Date: 16/05/2014 14:09:52
From: robadob
ID: 531550
Subject: galixies and stuff

if i gave you my adress it would be like
2 penny lane
hallshead western Australia
southern hemisphere
earth..

what would EARTHS address be ?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:11:07
From: furious
ID: 531551
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

3rd rock from the sun?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:14:44
From: robadob
ID: 531553
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

name of solar system?
and our solar system is in a galaxy?
and that galaxy is in what?

like that :)
dose our sun have a name ?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:17:07
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531554
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

robadob said:


name of solar system?
and our solar system is in a galaxy?
and that galaxy is in what?

like that :)
dose our sun have a name ?

Earth’s Solar System,
Earth’s Galaxy,
Earth’s Universe.

It is all a bit Earth-centric.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:18:08
From: furious
ID: 531555
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Often in science fiction they name planets from their position from the host star…

Our star is called the sun…

This would make earth “Sun 3” though some people refer to it as “Sol 3” to sound clever.

Perhaps you should look at how they name exoplanets?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:19:38
From: robadob
ID: 531556
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

there suns have names ?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:19:48
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531557
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

robadob said:


if i gave you my adress it would be like
2 penny lane
hallshead western Australia
southern hemisphere
earth..

what would EARTHS address be ?

Earth
Solar System
Orion Arm
Milky Way Galaxy
Virgo Supercluster
Pisces-Cetus Supercluster Complex
Observable Universe
Universe

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:20:00
From: robadob
ID: 531558
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

are we part of a galexy ?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:20:22
From: furious
ID: 531559
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Extrasolar planet standard

“an exoplanet’s name is normally formed by taking the name of its parent star and adding a lowercase letter. The first planet discovered in a system is given the designation “b” and later planets are given subsequent letters. If several planets in the same system are discovered at the same time, the closest one to the star gets the next letter, followed by the other planets in order of orbital size.”

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:20:42
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531560
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

robadob said:


are we part of a galexy ?

yes, the Milky Way Galaxy

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:22:41
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531561
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

I’m surprised Rev hasn’t posted this one yet

The Galaxy Song

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:23:12
From: party_pants
ID: 531562
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Earth
3rd Planet from Sun – star catalog number 1 (guess)
Milky Way Galaxy.

From the start catalog entry you’d find out where it was.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:23:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531563
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

diddly-squat said:


robadob said:

if i gave you my adress it would be like
2 penny lane
hallshead western Australia
southern hemisphere
earth..

what would EARTHS address be ?

Earth
Solar System
Orion Arm
Milky Way Galaxy
Virgo Supercluster
Pisces-Cetus Supercluster Complex
Observable Universe
Universe

OK, but “Solar System”, “Observable Universe”, and “Universe” should be identified.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:23:49
From: furious
ID: 531564
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

I looked it up but didn’t think it sufficiently located the earth’s position…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:23:49
From: robadob
ID: 531565
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

yes, the Milky Way Galaxy

so if you wonted to tell so one were in that galaxy we were living ? any thing?

think these astronomy people need to lift there game :)

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:25:21
From: robadob
ID: 531566
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

thank you Rev

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:25:29
From: furious
ID: 531567
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

According to the exoplanet naming convention, they don’t use the number from the host star as another closer one may be found. So they go in order of discovery so rather than three, for us, earth would be 1…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:25:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531568
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

robadob said:

if i gave you my adress it would be like
2 penny lane
hallshead western Australia
southern hemisphere
earth..

what would EARTHS address be ?

Earth
Solar System
Orion Arm
Milky Way Galaxy
Virgo Supercluster
Pisces-Cetus Supercluster Complex
Observable Universe
Universe

OK, but “Solar System”, “Observable Universe”, and “Universe” should be identified.

They are, that’s their name…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:26:20
From: furious
ID: 531569
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

You could tell them to look down?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:27:34
From: party_pants
ID: 531570
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

furious said:

  • 3rd Planet from Sun – star catalog number 1 (guess)

According to the exoplanet naming convention, they don’t use the number from the host star as another closer one may be found. So they go in order of discovery so rather than three, for us, earth would be 1…

Ok – fair enough.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:27:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531571
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

diddly-squat said:


I’m surprised Rev hasn’t posted this one yet

The Galaxy Song

You have to wonder.

What were the 171 people thinking when they “disliked” that?

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:28:34
From: furious
ID: 531572
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Probably religious types…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:29:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531573
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

diddly-squat said:


They are, that’s their name…

But there are other “Solar Systems”, “Observable Universes”, and probably “Universes”

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:29:53
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531574
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

I’m surprised Rev hasn’t posted this one yet

The Galaxy Song

You have to wonder.

What were the 171 people thinking when they “disliked” that?

