I know it won’t work as it’s not possible but why won’t this one? I’ve got people on FB telling me it does but I don’t have the electrical background to work out the innards of it.
Looks much like a pretty conventional generator to me.

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

Spiny Norman said:

I know it won’t work as it’s not possible but why won’t this one? I’ve got people on FB telling me it does but I don’t have the electrical background to work out the innards of it.
Looks much like a pretty conventional generator to me.

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

First page:

“The QEG is not a complicated device, as it is designed (like Tesla’s other ‘discoveries’), to work in harmony with
natural laws, rather than with the power wasting symmetric motor and generator designs used in today’s
mainstream industry. “

ROFL

sibeen said:

Spiny Norman said:

I know it won’t work as it’s not possible but why won’t this one? I’ve got people on FB telling me it does but I don’t have the electrical background to work out the innards of it.
Looks much like a pretty conventional generator to me.

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

First page:

“The QEG is not a complicated device, as it is designed (like Tesla’s other ‘discoveries’), to work in harmony with
natural laws, rather than with the power wasting symmetric motor and generator designs used in today’s
mainstream industry. “

ROFL

Yeah I know it’s crap, but why?

“As previously mentioned, the exciter coil is used to provide a conduction path through the quantum field
(zero point) into the generator core.”

this bit here is one reason it probably doesn’t work.

ChrispenEvan said:

“As previously mentioned, the exciter coil is used to provide a conduction path through the quantum field
(zero point) into the generator core.”

this bit here is one reason it probably doesn’t work.

I just got to that bit and was about to post it.

Damm you, Boris!!!

There’s gold in that paper. Not that I can explain ‘why’ though.

“Does the QEG emit radiation?
No – it’s not that type of energy.
- What form of energy does QEG use?
Electromagnetic and atmospheric charge”

too late sibeen i’ve been damned for years.

hope that load of shit didn’t come with a virus or something, being full of altruism and gifts, wasn’t worth the few cents it cost to load the pdf

Does the QEG slow down when more of a load is added?
No
–
it’s not that type of energy.
-
Does the QEG emit radiation?
No
–
it’s not that type of energy.
-
What form
of energy does QEG use?
Electromagnetic
and atmospheric charge

giggles

Christ, have a look at the input switch, the DPDT. Throw it into the other position – the input 240 volts will be fed directly to the top 120 volt output.

They are also running the DC motor off an AC supply, via a variac.

THIS WILL NOT WORK!.

dafuq is a variac?

poikilotherm said:

dafuq is a variac?

Yes.

I think the main point is that the powersource is gobbledegook rather than a real thing.

A vaiac is an adjustable transformer.

So the output of the variac can be adjusted between 0 and 240 volts. The frequency does not change and the voltage remains AC. Feeding a DC motor with AC will cause the motor to have conniptions and blow the fuck up. At no stage during this process of blowing the fuck up will it actually act like a motor

BTW

“The QEG is not a complicated device, as it is designed (like Tesla’s other ‘discoveries’), to work in harmony with
natural laws, rather than with the power wasting symmetric motor and generator designs used in today’s
mainstream industry. “

May I also add my ROFL.

Conventional motors and generators have been designed with natural laws in mind.

dv said:

BTW

“The QEG is not a complicated device, as it is designed (like Tesla’s other ‘discoveries’), to work in harmony with
natural laws, rather than with the power wasting symmetric motor and generator designs used in today’s
mainstream industry. “

May I also add my ROFL.

Conventional motors and generators have been designed with natural laws in mind.

Even worse, the motor was invented by Tesla :)

poor old tesla.

hmmm…get back to us with the results whoever builds one.

i’m fucken impressed, mate.

i’d like to have the money to waste on things like this. get the inventors involved and when they don’t work spam utube with the results.

Heh thanks everyone.
Bloke reckons he has a working device (not sure if it’s this one) in his garage that powers small stuff.
I remain completely sceptical.

Spiny Norman said:

Bloke reckons he has a working device (not sure if it’s this one) in his garage that powers small stuff.

Seems like an easy claim to test.

ChrispenEvan said:

i’d like to have the money to waste on things like this. get the inventors involved and when they don’t work spam utube with the results.

