Date: 20/06/2014 16:58:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 549774
Subject: Wikipedia

Wikipedia is the suppository of the most comprehensive compilation of historical record extant.
Where is all that data stored, is it on a single server somewhere and is the backup in the same building?
Imagine all that knowledge, all that wealth e’er gained be lost in a conflagration.

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Date: 20/06/2014 17:00:27
From: transition
ID: 549777
Subject: re: Wikipedia

>all that wealth e’er gained be lost in a conflagration.

they got an enthusiastic ‘tribe’ that resurrect it, ask car what they’re like

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Date: 20/06/2014 17:06:29
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 549781
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Wikipedia employed a single server until 2004, when the server setup was expanded into a distributed multitier architecture. In January 2005, the project ran on 39 dedicated servers in Florida. This configuration included a single master database server running MySQL, multiple slave database servers, 21 web servers running the Apache HTTP Server, and seven Squid cache servers. Wikipedia currently runs on dedicated clusters of Linux servers (mainly Ubuntu), with a few OpenSolaris machines for ZFS. As of December 2009, there were 300 in Florida and 44 in Amsterdam. By January 22, 2013, Wikipedia had migrated its primary data server to an Equinix facility in Ashburn, Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia#Hardware_operations_and_support

Wikipedia knows all.

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Date: 20/06/2014 17:22:26
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 549788
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Also see
How to download a full backup copy of Wikipedia

The figure quoted in that article are a little out of date since it’s from 17 Jan 2012.

please note that the standard English backup of Wikipedia is about 7.5 gigabytes.

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You can also download the Simple English Wikipedia, which is much smaller than the full Wikipedia (about 75 megabytes)

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Date: 20/06/2014 17:24:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 549789
Subject: re: Wikipedia

>>please note that the standard English backup of Wikipedia is about 7.5 gigabytes.

Blimey, that’s not much.

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Date: 20/06/2014 17:29:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 549791
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Peak Warming Man said:


>>please note that the standard English backup of Wikipedia is about 7.5 gigabytes.

Blimey, that’s not much.

Of course, that was before the Morris Dancing article was updated.

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Date: 20/06/2014 19:04:28
From: Ian
ID: 549856
Subject: re: Wikipedia

>>Wikipedia knows all.

No it doesn’t. Why just the other day I saw it contradicting itself in the one sentence.

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Date: 20/06/2014 19:12:47
From: OCDC
ID: 549869
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Pink DKs eclairs are so good that we made mumsy a giant pink eclair birthday cake – pink icing made using Quik. Note the giant box of choccies underneath…

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Date: 20/06/2014 19:13:35
From: OCDC
ID: 549870
Subject: re: Wikipedia

I wasn’t even reading this thread, or so I thought…

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Date: 20/06/2014 19:57:15
From: MartinB
ID: 549951
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Ian said:


>>Wikipedia knows all.

No it doesn’t. Why just the other day I saw it contradicting itself in the one sentence.

And a contradiction implies every proposition. Q.E.D.

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Date: 20/06/2014 20:17:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 549982
Subject: re: Wikipedia

> You can also download the Simple English Wikipedia, which is much smaller than the full Wikipedia (about 75 megabytes)

Was interested so downloaded it. Now 95 megabytes and decompresses to 439 MB .xml file.

Not totally sure what it contains, but it seems to be “latest pages articles” starting with April, August, Art, A, Air, Administrators:Wikipedia, Autonomous communities of Spain, Alan Turing, Alanis Morissette, Adobe Illustrator, Andouille, Farming, Arithmetic, Addition, Albigensian …

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Date: 20/06/2014 21:38:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 550033
Subject: re: Wikipedia

mollwollfumble said:


> You can also download the Simple English Wikipedia, which is much smaller than the full Wikipedia (about 75 megabytes)

Was interested so downloaded it. Now 95 megabytes and decompresses to 439 MB .xml file.

Not totally sure what it contains, but it seems to be “latest pages articles” starting with April, August, Art, A, Air, Administrators:Wikipedia, Autonomous communities of Spain, Alan Turing, Alanis Morissette, Adobe Illustrator, Andouille, Farming, Arithmetic, Addition, Albigensian …

Can’t seem to open it with a web browser. Only a text editor.

