes?
Date: 16/03/2014 14:38:16
From: buffy
ID: 504256
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Date: 16/03/2014 15:02:00
From: transition
ID: 504258
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
The new #error, if it’s that, will be stealthy silent (re cause and association) I am guessing, and the events will reflect this.
At this point I don’t think gone-loopy-pilot has been ruled out. What does appear to be the case is slack pilot security, which would invite trouble. Personally I think it time to step up security on airlines, minimum of two armed security persons on all flights with special forces training.
Date: 16/03/2014 15:14:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504261
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I suspected something amiss early on
the plane has been stolen
pirates
Date: 16/03/2014 15:16:54
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504262
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
the aircraft might have followed some existing flight corridor so not to arouse suspicion and then used a different call sign as it flew into another country
the other ATC might not know that it had rebadged itself as another airline
they’ll have to trawl through all the flight records of elsewhere now
Date: 16/03/2014 15:17:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504263
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
someone knew the engines would only ping not communicate
Date: 16/03/2014 15:19:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504264
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
not so long ago I also raised the problem about how passports could be used illegally to pass through airports
my solution was PIN numbers to stop the wrong people using the stolen passport
no PIN number and the passport can’t be accepted so it won’t matter if its reported missing or not
Date: 16/03/2014 15:22:21
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504265
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
the other possibility is that flight mh370 changed one more time beyond the notice of the military and flew somewhere else like Vietnam or some smaller country with less airborne security and rebadged itself as another airline
Date: 16/03/2014 15:25:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 504266
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
the other possibility is that flight mh370 changed one more time beyond the notice of the military and flew somewhere else like Vietnam or some smaller country with less airborne security and rebadged itself as another airline
Not sure that one can just make up a new call sign.
Date: 16/03/2014 15:40:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504267
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
the other possibility is that flight mh370 changed one more time beyond the notice of the military and flew somewhere else like Vietnam or some smaller country with less airborne security and rebadged itself as another airline
Not sure that one can just make up a new call sign.
I don’t think they track the flight internationally in some locations
my hopes are that the flight headed back to land and is sat on a runway somewhere and all the passengers are fine (in a positive spin of what the possible outcome could be – I hope all of those passengers are fine I really do).
this scenario would be better than a crash where there are NO hopes for survival
Date: 16/03/2014 15:41:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504268
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
if a gang hijacked the aircraft they should call a newspaper now to announce the location of the aircraft
Date: 16/03/2014 15:52:46
From: party_pants
ID: 504269
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Gees you dribble some shit at times. You should get a job on the Ch 10 commentary team filling in before the grand prix starts.
Date: 16/03/2014 16:31:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504275
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
party_pants said:
Gees you dribble some shit at times. You should get a job on the Ch 10 commentary team filling in before the grand prix starts.
thanks for all your support party pants
Date: 16/03/2014 16:33:30
From: party_pants
ID: 504276
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
party_pants said:
Gees you dribble some shit at times. You should get a job on the Ch 10 commentary team filling in before the grand prix starts.
thanks for all your support party pants
My name is Kevin, and I’m here to help.
Date: 16/03/2014 16:51:22
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504277
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I think airlines should develop new passports
like those bank cards with inbuilt chips
and fingerprint id’s
and obviously now they need tamperproof communications systems
Date: 16/03/2014 16:52:28
From: party_pants
ID: 504278
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I think they should make the transponders and comms boxes so they can’t be turned off in mid-flight.
Date: 16/03/2014 16:54:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 504279
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
the other possibility is that flight mh370 changed one more time beyond the notice of the military and flew somewhere else like Vietnam or some smaller country with less airborne security and rebadged itself as another airline
Not sure that one can just make up a new call sign.
I do know that, on some occasions when they crossed the Atlantic, B-52s would set themselves up to respond as commercial aircraft, usually 747s – it let the controllers manage them, but kept down the ‘leaked’ info about their movements. To the radars, one Boeing product looked much like the other.
