Date: 10/04/2014 13:35:26
From: Kingy
ID: 516535
Subject: Diesel engine overheating

I run a 4cyl non-turbo diesel in a skid steer. It is ten years old. I recently installed a new radiator(last November). It has run fine all summer but has lately decided to overheat even though the weather is much cooler and the engine load has not changed.

It is full of new coolant, I have just replaced the fan belt in case it was that, there is a lot of hot airflow through the radiator. The engine is not under any more load than normal. It does not have a temp gauge, only a light and buzzer.

I am running out of ideas. Anyone else have any?

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Date: 10/04/2014 13:39:49
From: The_observer
ID: 516536
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Hows the thermostat?

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Date: 10/04/2014 13:46:09
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 516537
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Kingy said:


I run a 4cyl non-turbo diesel in a skid steer. It is ten years old. I recently installed a new radiator(last November). It has run fine all summer but has lately decided to overheat even though the weather is much cooler and the engine load has not changed.

It is full of new coolant, I have just replaced the fan belt in case it was that, there is a lot of hot airflow through the radiator. The engine is not under any more load than normal. It does not have a temp gauge, only a light and buzzer.

I am running out of ideas. Anyone else have any?

Off the top of my head:

1. Lack of coolant.
2. lack of pump to move it.
3. Restriction.
4. Lack of airflow. (Thermofan?)
5. faulty temp sensor.

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Date: 10/04/2014 13:46:53
From: morrie
ID: 516538
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Sounds like a similar problem to what party pants was having with his forklift.

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Date: 10/04/2014 15:17:04
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 516556
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Carmen_Sandiego said:


Kingy said:

I run a 4cyl non-turbo diesel in a skid steer. It is ten years old. I recently installed a new radiator(last November). It has run fine all summer but has lately decided to overheat even though the weather is much cooler and the engine load has not changed.

It is full of new coolant, I have just replaced the fan belt in case it was that, there is a lot of hot airflow through the radiator. The engine is not under any more load than normal. It does not have a temp gauge, only a light and buzzer.

I am running out of ideas. Anyone else have any?

Off the top of my head:

1. Lack of coolant.
2. lack of pump to move it.
3. Restriction.
4. Lack of airflow. (Thermofan?)
5. faulty temp sensor.

Points 1 and 4 were adressed in OP
I reckon thermostat could be the culprit.

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Date: 10/04/2014 17:48:22
From: transition
ID: 516603
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

check that has water flow (thermostat opening), though lot of times they stick full open but not always.

check it’s not smoking out the back pipe a lot, as blocked airfilter can make them run hot.

radiator tubes could also be blocked.

if you took the plastic guard off around the fan this will make them run hot, especially hot weather as fan doesn’t pull air through radiator properly, instead pulls it from sides, which tends to disincline the thermo clutch from doing what it’s meant to do.

if it might be radiator tubes you put a fire unit on the outlet end and backflush it.

could drop the impeller off the water pump, but doubt that’d be it.

i gather it’s not blowing any coolant out the radiator cap vent with normal operation, as this’d suggest head gasket or cracked head or rust holes in head or cylinder liners. Generally any tripping the radiator cap pressure valve and release of excessive coolant suggests something bad, and you can idle it and look for bubbles with cap off is gives an idea of that sort of thing too.

I suppose if your injection timing is way out, but doubt it. it’d likely idle wrong and stuff

might wanna backflush the entire block and radiator (though thermostat might stop you flushing the block), don’t overdo it if using the firetruck

oh check it still has the fin things on the tubes of the radiator too, though generally you can lose a fair bit of them from corrosion etc and not too bad, my nissan had lost about 1/3 them still was running cool.

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Date: 10/04/2014 17:52:38
From: Skunkworks
ID: 516604
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Some stick steer vehicles have a radiator blade that can run in two directions for cold and dusty conditions.