It probably wasn’t working at the time because you weren’t in the correct state of consciousness.

Rule 303 said:

Spiny Norman said:

Bloke reckons he has a working device (not sure if it’s this one) in his garage that powers small stuff.

Seems like an easy claim to test.

Yep I reckon I’ll give him a ‘put up or shutup’ test.

i’ll get in touch with my cha.

Spiny Norman said:

Rule 303 said:

Spiny Norman said:

Bloke reckons he has a working device (not sure if it’s this one) in his garage that powers small stuff.

Seems like an easy claim to test.

Yep I reckon I’ll give him a ‘put up or shutup’ test.

It’ll be unfortunately in the back of Zarky’s water powered landrover at the time.

The proof it doesn’t work is that he dosnt have a Nobel prize in ALL THE THINGS!!!!! yet

What amazes me most is the mindset of the people who put this all together. Would have cost quite a bit in materials, and the time taken would have been obscene.

Is it some form of mental illness?

FWIW this is the thread on FB …

https://www.facebook.com/Mark.M.Aldridge.Independent/posts/10152472788524124?comment_id=10152472867764124&offset=0&total_comments=29¬if_t=feed_comment_reply

a different type of machine…

Skeptic, Eric Krieg’s Observations

On Dec. 28, 2008, New Energy Congress member, Eric Krieg wrote:
“I was at the machine for 2 days, it doesn’t work. I ironically spent a lot of effort trying to get it to turn at all for the camera – that and my best statements ended up on the cutting room floor. They didn’t show a guy off camera out of breath trying to get it started – they didn’t show how quick it slows down. Even with a wind, it wouldn’t work by its self while I was there. It is a pathetic failure. I only spectulated that it may run if enough wind goes in the exact direction the wheel goes. People there said that Costo had been saying for decades, “my next set of changes on this will work”. I saw evidence in his shop of what was obviously many totaly different attempts. He has a large following of people who believe that he can someday get it to work but no one who says it works now.
The thousand year history of perpetual motion machines and over balanced wheels is pathetic and punctuated only by the standard free energy frauds involved unsubstantiated claims, followers in denial and claims of forgotten technology. I’m sure in 100 years from now, there will still be losers wasting their lives on overbalanced wheels.
I’d be happy to be convinced by real proof of free energy – and my $10,000 prize is still good.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Aldo_Costa’s_Gravity_Motor

sibeen said:

What amazes me most is the mindset of the people who put this all together. Would have cost quite a bit in materials, and the time taken would have been obscene.

Is it some form of mental illness?

I’d much rather build a pukka Tesla coil. At least they work and make big spark things and so are fun.

Spiny Norman said:

sibeen said:

What amazes me most is the mindset of the people who put this all together. Would have cost quite a bit in materials, and the time taken would have been obscene.

Is it some form of mental illness?

I’d much rather build a pukka Tesla coil. At least they work and make big spark things and so are fun.

What amazes me most is why this forum bothers with such things at all.

rumpole said:

Spiny Norman said:

sibeen said:

What amazes me most is the mindset of the people who put this all together. Would have cost quite a bit in materials, and the time taken would have been obscene.

Is it some form of mental illness?

I’d much rather build a pukka Tesla coil. At least they work and make big spark things and so are fun.

What amazes me most is why this forum bothers with such things at all.

Because they go “zap”. It’s great, especially for younger audiences.

well, we all know it wont work but as an exercise it is good to take it apart to know why. apart from contravening the laws of the natural universe and stuff.

“At no stage during this process of blowing the fuck up will it actually act like a motor”

I love when experienced Engineers use technical jargon

OK, we know over unity devices don’t work, but what is the closest we have got ?

Superconductors ?

rumpole said:

OK, we know over unity devices don’t work, but what is the closest we have got ?

Superconductors ?

Probably the closest is a rock.

0 power input, 0 power output, 0 losses.

Here’s all he FAQ’s for it.
They seem confident ….

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/frequently-asked-questions?catid=0

Still impossible though.

If this for real he would making money from it

wookiemeister said:

If this for real he would making money from it

They are.
http://www.alittlesenough.com/qeg-files/

Spiny Norman said:

They seem confident ….