Date: 16/03/2014 17:16:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504286
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
party_pants said:
I think they should make the transponders and comms boxes so they can’t be turned off in mid-flight.
you’d wonder why the pilot would have so much control over this device
perhaps if they want to turn it off for whatever reason they need a PIN number that ATC would/could give them
Date: 16/03/2014 17:31:48
From: Jing Joh
ID: 504292
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
transition said:
….. minimum of two armed security persons on all flights with special forces training.
….and what’s to stop one or both of the air marshalls being crooked and how would they protect against a batty pilot?
Date: 16/03/2014 17:39:27
From: Dropbear
ID: 504293
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Jing Joh said:
transition said:….. minimum of two armed security persons on all flights with special forces training.
….and what’s to stop one or both of the air marshalls being crooked and how would they protect against a batty pilot?
Maybe just psych test your pilots once a year.
Date: 16/03/2014 17:54:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 504294
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Dropbear said:
Maybe just psych test your pilots once a year.
Well, if you won’t let nutcases fly, that’d be the end of modern commercial aviation right there.
Date: 16/03/2014 17:56:46
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504296
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
How the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet Could Have Been Hijacked
In the hours after Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 vanished, the notion that hijackers were responsible seemed far-fetched. Since the 9/11 attacks, commercial pilots have been trained to prevent the weaponization of their planes by never unlocking their cockpit doors for hijackers–even if the lives of passengers are being threatened. Even if the MH370 captain or first officer broke with official policy and opened the door, why wouldn’t one of them first use the jet’s transponder to squawk “7500,” the universal code for a hijacking in progress?
more…
Date: 16/03/2014 18:00:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504298
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Date: 16/03/2014 18:27:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504303
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I really think its time for airlines to rethink the security of their aircraft communications
an interesting article here
Malaysia 370 Update: Landing Strips, Cell Phones, and More
Date: 16/03/2014 18:27:57
From: Dropbear
ID: 504304
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
Dropbear said:
Maybe just psych test your pilots once a year.
Well, if you won’t let nutcases fly, that’d be the end of modern commercial aviation right there.
Well they let Bill fl……. Um good point
Date: 16/03/2014 18:43:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504309
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
What happened to the missing plane’s transponder?
As the search continues for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight, a key unanswered question is what happened to the Boeing 777’s transponder.
Transponders emit electronic signals containing information that shows up on air traffic controllers’ screens. The information includes the plane’s unique identifying code and its direction, speed and altitude
more…
Date: 16/03/2014 18:46:18
From: buffy
ID: 504311
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Hey Alex, if you are on the advisory board for a company and you recommend their product to your patients, you should disclose. And in a way they understand. I’ve got that right, haven’t I? I had a look at the code of ethics and the medical board guidelines.
Date: 16/03/2014 18:46:37
From: buffy
ID: 504312
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Sorry, I’ll just move that.
Date: 16/03/2014 18:55:07
From: Jing Joh
ID: 504316
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Nothing so far has convinced me that the plane didn’t suffer a catastrophic failure near the point where it originally lost contact. All of the signals after that point have possible alternate explanations.
Date: 16/03/2014 18:58:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504317
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
A look at the types of signals a plane gives off
and apart from transponders, ACARS and Boeing’s OPERATING DATA SENT VIA SATELLITE, It looks like Rolls Royce also sends its data as well
if the air maintenance industry is looking for new contracts
why not look at redesigning tamper proof communication systems here in Australia say for the southern hemisphere
they might what to fit in additional tamper proof GPS trackers as well
Date: 16/03/2014 19:03:04
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504318
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
CrazyNeutrino said:
A look at the types of signals a plane gives off
and apart from transponders, ACARS and Boeing’s OPERATING DATA SENT VIA SATELLITE, It looks like Rolls Royce also sends its data as well
if the air maintenance industry is looking for new contracts
why not look at redesigning tamper proof communication systems here in Australia say for the southern hemisphere
they might what to fit in additional tamper proof GPS trackers as well
It doesn’t give me much confidence flying knowing that hijackers can just turn a knob in the cockpit to turn off transponders and other stuff
Date: 16/03/2014 19:04:59
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 504323
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Dropbear said:
captain_spalding said:
Dropbear said:
Maybe just psych test your pilots once a year.