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Date: 10/04/2014 18:00:07
From: transition
ID: 516606
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

probably check it’s not blocked with dust etc, if it is give it a blast with aircompressor, or maybe hose, but don’t blow it to bits, they get a bit fragile.

check fan drive belt. then i’d be thinking thermostat, or radiator core pipes

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Date: 10/04/2014 18:01:28
From: Skunkworks
ID: 516608
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

transition said:


probably check it’s not blocked with dust etc, if it is give it a blast with aircompressor, or maybe hose, but don’t blow it to bits, they get a bit fragile.

check fan drive belt. then i’d be thinking thermostat, or radiator core pipes

And some engines require bleeding after cooling has been played around with. Nissan 6 for eg.

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Date: 10/04/2014 18:04:43
From: transition
ID: 516612
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

>And some engines require bleeding after cooling has been played around with. Nissan 6 for eg.

yeah fucken ford courier is bad that way, gotta take temp sensor out bleed it.

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Date: 10/04/2014 19:54:19
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 516694
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

gaghalfrunt said:


Points 1 and 4 were adressed in OP
I reckon thermostat could be the culprit.

Point 1 was, not the others. And you may be right.

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Date: 10/04/2014 19:57:39
From: jjjust moi
ID: 516698
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Carmen_Sandiego said:


gaghalfrunt said:

Points 1 and 4 were adressed in OP
I reckon thermostat could be the culprit.

Point 1 was, not the others. And you may be right.


If it gets to the boilng stage it’s quite easy to tell if it’s an unopened thermostat.

Bit unusual nowdays though, most of them fail open.

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Date: 10/04/2014 19:59:29
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 516700
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Time for the checkout

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Date: 10/04/2014 20:19:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 516720
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Skeptic Pete said:


Time for the checkout

It’s just overheating Peat, probably got years left in it.

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Date: 10/04/2014 20:40:40
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 516725
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Don’t talk to me about diesel engines.

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Date: 10/04/2014 20:55:10
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 516728
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Skeptic Pete said:


Don’t talk to me about diesel engines.

diesel fitter?

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Date: 10/04/2014 20:56:21
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 516730
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Needs more boost.
HTH.

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Date: 10/04/2014 21:05:23
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 516731
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

anyone know of a good ute chiropractor?

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Date: 10/04/2014 21:09:40
From: transition
ID: 516733
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

>anyone know of a good ute chiropractor?

have to have been rearended, yeah?

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Date: 10/04/2014 21:19:31
From: JudgeMental
ID: 516735
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

my neighbour is an expert on pulling cars straight.

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Date: 10/04/2014 21:45:27
From: Michael V
ID: 516748
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

stumpy_seahorse said:


anyone know of a good ute chiropractor?

!http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/stumpy_seahorse/1947712_454952337970749_8469183747956976783_n_zps89574459.jpg

Heck!

How’d that happen?

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Date: 10/04/2014 21:55:15
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 516755
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Michael V said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

anyone know of a good ute chiropractor?

!http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/stumpy_seahorse/1947712_454952337970749_8469183747956976783_n_zps89574459.jpg

Heck!

How’d that happen?

no idea.
doesn’t look like much damage… other than the bending

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Date: 10/04/2014 21:57:25
From: Michael V
ID: 516759
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

stumpy_seahorse said:


Michael V said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

anyone know of a good ute chiropractor?

!http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/stumpy_seahorse/1947712_454952337970749_8469183747956976783_n_zps89574459.jpg

Heck!

How’d that happen?

no idea.
doesn’t look like much damage… other than the bending

Looks really weird.

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Date: 10/04/2014 22:01:06
From: Michael V
ID: 516760
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Michael V said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Michael V said:

Heck!

How’d that happen?

no idea.
doesn’t look like much damage… other than the bending

Looks really weird.
Anyway, I’m confident it will buff out.

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Date: 11/04/2014 00:21:22
From: Kingy
ID: 516774
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Ok, I will chuck the thermostat out and try again.

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Date: 12/04/2014 20:58:21
From: transition
ID: 517655
Subject: re: Diesel engine overheating

Was thinking too if the rings are fucked on couple or more pistons and has lot of blowby/bypass, this’ll make it run hot.

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