Date: 2/06/2014 09:47:11
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541178
Subject: Brain-Controlled Flight

Brain-Controlled Flight Is a Thing Now

As a kid, I had a short and ill-advised stint in the Air Cadets that left me with a bad haircut and the knowledge that I’ll never be a pilot, because flying a plane is really hard. Mind-controlled flight could change that, and in fact make it easier to pilot an airplane by using only your brain.

Researchers at the Technische Univerität München (TUM) recently demonstrated how pilots can control a plane with just their thoughts. They hooked seven subjects up to EEG headsets—a device that measures electrical currents in the brain and maps them to a control output—and ran them through a flight simulation.

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:03:03
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 541190
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

CrazyNeutrino said:

…. because flying a plane is really hard.

No, it’s not.

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:36:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 541194
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Spiny Norman said:


CrazyNeutrino said:
…. because flying a plane is really hard.

No, it’s not.

That’s no way to maintain your inflated salary for your job as a glorified bus driver! ;)

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:48:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541195
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

The Rev Dodgson said:


Spiny Norman said:

CrazyNeutrino said:
…. because flying a plane is really hard.

No, it’s not.

That’s no way to maintain your inflated salary for your job as a glorified bus driver! ;)

Buses carry people around like planes do

Bus drivers should demand equal pay

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:51:00
From: diddly-squat
ID: 541198
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

CrazyNeutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Spiny Norman said:

No, it’s not.

That’s no way to maintain your inflated salary for your job as a glorified bus driver! ;)

Buses carry people around like planes do

Bus drivers should demand equal pay

it would be an almighty bus to carry as many people as an A380

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:51:43
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541199
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

diddly-squat said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s no way to maintain your inflated salary for your job as a glorified bus driver! ;)

Buses carry people around like planes do

Bus drivers should demand equal pay

it would be an almighty bus to carry as many people as an A380

They have extended buses

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:53:12
From: diddly-squat
ID: 541202
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

diddly-squat said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s no way to maintain your inflated salary for your job as a glorified bus driver! ;)

Buses carry people around like planes do

Bus drivers should demand equal pay

it would be an almighty bus to carry as many people as an A380

I may well be wrong here but I was of the understanding that an A380 Captain, workings for Qantas, earns in the vicinity of +$300k… not bat coin if you can get it…

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Date: 2/06/2014 10:54:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541204
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

some pilots land their planes in the ocean

runs away…..

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Date: 2/06/2014 11:16:53
From: buffy
ID: 541211
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

diddly-squat said:


diddly-squat said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Buses carry people around like planes do

Bus drivers should demand equal pay

it would be an almighty bus to carry as many people as an A380

I may well be wrong here but I was of the understanding that an A380 Captain, workings for Qantas, earns in the vicinity of +$300k… not bat coin if you can get it…

There seem to be so many claims of people earning these 6 figure salaries. And yet the stats say only 3% of workers earn over $150,000 (if I am remembering correctly). And the median income for workers in Australia is something like $70,000. I know one person earning well over $100,000, but I don’t can’t place any others. I must move and live in the wrong circles.

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Date: 2/06/2014 11:22:39
From: Tamb
ID: 541213
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

>>Buses carry people around like planes do
Bus drivers should demand equal pay

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

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Date: 2/06/2014 11:39:06
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541215
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Tamb said:


>>Buses carry people around like planes do
Bus drivers should demand equal pay

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

well, soon buses, cars, planes and ships will all drive themselves without people

like drones do

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Date: 2/06/2014 11:51:24
From: Tamb
ID: 541217
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

CrazyNeutrino said:


Tamb said:

>>Buses carry people around like planes do
Bus drivers should demand equal pay

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

well, soon buses, cars, planes and ships will all drive themselves without people

like drones do
Maybe. It would be a bit more complicated if there were thousands of vehicles all using a small space like a CBD.

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Date: 2/06/2014 12:05:19
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541219
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Tamb said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Tamb said:

>>Buses carry people around like planes do
Bus drivers should demand equal pay

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

well, soon buses, cars, planes and ships will all drive themselves without people

like drones do
Maybe. It would be a bit more complicated if there were thousands of vehicles all using a small space like a CBD.

Wifi controlled Vehicle Space Routing system

Dont laugh

its coming

you’ve seen science fiction movies where all the vehicles are spaced equally apart?

their will be benefits, like smooth flow of traffic etc

but nothing is perfect, I guess there will be initial hiccups etc

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Date: 2/06/2014 12:13:04
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 541222
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

and its already in development

google is your friend

drone experiments have seen drone swarms all flying together in co ordination

great to look at

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Date: 2/06/2014 22:40:25
From: AussieDJ
ID: 541639
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Tamb said:


I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

Of course you could.

Whether it would be usable afterwards might be another story.

:)

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Date: 2/06/2014 22:44:01
From: Kingy
ID: 541640
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

AussieDJ said:


Tamb said:

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

Of course you could.

Whether it would be usable afterwards might be another story.

:)

Getting an A380 to touch land is not hard.

Walking away from that particular conjunction of land and airplane is the difficult bit.

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Date: 2/06/2014 22:47:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 541642
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Kingy said:


AussieDJ said:

Tamb said:

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

Of course you could.