Well, if you won’t let nutcases fly, that’d be the end of modern commercial aviation right there.
Well they let Bill fl……. Um good point
Yeah I was always worried they bring in testing!
Date: 16/03/2014 19:12:09
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 504333
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I could come up with more ideas,
but Im only on a disability pension
Im not just a pretty face
looks in mirror, forget that last bit
Date: 16/03/2014 20:18:35
From: Soso
ID: 504375
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
CrazyNeutrino said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
A look at the types of signals a plane gives off
and apart from transponders, ACARS and Boeing’s OPERATING DATA SENT VIA SATELLITE, It looks like Rolls Royce also sends its data as well
if the air maintenance industry is looking for new contracts
why not look at redesigning tamper proof communication systems here in Australia say for the southern hemisphere
they might what to fit in additional tamper proof GPS trackers as well
It doesn’t give me much confidence flying knowing that hijackers can just turn a knob in the cockpit to turn off transponders and other stuff
Yes, I wonder why this would need to be at the pilot’s discretion.
Date: 16/03/2014 20:19:41
From: Lord_Lucan
ID: 504376
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
The chaps who do these sort of things deserve to be punished, I mean it’s deliberate, in cold blood, not as if they have done it in a fit of hot blooded rage or the like.
These chaps are a menace.
Date: 16/03/2014 20:20:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 504377
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Soso said:
Yes, I wonder why this would need to be at the pilot’s discretion.
Because of Murphy’s Law, which, in this case would be ‘that the one piece of electronic equipment to which you can’t sever the power is the one that catches fire’.
Date: 16/03/2014 20:21:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 504378
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Lord_Lucan said:
The chaps who do these sort of things deserve to be punished, I mean it’s deliberate, in cold blood, not as if they have done it in a fit of hot blooded rage or the like.
These chaps are a menace.
Probably working -class.
Date: 16/03/2014 20:23:08
From: Dropbear
ID: 504380
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
Lord_Lucan said:
The chaps who do these sort of things deserve to be punished, I mean it’s deliberate, in cold blood, not as if they have done it in a fit of hot blooded rage or the like.
These chaps are a menace.
Probably working -class.
Chuckle
Date: 16/03/2014 20:24:41
From: Dropbear
ID: 504381
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Jing Joh said:
Nothing so far has convinced me that the plane didn’t suffer a catastrophic failure near the point where it originally lost contact. All of the signals after that point have possible alternate explanations.
No wreckage
Date: 16/03/2014 20:25:44
From: Lord_Lucan
ID: 504384
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
Lord_Lucan said:
The chaps who do these sort of things deserve to be punished, I mean it’s deliberate, in cold blood, not as if they have done it in a fit of hot blooded rage or the like.
These chaps are a menace.
Probably working -class.
Indubitably.
Date: 16/03/2014 20:26:55
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504385
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
someone knows where it is
maybe Osama bin laden is being held hostage on a desert island somewhere and they mounted a rescue mission ?
that’s funny I can hear the sound of helicopters outside
my goodness they are black helicopters
and , wait a minute fjk.fkgsdfklhhjyj
Date: 16/03/2014 20:51:57
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504396
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
it might be that the pilots might be involved as much as we might think
if hijackers have their own GPS they would be able to know if the pilots are following their instructions
Date: 16/03/2014 21:14:39
From: Soso
ID: 504407
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
Soso said:
Yes, I wonder why this would need to be at the pilot’s discretion.
Because of Murphy’s Law, which, in this case would be ‘that the one piece of electronic equipment to which you can’t sever the power is the one that catches fire’.
Well fair enough… I suppose.
Date: 16/03/2014 21:16:35
From: wookiemeister
ID: 504409
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
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Date: 16/03/2014 21:39:39
From: Michael V
ID: 504417
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
Soso said:
Yes, I wonder why this would need to be at the pilot’s discretion.
Because of Murphy’s Law, which, in this case would be ‘that the one piece of electronic equipment to which you can’t sever the power is the one that catches fire’.
