It appears they do it in about 10 seconds, what is the actual time taken?

bob(from black rock) said:

It appears they do it in about 10 seconds, what is the actual time taken?

About two seconds.

Spiny Norman said:

bob(from black rock) said:

It appears they do it in about 10 seconds, what is the actual time taken?

About two seconds.

. How is that possible?

bob(from black rock) said:

Spiny Norman said:

bob(from black rock) said:

It appears they do it in about 10 seconds, what is the actual time taken?

About two seconds.

. How is that possible?

They only have one wheel nut per wheel and the pneumatic gun used to undo & do-up the nut is specially built to do it extremely quickly.
There’s one guy on the wheel gun, another guy to pull the old wheel off, and another guy to put the new wheel on.

Spiny Norman said:

They only have one wheel nut per wheel…

For a second, i thought you were talking about the steering wheel.

Do the tyre change guys do anything else or is it their only task?

Spiny Norman said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Spiny Norman said:

About two seconds.

. How is that possible?

They only have one wheel nut per wheel and the pneumatic gun used to undo & do-up the nut is specially built to do it extremely quickly.
There’s one guy on the wheel gun, another guy to pull the old wheel off, and another guy to put the new wheel on.

.OK Spiny thanks

• For a second, i thought you were talking about the steering wheel.

Steering wheel just pops off, doesn’t it?

furious said:

• For a second, i thought you were talking about the steering wheel.

Steering wheel just pops off, doesn’t it?

I was thinking about the nut that holds the steering wheel.

furious said:

Do the tyre change guys do anything else or is it their only task?

I think that’s all they do. Everything else is also being done at the same time as the tyre change.

Although, i think that they do stuff with the tyres between stops – select and arrange tyres for future changes to match weather and track conditions, look for wear on removed tyres for clues about steering and traction, ensure that tools and such are all ready and functional, tyres properly inflated and fitted. Biut, they’ve probably done a lot fo those check fifty times beforehand, anyway.

Wonder how that looks on a CV – “Previous job: pulling tyres off racing cars”

I though maybe that on non race days they were mechanics or something else to occupy their time. How do you work up to that kind of role? Find guys down at tyrepower that do a good job?

Neophyte said:

Wonder how that looks on a CV – “Previous job: pulling tyres off racing cars”

Ok, i suppose.

Now, if it said ‘pulling tyres off moving racing cars’….

They are mechanics.

furious said:

Do the tyre change guys do anything else or is it their only task?

There’s truckloads ( literally) of setting up and pulling down to be done before and after the race.. I imagine they do that and all the rest of the work that’s done on the car between sessions.

Neophyte said:

Wonder how that looks on a CV – “Previous job: pulling tyres off racing cars”

Pit Crew Member – Prestigious Formula 1 Racing Team.

… looks pretty good to me.

party_pants said:

Pit Crew Member – Prestigious Formula 1 Racing Team.

… looks pretty good to me.

Would be interesting to know what their working conditions are actually like. Do they, for example, get paid nothing, spend 9 months of the year living out of a suitcase in hotel rooms, getting treated like a shovel-monkey, for a team that has no chance of winning?

I’m not sure it would be all that good, honestly.

party_pants said:

Neophyte said:

Wonder how that looks on a CV – “Previous job: pulling tyres off racing cars”

Pit Crew Member – Prestigious Formula 1 Racing Team.

… looks pretty good to me.

Works well under pressure, achieves tight deadlines

Rule 303 said:

party_pants said:

Pit Crew Member – Prestigious Formula 1 Racing Team.

… looks pretty good to me.

Would be interesting to know what their working conditions are actually like. Do they, for example, get paid nothing, spend 9 months of the year living out of a suitcase in hotel rooms, getting treated like a shovel-monkey, for a team that has no chance of winning?

I’m not sure it would be all that good, honestly.

I met a guy who made the exhausts for McLaren, I didn’t ask about his pay but he was happy in his work and said that everyone in the company got to go to the races at some point.

Rule 303 said:

party_pants said:

Pit Crew Member – Prestigious Formula 1 Racing Team.

… looks pretty good to me.

Would be interesting to know what their working conditions are actually like. Do they, for example, get paid nothing, spend 9 months of the year living out of a suitcase in hotel rooms, getting treated like a shovel-monkey, for a team that has no chance of winning?

I’m not sure it would be all that good, honestly.

I’m pretty sure that they have other full-times jobs on the team during the week, but they fill-in on race day as pit crew too. Designers and engineers, as well as the mechanics.

