Date: 4/06/2014 12:02:21
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542253
Subject: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

“According to statistics recently released by the government in Denver, the amount of robberies and violent crimes significantly decreased since marijuana legalization went into effect. It is important to mention that this strong correlation is not definitive proof that legalization is the cause of this drop in crime, but it does strongly suggest that this is the case.

The shift accompanies a dip in violent crime overall, as sexual assault fell 13.6% and robbery and aggravated assault fell 4.8% and 3.7%, respectively.

The data pool’s size is important to note, as eight murders compared to 17 in the same time frame last year may seem a blip on the radar. On the other hand, a full quarter of the year has passed. It may be too soon to definitively attribute these changes to marijuana legalization, but the possibility of a correlative pattern is certainly worth keeping an eye on.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:04:50
From: AwesomeO
ID: 542256
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Makes sense, if you are ripped off your tits you tend to stay at home. Hell its hard to motivate yourself off the couch.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:07:08
From: Tamb
ID: 542257
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

AwesomeO said:


Makes sense, if you are ripped off your tits you tend to stay at home. Hell its hard to motivate yourself off the couch.

Might be an upswing in munchies theft though.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:07:27
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542258
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

AwesomeO said:


Makes sense, if you are ripped off your tits you tend to stay at home. Hell its hard to motivate yourself off the couch.

When the subject of ‘the enslaved population’ came up yesterday it occurred to me that legal pot would placate most so long as not too much else changed.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:08:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542259
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

On a side note, is the use of medical marijuana for painkilling purposes only?

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:10:09
From: poikilotherm
ID: 542261
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


On a side note, is the use of medical marijuana for painkilling purposes only?

Ha!

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:10:56
From: AwesomeO
ID: 542263
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


On a side note, is the use of medical marijuana for painkilling purposes only?

Not sure it was good for that at all. More encouraging appetite (munchies) reducing nausea from other medications and some eye conditions.

But it is a complex molecule which effects the brain so lots to investigate.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:11:22
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542264
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

poikilotherm said:


Divine Angel said:

On a side note, is the use of medical marijuana for painkilling purposes only?

Ha!

So emotional trauma is not considerable as pain to be medicated?

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:13:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542265
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

I should have said is it prescribed for painkilling purposes.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:20:59
From: poikilotherm
ID: 542266
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

On a side note, is the use of medical marijuana for painkilling purposes only?

Ha!

So emotional trauma is not considerable as pain to be medicated?

Looks like a coping mechanism to avoid appropriate treatment.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:22:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542268
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Probably also cheaper than appropriate treatment.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:23:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 542269
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


Probably also cheaper than appropriate treatment.

Long term, probably not. Short term, probably.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:24:25
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542270
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

poikilotherm said:


Postpocelipse said:

poikilotherm said:

Ha!

So emotional trauma is not considerable as pain to be medicated?

Looks like a coping mechanism to avoid appropriate treatment.

Didn’t so much mean chronic trauma. I prefer a couple of pipes to wind down at the end of the day over alcohol or sleeping pills…..

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:29:27
From: The_observer
ID: 542271
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

How Does Marijuana Affect the Brain?

The highest density of cannabinoid receptors is found in parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thinking, concentration, sensory and
time perception, and coordinated movement.

These effects include altered perceptions and mood, impaired coordination, difficulty with thinking and problem solving, and disrupted learning
and memory.

Marijuana also affects brain development, and when it is used heavily by young people, its effects on thinking and memory may last a long time
or even be permanent. A recent study of marijuana users who began using in adolescence revealed substantially reduced connectivity among
brain areas responsible for learning and memory. And a large long-term study in New Zealand showed that people who began smoking
marijuana heavily in their teens lost an average of 8 points in IQ between age 13 and age 38. Importantly, the lost cognitive abilities were not fully
restored in those who quit smoking marijuana as adults.

What Are the Other Health Effects of Marijuana?

Marijuana smoke is an irritant to the lungs, and frequent marijuana smokers can have many of the same respiratory problems experienced by
tobacco smokers, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, and a heightened risk of lung infections. One
study found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work
than those who don’t smoke marijuana, mainly because of respiratory illnesses. It is not yet known whether marijuana smoking contributes to
risk for lung cancer.