This.
Date: 19/03/2014 18:48:02
From: Stealth
ID: 505685
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Lord_Lucan said:
The chaps who do these sort of things deserve to be punished, I mean it’s deliberate, in cold blood, not as if they have done it in a fit of hot blooded rage or the like.
These chaps are a menace.
Well there was at least one WA fly in/fly out guy on that plane, and we all know how pissed they can get and then the trouble they can cause…
Date: 19/03/2014 20:35:03
From: Skunkworks
ID: 505730
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Well this mystery is certainly kicking along. And I think the conspiracy pages have reached a peak mass whereby any official finding will be shot down by truthers.
Date: 19/03/2014 20:39:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 505732
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
>MH370 shot down by truthers
Hmm, that’s a new twist.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:35:41
From: Kingy
ID: 511991
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I heard a new one today.
It was carrying a cargo so “special” that the co-pilot thought that it was better to kill everyone on it, and for it to be lost at sea forever.
I gotta admit, if he didn’t realise that the engines were pinging the satellite, he would have done a damn good job of it.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:39:56
From: Boris
ID: 511992
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
The SOFIA aircraftSOFIA
SOFIA during flight
Other name(s) Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy
Type B747SP-21
Manufacturer NASA/DLR
Construction number 21441/306
Registration N747NA
Owners and operators NASA
The SOFIA aircraft is a modified Boeing 747SP widebody (serial number 21441, line number 306; registration N747NA; callsign NASA747) with a distinguished history.
Boeing developed the SP or “Special Performance” version of the 747 for ultra long range flights, modifying the design of the 747-100 by removing sections of the fuselage and heavily modifying others to reduce weight, thus allowing the 747SP to fly higher, faster and farther non-stop than any other 747 model of the time…
higher would be the reason. SOFIA is an infrared telescope so the less atmosphere the better.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:40:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 511993
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
I was surprised to see the families of the Chinese passengers waving a big banner that said ‘You must return relatives’ and ‘Hand us the murderer’.
Like they think the Malaysians jus t have them hidden away in a shed out the back somewhere.
Here’s my idea for a banner:
‘Just because you’re Chinese and have a few dollars doesn’t mean you’re not both arrogant and stupid”.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:43:11
From: party_pants
ID: 511996
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
I was surprised to see the families of the Chinese passengers waving a big banner that said ‘You must return relatives’ and ‘Hand us the murderer’.
Like they think the Malaysians jus t have them hidden away in a shed out the back somewhere.
Here’s my idea for a banner:
‘Just because you’re Chinese and have a few dollars doesn’t mean you’re not both arrogant and stupid”.
I don’t understand the anger directed at Malaysia. WTF else are they supposed to have done. The Chinese families and relatives must be getting fed a whole heap of bullshit from their own government and media.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:43:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 511997
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
I was surprised to see the families of the Chinese passengers waving a big banner that said ‘You must return relatives’ and ‘Hand us the murderer’.
Like they think the Malaysians jus t have them hidden away in a shed out the back somewhere.
Here’s my idea for a banner:
‘Just because you’re Chinese and have a few dollars doesn’t mean you’re not both arrogant and stupid”.
It comes from not being able to trust those in government. The Chinese family members know their government would lie to them if it saw fit so they are chasing after the Malaysians for the same reason.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:43:47
From: Skunkworks
ID: 511998
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Kingy said:
I heard a new one today.
It was carrying a cargo so “special” that the co-pilot thought that it was better to kill everyone on it, and for it to be lost at sea forever.
I gotta admit, if he didn’t realise that the engines were pinging the satellite, he would have done a damn good job of it.
I have been reading the stuff in Above Top Secret. The conspironauts are having a field day. Anything they say may be true in an infinite universe but many appear to be indulging in straight fantasy and getting into arguments why their fantasy is more correct than others.
Its great.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:43:47
From: transition
ID: 511999
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
>Like they think the Malaysians jus t have them hidden away in a shed out the back somewhere.