Whether it would be usable afterwards might be another story.

:)

Getting an A380 to touch land is not hard.

Walking away from that particular conjunction of land and airplane is the difficult bit.

Just dial-up the ILS frequency on NAV1 & 2, engage the autopilots & autothrust, then select land. Set the autobrakes to a medium setting and check that that spoilers are armed.

Then sit back and let it land itself.

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Date: 2/06/2014 22:48:57
From: Kingy
ID: 541643
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Spiny Norman said:


Kingy said:

AussieDJ said:

Of course you could.

Whether it would be usable afterwards might be another story.

:)

Getting an A380 to touch land is not hard.

Walking away from that particular conjunction of land and airplane is the difficult bit.

Just dial-up the ILS frequency on NAV1 & 2, engage the autopilots & autothrust, then select land. Set the autobrakes to a medium setting and check that that spoilers are armed.

Then sit back and let it land itself.

Also don’t forget to feed the dog.

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Date: 2/06/2014 22:54:19
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 541644
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.

— Warren G. Bennis; As cited in: Mark Fisher (1991) The millionaire’s book of quotations. p. 151

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Date: 2/06/2014 23:04:44
From: diddly-squat
ID: 541649
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

diddly-squat said:

it would be an almighty bus to carry as many people as an A380

I may well be wrong here but I was of the understanding that an A380 Captain, workings for Qantas, earns in the vicinity of +$300k… not bat coin if you can get it…

There seem to be so many claims of people earning these 6 figure salaries. And yet the stats say only 3% of workers earn over $150,000 (if I am remembering correctly). And the median income for workers in Australia is something like $70,000. I know one person earning well over $100,000, but I don’t can’t place any others. I must move and live in the wrong circles.

virtually every professional I know with more than 5 years experience would earn in excess of $100,000 and I can guarantee you that every person at a senior manager lever or higher (in the mining industry at least) would be on +$200,000 with general manager level positions on +$300,000 and executives on +$500,000.

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Date: 2/06/2014 23:07:03
From: diddly-squat
ID: 541652
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Spiny Norman said:


Kingy said:

AussieDJ said:

Of course you could.

Whether it would be usable afterwards might be another story.

:)

Getting an A380 to touch land is not hard.

Walking away from that particular conjunction of land and airplane is the difficult bit.

Just dial-up the ILS frequency on NAV1 & 2, engage the autopilots & autothrust, then select land. Set the autobrakes to a medium setting and check that that spoilers are armed.

Then sit back and let it land itself.

but of course the skill isn’t in knowing how to do set the controls to do it automatically, the skill is knowing how to do it when the automatic systems aren’t working.

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Date: 2/06/2014 23:15:27
From: wookiemeister
ID: 541654
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

if MH370 had been hacked the aircraft might have taken gone above its normal ceiling , knocked out the pilots and passengers and then flown somewhere

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Date: 3/06/2014 04:27:31
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 541666
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

Tamb said:


>>Buses carry people around like planes do
Bus drivers should demand equal pay

I’m sure I could park a bus. I’m equally sure I couldn’t land an A380.

From http://wiki.flightgear.org/A380_Tutorial

Landing

At around 10 000ft you will need to switch over the radio frequencies for the ILS. As long as you have entered the STAR route with the MFD the standby NAV1 frequency will be that of the ILS for the runway you selected, simply switch it over to the active frequency.

If you need to track away from the STAR route, dial-up the heading and use the middle-mouse-button for Selected mode, the FMA on the PFD will now display OP DES as engaged and DES as armed. In OP DES mode with speed in managed THR DES mode, the engines will go to idle, and the Flight Path Angle of the aircraft will be varied to meet the currently set speed (either set by the FMS in managed mode, or set by the pilot in selected mode).

When the localiser is in range, LOC will be armed and the dot indicators will appear at the bottom of the PFD, press the LOC button just below the HDG knob to engage the localiser when you are within the first dot range.

At around 3000ft the speed should be around 230knots, extend the gears and turn on external lighting for Nose, Landing and Wing lights.

Set the Selected speed to 200 knots

When the Glideslope is in range, G/S will be armed and the dot indicators will appear on the right side of the PFD, press the APPR button below the V/S knob to engage the Glidescope and Localiser.

When you are within visual of the runway, reduce the selected speed to 180 knots, control your speed by extending the flaps to 1

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Date: 3/06/2014 09:05:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 541682
Subject: re: Brain-Controlled Flight

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

diddly-squat said:

I may well be wrong here but I was of the understanding that an A380 Captain, workings for Qantas, earns in the vicinity of +$300k… not bat coin if you can get it…

There seem to be so many claims of people earning these 6 figure salaries. And yet the stats say only 3% of workers earn over $150,000 (if I am remembering correctly). And the median income for workers in Australia is something like $70,000. I know one person earning well over $100,000, but I don’t can’t place any others. I must move and live in the wrong circles.

virtually every professional I know with more than 5 years experience would earn in excess of $100,000 and I can guarantee you that every person at a senior manager lever or higher (in the mining industry at least) would be on +$200,000 with general manager level positions on +$300,000 and executives on +$500,000.

Yeah, but you have a distorted view of the world because you work in mining.

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