Is Marijuana Addictive?

Contrary to common belief, marijuana is addictive. Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent of users become addicted to
marijuana; this number increases among those who start young (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) and among people who use marijuana daily (to
25-50 percent).

How Does Marijuana Affect a User’s Life?

Research shows marijuana may cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems worse. Heavy marijuana users generally
report lower life satisfaction, poorer mental and physical health, more relationship problems, and less academic and career success compared
to non-marijuana-using peers. For example, marijuana use is associated with a higher likelihood of dropping out of school. Several studies also
associate workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover.

For additional information on marijuana and marijuana abuse, please see NIDA’s Research Report Marijuana Abuse.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:34:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542273
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

OTOH marijuana seems to benefit creative people.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:34:06
From: dv
ID: 542274
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

You forgot to include the source, T_o.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:34:53
From: The_observer
ID: 542275
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


You forgot to include the source, T_o.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:36:40
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542276
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


How Does Marijuana Affect the Brain?

What Are the Other Health Effects of Marijuana?

Is Marijuana Addictive?

How Does Marijuana Affect a User’s Life?

Yes and alcohol never effected anyone negatively, let alone cigarettes. As far as preferred poisons marijuana is pretty innocuous. Many other factors go into poor lifestyle choices which is the element that exaggerates negative effects.

I have also never heard the term “he’s a bad/angry stoner” used……

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:38:24
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542278
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Stoners are great for sales. They come in wanting 2 doughnuts and end up leaving with 2 dozen.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:38:49
From: dv
ID: 542279
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


Stoners are great for sales. They come in wanting 2 doughnuts and end up leaving with 2 dozen.

And you are able to charge them $2000.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:39:30
From: The_observer
ID: 542280
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


Stoners are great for sales. They come in wanting 2 doughnuts and end up leaving with 2 dozen.

It’s the brain damage

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:40:51
From: dv
ID: 542281
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

I’m no big pro-marijuana nut, but I don’t think anyone would argue that it was as, or even nearly as, harmful as alcohol.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:40:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542282
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Divine Angel said:

Stoners are great for sales. They come in wanting 2 doughnuts and end up leaving with 2 dozen.

It’s the brain damage

I’d rather the stoners as customers than the meth-heads.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:41:18
From: AwesomeO
ID: 542283
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


OTOH marijuana seems to benefit creative people.

I find I really enjoy music (more than I usually do) and will repeat a song and pick out some otherwise unnoticed notes. Later when I straighten up I can still pick out those notes and see why they stood out for me.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:41:18
From: AwesomeO
ID: 542284
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Divine Angel said:


OTOH marijuana seems to benefit creative people.

I find I really enjoy music (more than I usually do) and will repeat a song and pick out some otherwise unnoticed notes. Later when I straighten up I can still pick out those notes and see why they stood out for me.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:41:25
From: dv
ID: 542285
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Maybe these people are heading out to murder someone but they get the munchies.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:42:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 542287
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Both state and federal governments are crying poor. There are fewer people smoking but cigarette taxes are rising. By all means, legalise pot and tax the hell out of it.

(I’m also not a pro-marijuana nut, and I agree with DV about the harm factor compared with alcohol).

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:43:13
From: Dropbear
ID: 542288
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

apathetic lazy people don’t commit as much crime..

im shocked

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:44:11
From: dv
ID: 542289
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Certainly, I would not recommend anyone smokes cannabis more than, say, once a week. Like doughnuts, it is for sometimes, not every day.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:44:17
From: The_observer
ID: 542290
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


Maybe these people are heading out to murder someone but they get the munchies.

thinks about cannibals who smoke pot

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:44:33
From: dv
ID: 542292
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


apathetic lazy people don’t commit as much crime..

im shocked

Also their aim is terrible…

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:44:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 542293
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

>>As far as preferred poisons marijuana is pretty innocuous.

Smoking dope is more dangerous to your health than tobacco, it has the same carcinogenic effect as tobacco plus it adds a mental health risk.
Nearly all governments would ban tobacco if it wasn’t already legal, however some progressive governments are legalising dope, I don’t call them progressives, I call them arseclowns.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:45:10
From: dv
ID: 542294
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


dv said:

Maybe these people are heading out to murder someone but they get the munchies.

thinks about cannibals who smoke pot

cannabils?

