Date: 29/05/2014 14:52:37
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 538999
Subject: The Efimov State

Bizarre Soviet-Era Theory About New State Of Matter Is Actually Right

Here’s your dose of mind-bending physics for the day. In 1970, a young Soviet physicist named Vitaly Efimov proposed a trio of ultracold particles could arrange themselves in an “infinite nesting-doll configuration”. Scientists have now published compelling evidence that this state of matter, once dismissed by physicists, totally does exist.

Picture: The machine used to trap and cool ultracold cesium atoms. C. Lackner/Institute for Quantum Optics and Quantum Information

Like most of us, physicists themselves were perplexed when they first heard of what is called now called the Efimov state. But Efimov’s maths has held up in the four and a half decades since, and technological advances have even allowed physicists to achieve the Efimov state in a lab.

The balance of forces acting on three particles allows for the Efimov state. In her piece for Quanta Magazine, journalist Natalie Wolochover valiantly wades into the quantum mechanics behind it:

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Date: 1/06/2014 21:56:24
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 541115
Subject: re: The Efimov State

> a young Soviet physicist named Vitaly Efimov proposed a trio of ultracold particles could arrange themselves in an “infinite nesting-doll configuration”

Matryoshka on steroids.

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Date: 1/06/2014 22:15:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 541123
Subject: re: The Efimov State

mollwollfumble said:


> a young Soviet physicist named Vitaly Efimov proposed a trio of ultracold particles could arrange themselves in an “infinite nesting-doll configuration”

Matryoshka on steroids.

How could it be infinite?

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Date: 1/06/2014 22:21:40
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 541124
Subject: re: The Efimov State

The Rev Dodgson said:


How could it be infinite?

Well, it couldn’t, unless it were in an infinite flat universe containing an infinite quantity of the right kind of matter at the right temperature. :)

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Date: 1/06/2014 22:23:22
From: diddly-squat
ID: 541125
Subject: re: The Efimov State

PM 2Ring said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

How could it be infinite?

Well, it couldn’t, unless it were in an infinite flat universe containing an infinite quantity of the right kind of matter at the right temperature. :)

but the point I think they are trying to make is that there are an infinite number of stable configuration states – all on equal scaling factors.

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Date: 1/06/2014 22:37:10
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 541128
Subject: re: The Efimov State

diddly-squat said:


PM 2Ring said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How could it be infinite?

Well, it couldn’t, unless it were in an infinite flat universe containing an infinite quantity of the right kind of matter at the right temperature. :)

but the point I think they are trying to make is that there are an infinite number of stable configuration states – all on equal scaling factors.

Fair enough. Perhaps they could’ve said it was a potentially infinite structure, like a finitely iterated Koch snowflake , Sierpiński gasket , or other simple fractal with a fixed scaling factor.

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Date: 1/06/2014 22:44:55
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 541129
Subject: re: The Efimov State

PM 2Ring said:


diddly-squat said:

PM 2Ring said:

Well, it couldn’t, unless it were in an infinite flat universe containing an infinite quantity of the right kind of matter at the right temperature. :)

but the point I think they are trying to make is that there are an infinite number of stable configuration states – all on equal scaling factors.

Fair enough. Perhaps they could’ve said it was a potentially infinite structure, like a finitely iterated Koch snowflake , Sierpiński gasket , or other simple fractal with a fixed scaling factor.

and then how would you guys get to discuss their subject and indicate to the greater audience you know what you are talking about? Incomplete articles are simply allowing room for genius to quibble……

:P

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Date: 1/06/2014 22:46:14
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 541130
Subject: re: The Efimov State

…… isn’t “eff ‘im off” a coaching term?

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