So am I :)

yeah but you’re in the pocket of big power.

sibeen said:

Spiny Norman said:

They seem confident ….

So am I :)

I’m with you, little fella.
FWIW here’s a schematic of how it’s supposed to be built. Some bloke reckons there’s a description of a AC-to-DC rectifier in the written instructions, but it doesn’t show in the schematic for some reason.

http://www.sustainablemedia.co/QEG/

I don’t know a lot about how electrical circuits work, but even I can tell that contraption isn’t going to access any part of the quantum field, it’ll just make a lot of pretty sparks.

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah but you’re in the pocket of big power.

I’ve been outed, damm it.

I am an agent provocateur for the big two generator companies, Cummins and Caterpiller.

I’ve been in their pay for years sob and have never been able to tear myself from their evil grasp.

If I ever stumbled on some device that could produce electrical power for very little money I’d supply the neighbourhood with air con

It’s illegal to supply electrical power but supplying cold air is totally legal

I am an agent provocateur for the big two generator companies, Cummins and Caterpiller.

so you’re a two stroke man eh?

and in winter wookie you could just talk down the same tube.

Bill, I think you may be being a bit too sceptical. I think if you watch this video it will explain it all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EXhjdRC3YgU

..and if you don’t believe me here is even MORE EVIDENCE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysIXC1pPQn8

ChrispenEvan said:

and in winter wookie you could just talk down the same tube.

I’m not sure that reverse-cycle wookie would make any more sense :)

And we’d better hope these devices to extract energy from the quantum field don’t work, because if they did, once it was started there would be nothing to stop the flow of energy to a more stable state, and the Earth would turn into a little baby star.

The Rev Dodgson said:

And we’d better hope these devices to extract energy from the quantum field don’t work, because if they did, once it was started there would be nothing to stop the flow of energy to a more stable state, and the Earth would turn into a little baby star.

Maybe, or maybe some sort of feedback acts as a brake on the energy flow.

But even better: extracting energy from the quantum field catalyses false vacuum decay and hence destroys not just the Earth but the whole universe. That’ll show ‘em. :)

Also see Schild’s Ladder

gotta be a bit of a joke in that stuff in the link, I mean the guys in pictures have some engineering abilities, so just pulling people’s dicks I think

transition said:

gotta be a bit of a joke in that stuff in the link, I mean the guys in pictures have some engineering abilities, so just pulling people’s dicks I think

It’s not a joke, it’s a scam.

The QEG people are happy to offer technical assistance to anyone who builds a device using their free plans but has trouble getting the machine to function properly. They offer this assistance in the form of Skype interviews, but these interviews are certainly not free: they cost $5 a minute, with a minimum charge of $300 for a one hour interview or part thereof.

And if you want to see a live demo it’ll cost you a cool $200,000 per person in your party. They justify the cost b saying it takes a lot of technical work to set up and tune their demo rig – they can’t risk leaving it tuned…

>It’s not a joke, it’s a scam.

Load of shit anyway, anytime idiots mention over unity I think ‘loon’.

I could make millions selling my plans

PM 2Ring said:

transition said:

gotta be a bit of a joke in that stuff in the link, I mean the guys in pictures have some engineering abilities, so just pulling people’s dicks I think

It’s not a joke, it’s a scam.

The QEG people are happy to offer technical assistance to anyone who builds a device using their free plans but has trouble getting the machine to function properly. They offer this assistance in the form of Skype interviews, but these interviews are certainly not free: they cost $5 a minute, with a minimum charge of $300 for a one hour interview or part thereof.

And if you want to see a live demo it’ll cost you a cool $200,000 per person in your party. They justify the cost b saying it takes a lot of technical work to set up and tune their demo rig – they can’t risk leaving it tuned…

Where did you get that info from, PM?

BTW, I just knew that you’d be an Egan fan :)

I found it at https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-quantum-energy-generator-qeg-10kw-out-for-1kw-in.3572/

From http://www.fixtheworldproject.net/ftw-qeg-consulting.html

Do you need help with your QEG plans? FTW will be offering consulting services to assist with QEG and CICU start ups. James Robitaille, the QEG inventor will be available for technical consulting and Hope Girl will be available for business operations related consulting.