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:45:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542295
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


apathetic lazy people don’t commit as much crime..

im shocked

oooh! maximum stereotyping value!

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:45:52
From: AwesomeO
ID: 542297
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

eating is much better health wise, and in my opinion gives you a better high, longer lasting and no wastage. You need to be able to organise yourself as gratification is delayed.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:46:33
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542298
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

I got a credit for database programming

I was stoned all the time doing it

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:46:43
From: dv
ID: 542299
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Peak Warming Man said:


>>As far as preferred poisons marijuana is pretty innocuous.

Smoking dope is more dangerous to your health than tobacco, it has the same carcinogenic effect as tobacco plus it adds a mental health risk.
Nearly all governments would ban tobacco if it wasn’t already legal, however some progressive governments are legalising dope, I don’t call them progressives, I call them arseclowns.

PWM has a point.

It would be better if they ate hash oil brownies.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:46:56
From: Dropbear
ID: 542300
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

CrazyNeutrino said:


I got a credit for database programming

I was stoned all the time doing it

any fucking idiot can work with databases..

wait what?

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:47:29
From: Dropbear
ID: 542301
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


Dropbear said:

apathetic lazy people don’t commit as much crime..

im shocked

oooh! maximum stereotyping value!

sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:48:14
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542302
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

I got a credit for database programming

I was stoned all the time doing it

any fucking idiot can work with databases..

wait what?

Programming

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:50:31
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542306
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

regarding the apathy/lazy claim I would make the point that many pot abusers are so due to the fact that they feel redundant within the community. These are fringe users also and there are a great many people who smoke without anyone being the wiser and with minimal effect on performance.

Lifestyle is the greater factor as far as negative effects and abuse of anything provides as much or more negative result.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:51:51
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542308
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


Postpocelipse said:

Dropbear said:

apathetic lazy people don’t commit as much crime..

im shocked

oooh! maximum stereotyping value!

sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)

making massive assumptions there droppy. Excuse my amused chuckling………. :D

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:52:16
From: MartinB
ID: 542309
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Peak Warming Man said:


>>As far as preferred poisons marijuana is pretty innocuous.

Smoking dope is more dangerous to your health than tobacco, it has the same carcinogenic effect as tobacco plus it adds a mental health risk.

That’s untrue mostly because the volume of smoke consumed by cannabis smokers is an order of magnitude less than that consumed by tobacco smokers.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:52:58
From: dv
ID: 542311
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

If PermeateFree and Postpocelipse are different people then they were separated at birth.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:53:53
From: Dropbear
ID: 542312
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


Dropbear said:

Postpocelipse said:

oooh! maximum stereotyping value!

sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)

making massive assumptions there droppy. Excuse my amused chuckling………. :D

chuckle away.. you’re one of the poster children

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:54:38
From: Dropbear
ID: 542313
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

MartinB said:


Peak Warming Man said:

>>As far as preferred poisons marijuana is pretty innocuous.

Smoking dope is more dangerous to your health than tobacco, it has the same carcinogenic effect as tobacco plus it adds a mental health risk.

That’s untrue mostly because the volume of smoke consumed by cannabis smokers is an order of magnitude less than that consumed by tobacco smokers.

That sounds like of ‘those’ statistics..

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:54:48
From: Boris
ID: 542314
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

i only get off on kava these days cos it is legal and not a drug.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:55:54
From: dv
ID: 542315
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Anyway, I am glad that the Colorado and Washington cases exist because, rather than endlessly arguing about what will happen if cannabis is legalised, we will be able to actually get some more data. We will be able to track their stats (in drug-related crime, incidence of drug-related mental illness, whatever) versus both their previous trends and versus neighbouring states.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:56:12
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542316
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


Postpocelipse said:

Dropbear said:

sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)

making massive assumptions there droppy. Excuse my amused chuckling………. :D

chuckle away.. you’re one of the poster children

if you say so.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:57:00
From: Dropbear
ID: 542317
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


Anyway, I am glad that the Colorado and Washington cases exist because, rather than endlessly arguing about what will happen if cannabis is legalised, we will be able to actually get some more data. We will be able to track their stats (in drug-related crime, incidence of drug-related mental illness, whatever) versus both their previous trends and versus neighbouring states.

true that..