They were probably thinking that Monty Python were a bit silly and at times not very amusing…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:31:26
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531575
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

They are, that’s their name…

But there are other “Solar Systems”, “Observable Universes”, and probably “Universes”

sure, but we have called ours “Solar System”, “Observable Universe” and “Universe”

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:32:06
From: furious
ID: 531576
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

There are other “Star Systems” and ours is called the “Solar System”

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:32:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 531577
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

They are, that’s their name…

But there are other “Solar Systems”, “Observable Universes”, and probably “Universes”

Sol is the name of our star; other star systems have different names.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:33:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531578
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

furious said:

  • But there are other “Solar Systems”

There are other “Star Systems” and ours is called the “Solar System”

Any sun with planets orbiting it is a solar system.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:34:32
From: furious
ID: 531579
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Ah, yeah. No…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:35:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531580
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

They are, that’s their name…

But there are other “Solar Systems”, “Observable Universes”, and probably “Universes”

Sol is the name of our star; other star systems have different names.

No, it’s just another name for star/sun.

There are billions of others out there.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:38:18
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 531581
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:

Any sun with planets orbiting it is a solar system.

That is not the convention used by astronomers.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:38:40
From: party_pants
ID: 531582
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


furious said:
  • But there are other “Solar Systems”

There are other “Star Systems” and ours is called the “Solar System”

Any sun with planets orbiting it is a solar system.

Perhaps we could get away with calling the Sol System (with capitals) when talking about our system specifically, and solar system (lower case) when talking generically.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:39:49
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 531583
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

party_pants said:

Perhaps we could get away with calling the Sol System (with capitals) when talking about our system specifically, and solar system (lower case) when talking generically.

Easier to use the term ‘star system’.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:40:32
From: robadob
ID: 531584
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Sol :)

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:44:33
From: diddly-squat
ID: 531585
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Perhaps we could get away with calling the Sol System (with capitals) when talking about our system specifically, and solar system (lower case) when talking generically.

Easier to use the term ‘star system’.

It’s A Trap!

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:50:33
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531591
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Perhaps we could get away with calling the Sol System (with capitals) when talking about our system specifically, and solar system (lower case) when talking generically.

Easier to use the term ‘star system’.

A “star system” seems like a good name for a system of stars.

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:52:26
From: furious
ID: 531593
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Yes, the giver of all knowledge (or thereabouts) calls it a “Planetary System”…

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Date: 16/05/2014 14:56:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531594
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

How many solar systems are in our galaxy?

Other Planetary Systems?

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Date: 16/05/2014 15:24:10
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 531596
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Perhaps we could get away with calling the Sol System (with capitals) when talking about our system specifically, and solar system (lower case) when talking generically.

Easier to use the term ‘star system’.

A “star system” seems like a good name for a system of stars.

Or a system that is based on A star.

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Date: 16/05/2014 16:19:56
From: dv
ID: 531610
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

*galaxies

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Date: 16/05/2014 16:44:08
From: rumpole
ID: 531621
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

I think the OP is an interesting question.

Is there a universal co-ordinate system that if you had a starship and typed in x,y,z co-ordinates you would get where you wanted ?

What is the origin of this system ?

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Date: 16/05/2014 16:45:12
From: wookiemeister
ID: 531622
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

rumpole said:


I think the OP is an interesting question.

Is there a universal co-ordinate system that if you had a starship and typed in x,y,z co-ordinates you would get where you wanted ?

What is the origin of this system ?


Bill and ted

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Date: 16/05/2014 16:48:05
From: dv
ID: 531624
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

wookiemeister said:


rumpole said:

I think the OP is an interesting question.

Is there a universal co-ordinate system that if you had a starship and typed in x,y,z co-ordinates you would get where you wanted ?

What is the origin of this system ?


Bill and ted

Relativity would kind of mess up such a system

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:03:48
From: Ian
ID: 531625
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

There is only need to specify The Earth (unless it rains and then it’s The Mud)

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:06:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 531626
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Ian!!!!

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:07:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 531627
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

wow, how about that, i’m in western australia too. we could be neighbours.

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:07:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 531628
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

wookiemeister said:


Ian!!!!

Sorry thought you were someone else

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:08:37
From: Ian
ID: 531629
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

wookiemeister said:


wookiemeister said:

Ian!!!!

Sorry thought you were someone else

Que?

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:10:55
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 531630
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

So, does the universe have a co ordinate system, like latitude and longitude on Earth ?

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Date: 16/05/2014 17:45:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 531643
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

CrazyNeutrino said:


So, does the universe have a co ordinate system, like latitude and longitude on Earth ?


Probably in terms of a kind of imaginary numbers though

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Date: 16/05/2014 18:57:35
From: rumpole
ID: 531718
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Here is one for the galaxy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_coordinate_system

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Date: 16/05/2014 19:09:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 531725
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Best Photo Yet of An Exoplanet

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Date: 17/05/2014 01:09:44
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 531860
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

galixies and stuff

Spelling correctly is also required to get a letter to the correct address

tic

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Date: 17/05/2014 03:28:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 531861
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

diddly-squat said:


robadob said:

if i gave you my adress it would be like
2 penny lane
hallshead western Australia
southern hemisphere
earth..

what would EARTHS address be ?