Consultation via skype: For any questions related to the QEG that can be answered over phone or email.
Cost: $300 for up to one hour, $5 per minute over one hour. Payment due at time of booking.

Actually, the lab tour demo thing is not from the fixtheworld people, it’s from these loonies, who have a bunch of other stuff apart from QEGs:
http://www.enlightenedtechnology.org/?page_id=1241

Warning: Do not attempt to imbibe any beverages whilst opening that page, or you may make a mess of your screen and/or keyboard.

PM 2Ring said:

I found it at https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-quantum-energy-generator-qeg-10kw-out-for-1kw-in.3572/

From http://www.fixtheworldproject.net/ftw-qeg-consulting.html

Do you need help with your QEG plans? FTW will be offering consulting services to assist with QEG and CICU start ups. James Robitaille, the QEG inventor will be available for technical consulting and Hope Girl will be available for business operations related consulting.

Consultation via skype: For any questions related to the QEG that can be answered over phone or email.
Cost: $300 for up to one hour, $5 per minute over one hour. Payment due at time of booking.

Actually, the lab tour demo thing is not from the fixtheworld people, it’s from these loonies, who have a bunch of other stuff apart from QEGs:
http://www.enlightenedtechnology.org/?page_id=1241

Warning: Do not attempt to imbibe any beverages whilst opening that page, or you may make a mess of your screen and/or keyboard.

Err…the beverage warning may be a tad too late :)

sibeen said:

BTW, I just knew that you’d be an Egan fan :)

I just wish he wasn’t so much into writing dark stuff. Can’t these modern sci-fi geniuses write nice happy uplifting stories? :)

FWIW, I first found out about Egan from an old school mate. Greg was working as a programmer at a Sydney medical institute where my mate was doing biochemistry stuff.

PM 2Ring said:

sibeen said:

BTW, I just knew that you’d be an Egan fan :)

I just wish he wasn’t so much into writing dark stuff. Can’t these modern sci-fi geniuses write nice happy uplifting stories? :)

FWIW, I first found out about Egan from an old school mate. Greg was working as a programmer at a Sydney medical institute where my mate was doing biochemistry stuff.

I do wish he was more prolific. I do love his writing.

sibeen said:

PM 2Ring said:

sibeen said:

BTW, I just knew that you’d be an Egan fan :)

I just wish he wasn’t so much into writing dark stuff. Can’t these modern sci-fi geniuses write nice happy uplifting stories? :)

FWIW, I first found out about Egan from an old school mate. Greg was working as a programmer at a Sydney medical institute where my mate was doing biochemistry stuff.

I do wish he was more prolific. I do love his writing.

Yeah.

Have you read Dark Integers ?

There are quite a few of his short stories available free online. See here for details.

Ahhh shit. First time I’m in here for a while & what do I see? Some shit apparently linked to NT. FMD the drawing this mob have shown has sod all to do with their bullshit view on stuff. It’s one of NT’s linear oscillators that are run on steam or compressed air. Shebs, I have scrolled back & your first look is correct. The so called DC motor is going to have a short life. The DPDT switch is going to remove the eyebrows off the operator & the so called exciter/tank circuit will do wonders for radio reception if you don’t want any. Best these fuckers could do is run a belt from tesla’s grave to an alternator ‘cause I reckon the poor bastard is spinning in it right now.

:-(

BU!!!!

:)

The exciter / tank circuit looks very, very, very similar to a spark gap transmitter.

Very good for getting your information across a large badwidth (sic)

Shit yes ol’ mate. Just imagine the speed of an induction motor… Let’s say a two pole jobby @ 100kHz. ;-)

See, I didn’t even bother reading this thread.

Me neither, I didn’t even make one comment in this thread.

dv said:

Me neither, I didn’t even make one comment in this thread.

Very true, Mr Voss.

Okay I’m trying to convince a guy on FB that this is bullshit as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TOrB8DlDWA

It’s effectively just an electric motor, and what you can’t see is that there’s a small electric motor hidden away in the silver tower to make it all work.

Anyway, the FB page – https://www.facebook.com/groups/235641679958566/240533022802765/?notif_t=group_comment_reply