I am glad the socially progressive United States of America is leading us in drug decriminalization and climate change mitigation.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:57:06
From: Boris
ID: 542318
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

it is droppy and it is true. the vast majority of pot smokers would take in far less smoke than the vast majority of tobacco smokers. personal observation of a few decades.

:-)

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:57:19
From: dv
ID: 542319
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


MartinB said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>As far as preferred poisons marijuana is pretty innocuous.

Smoking dope is more dangerous to your health than tobacco, it has the same carcinogenic effect as tobacco plus it adds a mental health risk.

That’s untrue mostly because the volume of smoke consumed by cannabis smokers is an order of magnitude less than that consumed by tobacco smokers.

That sounds like of ‘those’ statistics..

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:57:34
From: Dropbear
ID: 542320
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Boris said:


i only get off on kava these days cos it is legal and not a drug.

have you tasted that stuff??? seriously.. more power to BC that he can pour that stuff down his gob regularly..

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:57:35
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542321
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


If PermeateFree and Postpocelipse are different people then they were separated at birth.

birth separates all people. I won’t take the observation personally however…..

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:58:13
From: Dropbear
ID: 542322
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


Dropbear said:

MartinB said:

That’s untrue mostly because the volume of smoke consumed by cannabis smokers is an order of magnitude less than that consumed by tobacco smokers.

That sounds like of ‘those’ statistics..

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:58:49
From: Boris
ID: 542323
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

i don’t do liquid drugs.

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Date: 4/06/2014 12:59:27
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542324
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

That sounds like of ‘those’ statistics..

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

For that assumption you now owe me 39 joints per day. When can I expect delivery?

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:00:02
From: Dropbear
ID: 542325
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


Dropbear said:

dv said:

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

For that assumption you now owe me 39 joints per day. When can I expect delivery?

when i can be arsed getting off the couch and cleaning up the pizza boxes.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:00:24
From: The_observer
ID: 542327
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

That sounds like of ‘those’ statistics..

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:00:38
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542328
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Boris said:


i don’t do liquid drugs.

hell no!! Have you seen what happens when you boil down just 500ml’s of coke?

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:01:15
From: Boris
ID: 542330
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

the paranoia is a dead giveaway.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:01:18
From: Dropbear
ID: 542331
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Dropbear said:

dv said:

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:01:32
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542332
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


Postpocelipse said:

Dropbear said:

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

For that assumption you now owe me 39 joints per day. When can I expect delivery?

when i can be arsed getting off the couch and cleaning up the pizza boxes.

Think I might do a survey on the harmful effects of fast food deliveries………

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:01:43
From: dv
ID: 542333
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


dv said:

Anyway, I am glad that the Colorado and Washington cases exist because, rather than endlessly arguing about what will happen if cannabis is legalised, we will be able to actually get some more data. We will be able to track their stats (in drug-related crime, incidence of drug-related mental illness, whatever) versus both their previous trends and versus neighbouring states.

true that..

I am glad the socially progressive United States of America is leading us in drug decriminalization and climate change mitigation.

and gay marriage…

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:02:13
From: Dropbear
ID: 542334
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


Dropbear said:

dv said:

Anyway, I am glad that the Colorado and Washington cases exist because, rather than endlessly arguing about what will happen if cannabis is legalised, we will be able to actually get some more data. We will be able to track their stats (in drug-related crime, incidence of drug-related mental illness, whatever) versus both their previous trends and versus neighbouring states.

true that..

I am glad the socially progressive United States of America is leading us in drug decriminalization and climate change mitigation.

and gay marriage…

ummmm

yeh but is ok if we just cuddle?

