Date: 10/05/2014 22:01:39
From: Jing Joh
ID: 529504
Subject: Colonisation

An interesting extrapolation

What if We Can Never Travel Faster Than Light?

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Date: 10/05/2014 22:08:05
From: JudgeMental
ID: 529505
Subject: re: Colonisation

can’t understand him. but the laws of physics say anything with mass cannot be accelerated to the speed of light. wormhole and alcubrierre warp drives are probably not engineeringly possible. still with time dilation long trips are still feasible if we can get up into the 90% SoL range.

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Date: 10/05/2014 22:16:18
From: wookiemeister
ID: 529508
Subject: re: Colonisation

Without reading the article

You ‘d colonise the solar system I guess

Maybe you could put people in lots of water and ship them to a viable star system

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Date: 11/05/2014 19:09:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 529759
Subject: re: Colonisation

wookiemeister said:


Maybe you could put people in lots of water and ship them to a viable star system

You could ship a lot of people if each person is only 0.12 mm in diameter. You can ship even more people if DNA manipulation is done robotically at the destination.

I’d ship a whole ecosystem in a spaceship no bigger than the Curiosity Rover.

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Date: 11/05/2014 19:40:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 529784
Subject: re: Colonisation

mollwollfumble said:


wookiemeister said:

Maybe you could put people in lots of water and ship them to a viable star system

You could ship a lot of people if each person is only 0.12 mm in diameter. You can ship even more people if DNA manipulation is done robotically at the destination.

I’d ship a whole ecosystem in a spaceship no bigger than the Curiosity Rover.


the only thing with shipping dna is that it opens up questions – should the fully functioning human once its grown be told where it came from

what would it do psychologically to someone who never had the opportunity to protest at being sent far away?

I would say it might be better to send people complete who have agreed to a one way trip (would people who agree to this be nutters though and thus not suitable for being sent?

from a efficiency perspective you could ship samples but is this the measure of human endeavour?

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Date: 11/05/2014 19:44:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 529786
Subject: re: Colonisation

maybe you’d want humans that could be repaired and rebuilt genetically so you keep the experience of a 1000 lifetimes so they’d have more chance of survival with every year?

if you could keep people alive for much, much longer round trips could be possible.

the other thing though is that perhaps the person far away might see what is going on, on earth and not want to go back

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Date: 11/05/2014 19:46:03
From: JudgeMental
ID: 529791
Subject: re: Colonisation

if we don’t have suspended animation then we can’t really send whole people. and if we use a generation ship then the children born enroute would have the same reason to ask why they are there.

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Date: 11/05/2014 19:52:41
From: wookiemeister
ID: 529802
Subject: re: Colonisation

JudgeMental said:


if we don’t have suspended animation then we can’t really send whole people. and if we use a generation ship then the children born enroute would have the same reason to ask why they are there.

if you can repair humans then potentially someone could live forever

it would be easier than trying to build a starship that is light years ahead of what we have now

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