Arts said:

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let’s try a post now..

Chicken from Hell’ skeleton sheds light on 250kg feathered dinosaur anzu wyliei
By Cristen Tilley

Updated 8 minutes ago

A 250-kilogram ‘chicken from hell’ with features similar to the cassowary is the latest dinosaur discovery by US scientists, who have named the “scary and absurd” creature after a mythical bird-like demon.

Almost a full skeleton of the sharp-clawed, crested raptor that roamed the Hell Creek rock formation in North and South Dakota 66 million years ago was pieced together from three different specimens.

They have named it anzu wyliei: “anzu” after a bird-like demon in Mesopotamian mythology, and “wyliei” after Wylie J Tuttle, the dinosaur-loving grandson of a Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh trustee.

“It was a giant raptor, but with a chicken-like head and presumably feathers. The animal stood about 10 feet tall, so it would be scary as well as absurd to encounter,” says University of Utah biology postdoctoral fellow Emma Schachner, a co-author of a new study of the dinosaur.

Use this interactive image to get the details on anzu wyliei:

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why do they think it was feathered
why when they make drawings of these finds they allow them selves to add things that may or may not be true?

presumably feathers

this type of science is misleading

robadob said:

why do they think it was feathered
why when they make drawings of these finds they allow them selves to add things that may or may not be true?

David Attenborough’s recent shows on ABC had fossils in which you can clearly see where there were feathers.

For example

robadob said:

why do they think it was feathered
why when they make drawings of these finds they allow them selves to add things that may or may not be true?

palaeontological clues go beyond just the bones..

Archaeopteryx

of course there other dinosaurs that had feathers ,that’s not in question

“It was a giant raptor, but with a chicken-like head and presumably feathers.

there own statement said presumably had feathers.

they should state whether there was evidence of feathers (evidence indicating the plausibility) .
what does presumably mean? (we would like to think there were feathers because it would make our find more interesting)?

maybe there are other fossils that belong to the same type of creature and they have feathers.

maybe
but there writting should only state what is

after a bit its like FOXTEL DISCOVERY you dont know whats made up wishfull thinking or true supported by evidence

the only solution then is to read the primary source.

robadob said:

maybe
but there writting should only state what is

after a bit its like FOXTEL DISCOVERY you dont know whats made up wishfull thinking or true supported by evidence

No.

Anzu wyliei is from a group called Oviraptorosauria. We know from other fossils that these dinosaurs had feathers. Therefore we infer that this one has feathers. As an example of this sort of scientific inference, we have never found a Neandertal’s uterus, but because we know its relatives have uteri, we know that Neandertal did too.

Evidence for feathered oviraptorosaurs exists in several forms. Most directly, four species of primitive oviraptorosaurs (in the genera Caudipteryx, Protarchaeopteryx, and Similicaudipteryx) have been found with impressions of well developed feathers, most notably on the wings and tail, suggesting that they functioned at least partially for display. Secondly, at least four oviraptorosaur genera (Nomingia, Similicaudipteryx, Citipati, and Conchoraptor) preserved tails ending in something like a pygostyle, a bony structure at the end of the tail that, in modern birds, is used to support a fan of feathers. Similarly, quill knobs (anchor points for wing feathers on the ulna) have been reported in the oviraptorosaurian species Avimimus portentosus. Additionally, a number of oviraptorid specimens have famously been discovered in a nesting position similar to that of modern birds. The arms of these specimens are positioned in such a way that they could perfectly cover their eggs if they had small wings and a substantial covering of feathers.

ChrispenEvan said:

the only solution then is to read the primary source.

Also the PLoS article wouldn’t open :-( hence the Phil.

In other words, we’re pretty sure Neanderthals didn’t lay eggs.

Or have feathers…

perfect OCDC said:

robadob said:

maybe
but there writting should only state what is

after a bit its like FOXTEL DISCOVERY you dont know whats made up wishfull thinking or true supported by evidence

No.

Anzu wyliei is from a group called Oviraptorosauria. We know from other fossils that these dinosaurs had feathers. Therefore we infer that this one has feathers. As an example of this sort of scientific inference, we have never found a Neandertal’s uterus, but because we know its relatives have uteri, we know that Neandertal did too.

Evidence for feathered oviraptorosaurs exists in several forms. Most directly, four species of primitive oviraptorosaurs (in the genera Caudipteryx, Protarchaeopteryx, and Similicaudipteryx) have been found with impressions of well developed feathers, most notably on the wings and tail, suggesting that they functioned at least partially for display. Secondly, at least four oviraptorosaur genera (Nomingia, Similicaudipteryx, Citipati, and Conchoraptor) preserved tails ending in something like a pygostyle, a bony structure at the end of the tail that, in modern birds, is used to support a fan of feathers. Similarly, quill knobs (anchor points for wing feathers on the ulna) have been reported in the oviraptorosaurian species Avimimus portentosus. Additionally, a number of oviraptorid specimens have famously been discovered in a nesting position similar to that of modern birds. The arms of these specimens are positioned in such a way that they could perfectly cover their eggs if they had small wings and a substantial covering of feathers.

OCDC said:

robadob said:

maybe
but there writting should only state what is

after a bit its like FOXTEL DISCOVERY you dont know whats made up wishfull thinking or true supported by evidence

No.

Anzu wyliei is from a group called Oviraptorosauria. We know from other fossils that these dinosaurs had feathers. Therefore we infer that this one has feathers. As an example of this sort of scientific inference, we have never found a Neandertal’s uterus, but because we know its relatives have uteri, we know that Neandertal did too.

Evidence for feathered oviraptorosaurs exists in several forms. Most directly, four species of primitive oviraptorosaurs (in the genera Caudipteryx, Protarchaeopteryx, and Similicaudipteryx) have been found with impressions of well developed feathers, most notably on the wings and tail, suggesting that they functioned at least partially for display. Secondly, at least four oviraptorosaur genera (Nomingia, Similicaudipteryx, Citipati, and Conchoraptor) preserved tails ending in something like a pygostyle, a bony structure at the end of the tail that, in modern birds, is used to support a fan of feathers. Similarly, quill knobs (anchor points for wing feathers on the ulna) have been reported in the oviraptorosaurian species Avimimus portentosus. Additionally, a number of oviraptorid specimens have famously been discovered in a nesting position similar to that of modern birds. The arms of these specimens are positioned in such a way that they could perfectly cover their eggs if they had small wings and a substantial covering of feathers.

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