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:02:16
From: The_observer
ID: 542335
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


The_observer said:

Dropbear said:

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt then

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:03:01
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542336
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


The_observer said:

Dropbear said:

Crazy Neutrino, Posterlips, Observer…

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:05:20
From: The_observer
ID: 542337
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


Dropbear said:

The_observer said:

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

>>>sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)
<<<

I’m thinking small penises

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:05:25
From: Dropbear
ID: 542338
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


Dropbear said:

The_observer said:

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

Nah that’d throw the whole laziness thing

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:05:32
From: Boris
ID: 542339
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:06:19
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542340
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Dropbear said:

The_observer said:

How could you come to the conclusion that I smoke dope

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt then

embrace your cut-snake-like lunacy. anger fogs the mind……..

:P

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:06:50
From: Dropbear
ID: 542342
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Postpocelipse said:

Dropbear said:

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

>>>sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)
<<<

I’m thinking small penises

whatever turns you on…

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:06:57
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542343
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Postpocelipse said:

Dropbear said:

You’re as mad as a cut snake .. Shrug.. I guess it could be genetic..

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

>>>sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)
<<<

I’m thinking small penises

Again?? You think about that a bit have you noticed???

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:07:16
From: The_observer
ID: 542344
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Boris said:


used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:08:17
From: buffy
ID: 542346
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Boris said:

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

I think you know the answer to that from me. I don’t even know what the apparently identifiable smell is like.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:08:22
From: The_observer
ID: 542347
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Dropbear said:


The_observer said:

Postpocelipse said:

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

>>>sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)
<<<

I’m thinking small penises

whatever turns you on…

giggles

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:08:43
From: MartinB
ID: 542348
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


Dropbear said:

MartinB said:

That’s untrue mostly because the volume of smoke consumed by cannabis smokers is an order of magnitude less than that consumed by tobacco smokers.

That sounds like of ‘those’ statistics..

Well come on, apart from Snoop and Willy Nelson, who smokes forty joints a day?

{shrug}. Can always just go to the epidemiological evidence: after many studies no convincing link between cannabis use and lung cancer has been found. (There are links between cannabis use and prostate cancer.)

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:08:50
From: The_observer
ID: 542350
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


The_observer said:

Postpocelipse said:

You could credit that to significant personal effort also.

>>>sometimes the truth hurts..

(and is well evidenced by this forum)
<<<

I’m thinking small penises

Again?? You think about that a bit have you noticed???

giggles some more

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:08:54
From: jjjust moi
ID: 542351
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Boris said:

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?


Me, but my son makes up for that.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:09:59
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542352
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Boris said:


used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

I used to go through a 1/4 of that but since I had work removed I just get by. Should be back on a salary soon though so it won’t hold me back forever. Gotta say I’m impressed that someone can go through a half oz a week with one lung……..

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:10:31
From: buffy
ID: 542354
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

I don’t know how people can afford these things. After I’ve bought my chocolate ration there isn’t any money left….

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:10:49
From: Boris
ID: 542355
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

cheech and chong wedding album ref.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:10:53
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542356
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Boris said:

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

no one that is popularly considered sane…….

:P

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:13:03
From: dv
ID: 542357
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


The_observer said:

Boris said:

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

no one that is popularly considered sane…….

:P

I don’t. Come to think of it, I haven’t taken any illegal drugs during this millennium.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:13:39
From: Dropbear
ID: 542358
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

buffy said:

I don’t know how people can afford these things. After I’ve bought my chocolate ration there isn’t any money left….

caffeine is my narcotic of choice…i find it hard these days to consume enough alcohol to maintain a decent buzz without ill effect in the morning .

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:14:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 542359
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


dv said:

If PermeateFree and Postpocelipse are different people then they were separated at birth.

birth separates all people. I won’t take the observation personally however…..

“But I an innocent” he cried, as they dragged him off to the guillotine.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:14:35
From: furious
ID: 542360
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Being subject to random drug tests at work I make sure I don’t even passive smoke the stuff…

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:15:39
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542361
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

dv said:


Postpocelipse said:

The_observer said:

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

no one that is popularly considered sane…….

:P

I don’t. Come to think of it, I haven’t taken any illegal drugs during this millennium.

Savant style intelligence rarely comes without some sort of lunacy. You might be exceptional……..

:P

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:16:24
From: AwesomeO
ID: 542362
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The_observer said:


Boris said:

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

Me.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:16:49
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542363
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

PermeateFree said:


Postpocelipse said:

dv said:

If PermeateFree and Postpocelipse are different people then they were separated at birth.

birth separates all people. I won’t take the observation personally however…..