I think what you’re saying, sort of from a flipside perspective, is that the relatives have some legitimate business with the airline etc, but media and its audience don’t.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:44:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 512000
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
party_pants said:
I don’t understand the anger directed at Malaysia. WTF else are they supposed to have done. The Chinese families and relatives must be getting fed a whole heap of bullshit from their own government and media.
Yeah, let’s see ‘em get snouty like that with their own govt back in Beijing. It’d be T-54 time all over again.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:44:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 512001
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
party_pants said:
I don’t understand the anger directed at Malaysia. WTF else are they supposed to have done. The Chinese families and relatives must be getting fed a whole heap of bullshit from their own government and media.
Yeah, let’s see ‘em get snouty like that with their own govt back in Beijing. It’d be T-54 time all over again.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:47:07
From: party_pants
ID: 512003
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Kingy said:
I heard a new one today.
It was carrying a cargo so “special” that the co-pilot thought that it was better to kill everyone on it, and for it to be lost at sea forever.
I gotta admit, if he didn’t realise that the engines were pinging the satellite, he would have done a damn good job of it.
hard to imagine what that could have been.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:48:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 512004
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
transition said:
>Like they think the Malaysians jus t have them hidden away in a shed out the back somewhere.
I think what you’re saying, sort of from a flipside perspective, is that the relatives have some legitimate business with the airline etc, but media and its audience don’t.
I really don’t know what it is about my remarks (snide, sarcastic, offensive and puerile as they may be) which prompts you to both read so very much into them, and to misinterpret them to such an extent.
What i was saying was that anyone who thinks waving a banner like that around wil somehow magically undo the crash of an aircraft into the ocean, and thus return to them their relatives (dead or alive) is a complete imbecile.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:48:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 512005
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
Did anyone spot this?
Meanwhile, the Malaysian opposition leader has revealed he has previously met the pilot of flight MH370, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, as he was a member of his party.
Anwar Ibrahim told the ABC he met Captain Zaharie on a number of occasions and discussed democratic transparency and reform with him.
There are unconfirmed reports the pilot was in the court when Mr Anwar was sentenced to five years in jail for sodomy, just six hours before the plane departed.
But the opposition leader says that is no reason for him to hijack a plane, and he believes the pilot is innocent of any wrongdoing.
from
Malaysia Airlines MH370 search: Australian Orion aircraft spots four orange objects, described as ‘most promising lead’
Date: 31/03/2014 23:49:52
From: party_pants
ID: 512007
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
captain_spalding said:
transition said:
>Like they think the Malaysians jus t have them hidden away in a shed out the back somewhere.
I think what you’re saying, sort of from a flipside perspective, is that the relatives have some legitimate business with the airline etc, but media and its audience don’t.
I really don’t know what it is about my remarks (snide, sarcastic, offensive and puerile as they may be) which prompts you to both read so very much into them, and to misinterpret them to such an extent.
What i was saying was that anyone who thinks waving a banner like that around wil somehow magically undo the crash of an aircraft into the ocean, and thus return to them their relatives (dead or alive) is a complete imbecile.
I’d go along with that…
Date: 31/03/2014 23:50:47
From: transition
ID: 512009
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
>I really don’t know what it is about my remarks (snide, sarcastic, offensive and puerile as they may be) which prompts you to both read so very much into them, and to misinterpret them to such an extent.
What i was saying was that anyone who thinks waving a banner like that around wil somehow magically undo the crash of an aircraft into the ocean, and thus return to them their relatives (dead or alive) is a complete imbecile”
I think what you’re saying, sort of from a flipside perspective, is that the relatives have some legitimate business with the airline etc, but media and its audience don’t.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:52:30
From: party_pants
ID: 512010
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
CrazyNeutrino said:
Did anyone spot this?
Meanwhile, the Malaysian opposition leader has revealed he has previously met the pilot of flight MH370, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, as he was a member of his party.
Anwar Ibrahim told the ABC he met Captain Zaharie on a number of occasions and discussed democratic transparency and reform with him.
There are unconfirmed reports the pilot was in the court when Mr Anwar was sentenced to five years in jail for sodomy, just six hours before the plane departed.