“The majority of the guys who make up the pitcrew are the car’s mechanics, but the crew may also include truck drivers and engine fitters. The role is essentially open to anyone on the race team who does not have a critical role once the race is underway and shows a talent for it. The only fixed role is that of the chief mechanic will normally be ‘lollipop man’, ie he will oversee each stop from the front and then controls the release of the car after the stop is safely completed. This job is still critical even with the evolution of automatic release and traffic lights.

The remaining crew members are then selected based on their physical attributed, jack men tend to be tall and week built as requires physical strength to lift the car. Wheel gunners themselves tend to be lighter and more agile but it’s hard to convey on TV how violent the pneumatic rattle guns can be, it’s still a very physical part of the job.”

http://jobinf1.com/2013/05/13/f1-jobs-how-do-i-get-a-job-on-an-f1-pitcrew/

party_pants said:

I’m pretty sure that they have other full-times jobs on the team during the week, but they fill-in on race day as pit crew too. Designers and engineers, as well as the mechanics.

2014 Formula 1 Racing season.

Round Race title Grand Prix Circuit Date
1 2014 Formula 1 Rolex Australian Grand Prix Australian Grand Prix Australia Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, Melbourne 16 March
2 2014 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysia Grand Prix Malaysian Grand Prix Malaysia Sepang International Circuit, Kuala Lumpur 30 March
3 2014 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir 6 April
4 2014 Formula 1 UBS Chinese Grand Prix Chinese Grand Prix China Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai 20 April
5 Formula 1 Gran Premio de España Pirelli 2014 Spanish Grand Prix Spain Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, Barcelona 11 May
6 Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2014 Monaco Grand Prix Monaco Circuit de Monaco, Monte Carlo 25 May
7 Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2014 Canadian Grand Prix Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal 8 June
8 Formula 1 Großer Preis von Österreich 2014 Austrian Grand Prix Austria Red Bull Ring, Spielberg 22 June
9 2014 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix British Grand Prix United Kingdom Silverstone Circuit, Silverstone 6 July
10 Formula 1 Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland 2014 German Grand Prix Germany Hockenheimring, Hockenheim 20 July
11 Formula 1 Pirelli Magyar Nagydíj 2014 Hungarian Grand Prix Hungary Hungaroring, Budapest 27 July
12 2014 Formula 1 Shell Belgian Grand Prix Belgian Grand Prix Belgium Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Francorchamps 24 August
13 Formula 1 Gran Premio d’Italia 2014 Italian Grand Prix Italy Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza 7 September
14 2014 Formula 1 Singapore Grand Prix Singapore Grand Prix Singapore Marina Bay Street Circuit, Marina Bay 21 September
15 2014 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix Japanese Grand Prix Japan Suzuka Circuit, Suzuka 5 October
16 2014 Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix Russian Grand Prix Russia Sochi International Street Circuit, Adlersky District 12 October
17 2014 Formula 1 United States Grand Prix United States Grand Prix United States Circuit of the Americas, Austin 2 November
18 Formula 1 Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2014 Brazilian Grand Prix Brazil Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo 9 November
19 2014 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Abu Dhabi Grand Prix United Arab Emirates Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi 23 November

Signing on to Pit for a full season looks like 9 months of loneliness and misery and jetlag to me.

Rule 303 said:

Signing on to Pit for a full season looks like 9 months of loneliness and misery and jetlag to me.

I’m not so sure. I reckon they’d have plenty of time to party on after the race in between packing up and moving to the next venue. There’s a huge travelling circus that turns up to every race, journos and hangers-on included.

Rule 303 said:

Signing on to Pit for a full season looks like 9 months of loneliness and misery and jetlag to me.

There are worse jobs and I doubt that loneliness is a big problem in a team that size.

I know a guy that photographs the Moto GP. He goes to every race and some World Superbike events. I used to envy him, but man, I’m glad I don’t have to do that.

Being a photographer can be a lonely job.

party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

Signing on to Pit for a full season looks like 9 months of loneliness and misery and jetlag to me.

I’m not so sure. I reckon they’d have plenty of time to party on after the race in between packing up and moving to the next venue. There’s a huge travelling circus that turns up to every race, journos and hangers-on included.

And the pit-girls, don’t forget the pit-girls that are fit-girls. New pit-girls that are fit-girls at every venue.

The pit crew are all full time mechanics, they do much more than just change tyres

Spiny Norman said:

bob(from black rock) said:

It appears they do it in about 10 seconds, what is the actual time taken?

About two seconds.

Yes, saw that on TV and was totally startled, I’ll swear that one pit crew managed it in less than 2 seconds. How, I don’t know. The actual initial wheel removal from stop of car to initial sideways wheel removal was too fast for me to see – definitely not more than 0.2 seconds, possibly much less. The operation also required far more pit crew than I was used to seeing.

I doubt any of the lowest tea makers for a F1 team are not swimming in cocaine and groupies.