“But I an innocent” he cried, as they dragged him off to the guillotine.

You know if you die first I inherit your powers right????????

:P

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:17:04
From: The_observer
ID: 542364
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

AwesomeO said:


The_observer said:

Boris said:

used to go through an oz of dope a week but since i’ve had a lung removed i cut my smoking in half.

is there anybody here who doesn’t smoke dope besides me & PWM ?

Me.

reformed then

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:20:26
From: PermeateFree
ID: 542366
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Postpocelipse said:


PermeateFree said:

Postpocelipse said:

birth separates all people. I won’t take the observation personally however…..

“But I an innocent” he cried, as they dragged him off to the guillotine.

You know if you die first I inherit your powers right????????

:P

Not on your life, I am keeping mine. You never know who you might bump into in a murky corner of Heaven.

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:21:59
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 542368
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

PermeateFree said:


Postpocelipse said:

PermeateFree said:

“But I an innocent” he cried, as they dragged him off to the guillotine.

You know if you die first I inherit your powers right????????

:P

Not on your life, I am keeping mine. You never know who you might bump into in a murky corner of Heaven.

So much for my future Jet Li like fighting skills!!! :O

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Date: 4/06/2014 13:42:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 542372
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Don’t think I’ve smoked any dope since the 1980s.

I wouldn’t mind dropping some acid one day but I’ve never seen it in our IGA.

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Date: 5/06/2014 05:25:54
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 542855
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

The Freakonomics TV show explained that it had been conclusively shown that the continuing drop in the crime rate in New York since 1990 was largely due to the legalization of contraceptives throughout the USA in 1972.

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Date: 5/06/2014 06:09:49
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542863
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

I think a test should be done at a jail to determine if cannabis can lower violence
and I think that test will show that it can

there are two main types of cannabis that people use

1 Cannabis Sativa
2 Cannabis Indica

Cannabis Sativa gets people high and Cannabis Indica gets people very relaxed

use a Cannabis Indica mouth spay on violent inmates then the researchers can take notes

The Difference Between Indica And Sativa Marijuana Plants

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Date: 5/06/2014 06:14:27
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542865
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

CrazyNeutrino said:

I think a test should be done at a jail to determine if cannabis can lower violence
and I think that test will show that it can

there are two main types of cannabis that people use

1 Cannabis Sativa
2 Cannabis Indica

Cannabis Sativa gets people high and Cannabis Indica gets people very relaxed

use a Cannabis Indica mouth spay on violent inmates then the researchers can take notes

The Difference Between Indica And Sativa Marijuana Plants

I would like to see a cannabis indica mouth spray made available to violent spouses to see if it can reduce domestic violence, and I think it would

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Date: 5/06/2014 06:24:12
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542866
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

I think a test should be done at a jail to determine if cannabis can lower violence
and I think that test will show that it can

there are two main types of cannabis that people use

1 Cannabis Sativa
2 Cannabis Indica

Cannabis Sativa gets people high and Cannabis Indica gets people very relaxed

use a Cannabis Indica mouth spay on violent inmates then the researchers can take notes

The Difference Between Indica And Sativa Marijuana Plants

I would like to see a cannabis indica mouth spray made available to violent spouses to see if it can reduce domestic violence, and I think it would

Some tests should be done to see if Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica can reduce suicidal tendency,

My thinking is that with the right amounts suited to the individual it would

start off with a very low dose and then increase it

I think the blending should be with a higher percentage of Indica to Sativa

Sativa the one the gets you high also gives people a sense of optimism and hope,
a kind of dreamy feeling, combined with Indica for a deep relaxing feeling and I think it would help a lot of people with suicidal thoughts

thats my 40 years of experience using it

other people have their head stuck in the sand

but its not for everyone, so only a doctor should prescribe it

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Date: 5/06/2014 06:29:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542867
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I think a test should be done at a jail to determine if cannabis can lower violence
and I think that test will show that it can

there are two main types of cannabis that people use

1 Cannabis Sativa
2 Cannabis Indica

Cannabis Sativa gets people high and Cannabis Indica gets people very relaxed

use a Cannabis Indica mouth spay on violent inmates then the researchers can take notes