But the opposition leader says that is no reason for him to hijack a plane, and he believes the pilot is innocent of any wrongdoing.
from
Malaysia Airlines MH370 search: Australian Orion aircraft spots four orange objects, described as ‘most promising lead’
I heard it on ABC radio this morning. Doesn’t seem like someone who is motivated towards democracy, openness and less corruption would resort to acts of terrorism to further such an agenda. Seems the opposite.
Date: 31/03/2014 23:56:34
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 512011
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
transition said:
I think what you’re saying, sort of from a flipside perspective, is that the relatives have some legitimate business with the airline etc, but media and its audience don’t.
It doesn’t make any more sense the second time round.
Date: 1/04/2014 00:00:00
From: transition
ID: 512013
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
>It doesn’t make any more sense the second time round
I put it to you, does the media and its audience have a more legitimate interest in the possible crash of that plane than those variously affiliated with those onboard presumed deceased.
Date: 1/04/2014 00:04:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 512015
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
transition said:
>It doesn’t make any more sense the second time round
I put it to you, does the media and its audience have a more legitimate interest in the possible crash of that plane than those variously affiliated with those onboard presumed deceased.
I would say no. The whereabouts of the plane is of more import to the family members than to the interested outsiders reading or watching various media.
Date: 1/04/2014 00:07:09
From: transition
ID: 512019
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
>I would say no. The whereabouts of the plane is of more import to the family members than to the interested outsiders reading or watching various media.
Yes that’s fairly much my point.
Media feed of death and misfortune, make it everyones or anyones business, distort things.
Date: 4/05/2014 21:23:52
From: wookiemeister
ID: 527036
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
A mystery surrounding the cargo being carried by the missing Malaysian Airlines plane emerged on Friday when it was discovered that it had been loaded with items not specified on the manifest.
The aircraft was carrying 4.566 tonnes of mangosteens – an exotic fruit – and a shipment of lithium batteries, which were part of a separate consignment.
The batteries weighed 200kg, but that separate consignment totalled 2.453 tonnes. So what was being carried to make up the 2.253 tonnes in that separate shipment?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619388/What-havent-told-cargo-MH370-Mystery-deepens-missing-flight-claims-loaded-2-3tonnes-items-not-listed-manifest.html#ixzz30kEoD2WE
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Date: 4/05/2014 21:26:14
From: dv
ID: 527037
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
wookiemeister said:
A mystery surrounding the cargo being carried by the missing Malaysian Airlines plane emerged on Friday when it was discovered that it had been loaded with items not specified on the manifest.
The aircraft was carrying 4.566 tonnes of mangosteens – an exotic fruit – and a shipment of lithium batteries, which were part of a separate consignment.
The batteries weighed 200kg, but that separate consignment totalled 2.453 tonnes. So what was being carried to make up the 2.253 tonnes in that separate shipment?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619388/What-havent-told-cargo-MH370-Mystery-deepens-missing-flight-claims-loaded-2-3tonnes-items-not-listed-manifest.html#ixzz30kEoD2WE
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Never mind the gold … mangosteens and lithium? This thing was worth billions.
Date: 4/05/2014 21:30:06
From: party_pants
ID: 527038
Subject: re: MH370 carrying gold bullion
dv said:
wookiemeister said:
A mystery surrounding the cargo being carried by the missing Malaysian Airlines plane emerged on Friday when it was discovered that it had been loaded with items not specified on the manifest.
The aircraft was carrying 4.566 tonnes of mangosteens – an exotic fruit – and a shipment of lithium batteries, which were part of a separate consignment.
The batteries weighed 200kg, but that separate consignment totalled 2.453 tonnes. So what was being carried to make up the 2.253 tonnes in that separate shipment?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619388/What-havent-told-cargo-MH370-Mystery-deepens-missing-flight-claims-loaded-2-3tonnes-items-not-listed-manifest.html#ixzz30kEoD2WE
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Never mind the gold … mangosteens and lithium? This thing was worth billions.
If the Li batteries were a bulk pack of the Ryobi One+ system, I would have hijacked a plane to get my hands on them.