Earth
Solar System
Orion Arm
Milky Way Galaxy
Virgo Supercluster
Pisces-Cetus Supercluster Complex
Observable Universe
Universe

Way back on the forum I came up with a more detailed address than that, pity I don’t know the link. Something like this.

Earth
Solar System
Local fluff
Local bubble
Gould Belt
Orion Arm
Milky Way Galaxy
Virgo cluster
Virgo-Fornax cluster
… (a sequence of ever-larger superclusters, based on 2MASS data, perhaps something like Ophiuchas cluster, Hercules supercluster, Shapley Concentration, it was more accurate in my earlier post)
Observable Universe
Universe

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Date: 17/05/2014 03:34:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 531862
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

I’m surprised Rev hasn’t posted this one yet

The Galaxy Song

You have to wonder.

What were the 171 people thinking when they “disliked” that?

Is that the original version or the corrected version? The corrected version, by the same author, fixed up errors in the original (eg. in the original for one line “billion” was accidentally stated as “million”). For a long time I had the words of the original Galaxy song posted on my office wall, with corrections.

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Date: 17/05/2014 03:45:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 531864
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Wikipedia gives this for Earth’s address:
Earth → Solar System → Local Interstellar Cloud → Local Bubble → Gould Belt → Orion Arm → Milky Way → Milky Way subgroup → Local Group → Virgo Supercluster → Pisces–Cetus Supercluster Complex → Observable universe → Universe

“Local Interstellar Cloud” is the same as “Local Fluff”.

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Date: 17/05/2014 07:28:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 531872
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Voyager’s Golden Record has an address to find Earth
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contents_of_the_Voyager_Golden_Record

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Date: 17/05/2014 10:53:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 531954
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m surprised Rev hasn’t posted this one yet

The Galaxy Song

You have to wonder.

What were the 171 people thinking when they “disliked” that?

Is that the original version or the corrected version? The corrected version, by the same author, fixed up errors in the original (eg. in the original for one line “billion” was accidentally stated as “million”). For a long time I had the words of the original Galaxy song posted on my office wall, with corrections.

I didn’t notice, it looked pretty original, I didn’t know the original got it wrong.

ps I still say we need to specify which observable universe and which universe we are talking about.

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Date: 18/05/2014 02:50:53
From: Stealth
ID: 532305
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

It seems to not be made clear, but our star/sun’s name is Sol. Hence the stellar system that is centred around Sol is called the Solar system. I have never heard ‘star system’ used before this thread, it is ‘stellar system’ to describe a star and orbiting objects.

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Date: 18/05/2014 07:48:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 532318
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Stealth said:


It seems to not be made clear, but our star/sun’s name is Sol. Hence the stellar system that is centred around Sol is called the Solar system. I have never heard ‘star system’ used before this thread, it is ‘stellar system’ to describe a star and orbiting objects.

“Sol” is the Latin name for “Sun”, and the terms “sun” and “solar system” are widely used for stars and systems of one or more stars and planets other than our own, including by NASA.

So to avoid any possibility of misdirection of mail it makes sense to refer to Earth’s Solar System, rather than just The Solar System.

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Date: 18/05/2014 08:07:33
From: transition
ID: 532321
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

you’ll be needing a postcode for one particular spiral arm of the milky way in there somewhere.

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Date: 18/05/2014 09:23:54
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 532328
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

the difference when talking about our particular sun, moon, solar system etc is that they are capitalised. or should be.

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Date: 18/05/2014 09:28:32
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 532329
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

also the name of our sun is not Sol, our moon is not Selene and our planet is not Terra. of course there is nothing to stop you referring to them as such.

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Date: 18/05/2014 10:24:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 532333
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

ChrispenEvan said:


also the name of our sun is not Sol, our moon is not Selene and our planet is not Terra. of course there is nothing to stop you referring to them as such.

Actually the names for the Sun and the Moon should be Hyperion, and Phoebe respectively, but the astronomers have messed things up by calling a moon of Jupiter Phoebe.

However, to bring this important topic to a close, I will concede that the International Astronomical Union has declared The Sun, The Moon and The Earth to be the one approved and correct name for these bodies.

But good luck to them getting that accepted by the Intergalactic Postal Union.

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Date: 18/05/2014 10:27:55
From: transition
ID: 532335
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

being sunday, master rev, you should be looking to the good book for guidance

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Date: 18/05/2014 11:06:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 532360
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

transition said:


being sunday, master rev, you should be looking to the good book for guidance

I looked to a good song, rather than a good book.

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Date: 18/05/2014 11:12:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 532363
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

Surveying the available Greek Gods, I suppose Pluto is the most appropriate for the Earth, but since that name has already been allocated to a not-a-planet, I suggest Demeter:

“Goddess of grain, agriculture and the harvest, growth and nourishment”

I’m sure transition will approve.

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Date: 18/05/2014 12:25:54
From: transition
ID: 532391
Subject: re: galixies and stuff

>“Goddess of grain, agriculture and the harvest, growth and nourishment”
I’m sure transition will approve.

+ thumbs up, that’ll do fine.

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