The Difference Between Indica And Sativa Marijuana Plants

I would like to see a cannabis indica mouth spray made available to violent spouses to see if it can reduce domestic violence, and I think it would

Some tests should be done to see if Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica can reduce suicidal tendency,

My thinking is that with the right amounts suited to the individual it would

start off with a very low dose and then increase it

I think the blending should be with a higher percentage of Indica to Sativa

Sativa the one the gets you high also gives people a sense of optimism and hope,
a kind of dreamy feeling, combined with Indica for a deep relaxing feeling and I think it would help a lot of people with suicidal thoughts

thats my 40 years of experience using it

other people have their head stuck in the sand

but its not for everyone, so only a doctor should prescribe it

I should add, after proper pharmaceutical testing, etc

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Date: 5/06/2014 06:38:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542868
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

the process should be like this

1 the government passes laws permitting medical cannabis, totally separate to other laws on cannabis

2 licensed growers grow medical cannabis like the opium poppies, grown under strict conditions

3 the medical cannabis plants are then processed by the pharmaceutical industry and made available to chemist dispensaries as a mouth spray or tablet in different doses

4 but only available by doctors prescription

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Date: 5/06/2014 06:42:31
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 542869
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Its unethical keeping a drug that can help people off the market

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Date: 5/06/2014 22:32:36
From: morrie
ID: 543570
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

One good stoner rave deserves another.

Lets look at the actual homicide stats for Denver.

Source:http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Denver-Colorado.html

I have divided the annual rates by 4 to get the quarterly average rates. These numbers cross-correlate with other sources such as:

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/2010archives/XCitywide_Reported_Offenses_2010.pdf

Now, if we look at the statistics, we can see that there is an apparent decrease from around 2004 until 2008 when it kind of levels out at around 8 homicides per quarter. But we aren’t fooled by levelling out. No-siree. A decline is a decline and interpretation of a pause in the decline is, well, disseminating false information, or perhaps some form of criminal activity.

So we can safely assume that the decline in homicides will continue into the future, particularly now that they have legalized pot. So I have projected the decline forward and as you can see, there is likely to be zero homicides in around 2018. Beyond that, there will be a negative homicide rate. What does that mean. Well pilgrims, that means that we will see resurrections. Yes, resurrections! And what will be the cause of that??

JESUS WILL RETURN!!

So, praise THE LORD, now that dope is legal, we will see a new world order, where the spirit of the LORD will prevail. HALLELULJA! AMEN!

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Date: 5/06/2014 22:37:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 543576
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

morrie said:


One good stoner rave deserves another.

Lets look at the actual homicide stats for Denver.

Source:http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Denver-Colorado.html

I have divided the annual rates by 4 to get the quarterly average rates. These numbers cross-correlate with other sources such as:

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/2010archives/XCitywide_Reported_Offenses_2010.pdf

Now, if we look at the statistics, we can see that there is an apparent decrease from around 2004 until 2008 when it kind of levels out at around 8 homicides per quarter. But we aren’t fooled by levelling out. No-siree. A decline is a decline and interpretation of a pause in the decline is, well, disseminating false information, or perhaps some form of criminal activity.

So we can safely assume that the decline in homicides will continue into the future, particularly now that they have legalized pot. So I have projected the decline forward and as you can see, there is likely to be zero homicides in around 2018. Beyond that, there will be a negative homicide rate. What does that mean. Well pilgrims, that means that we will see resurrections. Yes, resurrections! And what will be the cause of that??

JESUS WILL RETURN!!

So, praise THE LORD, now that dope is legal, we will see a new world order, where the spirit of the LORD will prevail. HALLELULJA! AMEN!

So they let you out morrie?

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Date: 5/06/2014 22:39:08
From: tauto
ID: 543578
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Man, you’ve changed.

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Date: 5/06/2014 23:01:36
From: morrie
ID: 543599
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

tauto said:


Man, you’ve changed.

Really? A little satire never went astray.

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Date: 6/06/2014 10:26:29
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 543716
Subject: re: Denver’s Murder Rate WAY Down – Is Legal Weed To Blame?

Medical Marijuana – What’s It Good For?

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