Date: 14/05/2014 00:17:56
From: transition
ID: 530555
Subject: bully employed

Joe and his mates, largely hidden from the public,(same as previous governments but trending more so) are about increasing the power of the apparatus (business inclusive) to force people to work. Consider the prospect of say a 65 year old person getting phone calls from employment agencies and centrelink to do with search for work obligations, and them having their payments bounced for non-compliance, and en route to having payments reinstated there will be specialized techniques involving creative ways. Rover will be giving old mother hubbard the bone.

There will also be a backdrop of medical assessment procedures tp ‘encourage’ compliance.

In addition all this, contractual obligations will be part of the enforcement tools (again, more so), both parties wont be contributing equally to the terms and conditions and arrangements of the contractual agreements, of youth similarly and others.

Along with the forced agreements the government and those it outsources services will have rights to aquire much information about individuals, control how information is given context and stored and who has access to it. This is just the formal aspects, there is also informal aspects (lending to informal behaviour controls)..

Much of this will be made possible the moment individuals feel inclined to hand over their mobile and home phone numbers.

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Date: 14/05/2014 10:38:40
From: wookiemeister
ID: 530625
Subject: re: bully employed

We are going to start seeing things explode with this kind of “budget”

Tony abbot and the liberal party can be considered a a fifth column

Just don’t buy from companies and individuals that feed the liberal party machine – it will only encourage them. By not buying from liberal party donors you impose your tax on the government and the liberal party.

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Date: 14/05/2014 13:30:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 530663
Subject: re: bully employed

Notice that most people do not get a proper education

notice also that people who want to be politicians, that most of these people do not have legal training

politicians make policies that become law

notice also that of all the politicians in the lower house and senate, which percentage of them are solicitors and barristers

note also that these few politicians that have legal backgrounds are the ones that lead all the backbenchers around like puppets

and notice also that the one percent rich interact with the few politicians that matter

that’s how it works

and note also that the liberals are really business people not politicians who care about people

liberals are business people out to rip other people off

sell government owned organizations to rich people who can afford to buy all the stock like telstra etc

and now medicare

lock out the poor people, sell to the rich

can poor people afford to buy stock in government owned organizations that are sold to rich people

Australians are being ripped off

and look at mining in Australia, Australian resources being sold by a few rich people, most owned by overseas companies,

Australians are being ripped off

that’s why most Australians do not get proper education because the rich people dont want most Australians to realize the situation, which is that most Australians are being ripped off, because their poor education keeps them dumbed down

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Date: 14/05/2014 13:47:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 530666
Subject: re: bully employed

An honest Government selling government owned assets would divide the shares in an organization and give those shares to each Australian

does that happen?

No, it all goes to rich people

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Date: 14/05/2014 13:48:48
From: wookiemeister
ID: 530667
Subject: re: bully employed

Couple that with vote rigging and thousands of votes going missing and you’ve set the stage for the perfect storm

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Date: 14/05/2014 13:49:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 530668
Subject: re: bully employed

CrazyNeutrino said:

An honest Government selling government owned assets would divide the shares in an organization and give those shares to each Australian

does that happen?

No, it all goes to rich people


Poor people have angry birds and sport to amuse them

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Date: 14/05/2014 13:54:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 530671
Subject: re: bully employed

The Government makes theft look legitimate so it fools people into thinking it’s ok, when in fact, people are being ripped off.

A lot of politicians are criminals

business people let in to parliament, make a lot of spin, fool people, make lots of money

that is how it works

Corporate Australia, sold to rich people

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Date: 14/05/2014 14:12:03
From: transition
ID: 530682
Subject: re: bully employed

just so glad to have started this thread.

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Date: 15/05/2014 15:07:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 531151
Subject: re: bully employed

> increasing the power of the apparatus (business inclusive) to force people to work.

I’m beginning to wonder what the correlation coefficient is between “work” and “income”. Could it be that they are completely uncorrelated?

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