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Date: 20/06/2014 21:53:54
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 550036
Subject: re: Wikipedia

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

> You can also download the Simple English Wikipedia, which is much smaller than the full Wikipedia (about 75 megabytes)

Was interested so downloaded it. Now 95 megabytes and decompresses to 439 MB .xml file.

Not totally sure what it contains, but it seems to be “latest pages articles” starting with April, August, Art, A, Air, Administrators:Wikipedia, Autonomous communities of Spain, Alan Turing, Alanis Morissette, Adobe Illustrator, Andouille, Farming, Arithmetic, Addition, Albigensian …

Can’t seem to open it with a web browser. Only a text editor.

Does this help?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers#Can_I_get_Wikipedia_on_CD.2C_or_download_it_for_offline_use.3F

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

I assume you have the full database, so it looks like you’ll need a Web server with PHP & MySQL support, as well as the MediaWiki software to access it properly.

If you don’t want to install those things I guess a general-purpose XML viewer would kinda work; at least, it’d be a bit nicer than reading raw XML in a text editor.

But maybe getting the data in OpenZIM format would be simpler.

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Date: 20/06/2014 21:56:35
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 550037
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Is Solstice Tomorrow Night?

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Date: 20/06/2014 22:06:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 550039
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Here’s a thing about Wiki that most people will never bother themselves to find out – It can easily be manipulated to show wrong information if you’re determined and experienced enough to ‘play the system’ and bog any protest down in process.

I discovered this when, disappointed by Meatloaf’s performance (and outrageous fee) at the AFL Grand Final, I posted a brief summary and links to media articles – Which was quickly removed and I was banned from editing and such. Between the shenanigans of his management company and his fans, the truth never had a hope in hell.

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Date: 20/06/2014 22:10:37
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 550040
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Peak Warming Man said:


>>please note that the standard English backup of Wikipedia is about 7.5 gigabytes.

Blimey, that’s not much.

I’m pretty sure that’s just the text of the articles, with no images.

From ZIM (file format)

The ZIM file format is an open file format that stores wiki content for offline usage. Its primary focus is on the contents of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects. The format allows for the compression of articles using LZMA2 as implemented by the xz-utils library, features a full-text search index and native category and image handling similar to MediaWiki. Unlike the native Wikipedia XML database dumps, the entire file is easily indexable and readable using a program like Kiwix. The Wikipedia XML dump in January 2012 had about 3.8 million articles with no images, and was 7.5 GB; the equivalent ZIM file is 9.7 GB (approximately 30% overhead). In addition to the open file format, the openZIM project provides support for an open source ZIM reader.
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Date: 21/06/2014 09:04:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 550147
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Rule 303 said:


Here’s a thing about Wiki that most people will never bother themselves to find out – It can easily be manipulated to show wrong information if you’re determined and experienced enough to ‘play the system’ and bog any protest down in process.

I discovered this when, disappointed by Meatloaf’s performance (and outrageous fee) at the AFL Grand Final, I posted a brief summary and links to media articles – Which was quickly removed and I was banned from editing and such. Between the shenanigans of his management company and his fans, the truth never had a hope in hell.

You’re a brave and honest man for sharing that.
Meatloaf hey?

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Date: 21/06/2014 09:09:19
From: Tamb
ID: 550148
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Peak Warming Man said:


Rule 303 said:

Here’s a thing about Wiki that most people will never bother themselves to find out – It can easily be manipulated to show wrong information if you’re determined and experienced enough to ‘play the system’ and bog any protest down in process.

I discovered this when, disappointed by Meatloaf’s performance (and outrageous fee) at the AFL Grand Final, I posted a brief summary and links to media articles – Which was quickly removed and I was banned from editing and such. Between the shenanigans of his management company and his fans, the truth never had a hope in hell.

You’re a brave and honest man for sharing that.
Meatloaf hey?


We had a SSSF forumer who vandalised wiki entries. myleftkidney I think.

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Date: 21/06/2014 09:20:58
From: poikilotherm
ID: 550149
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Tamb said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

Here’s a thing about Wiki that most people will never bother themselves to find out – It can easily be manipulated to show wrong information if you’re determined and experienced enough to ‘play the system’ and bog any protest down in process.

I discovered this when, disappointed by Meatloaf’s performance (and outrageous fee) at the AFL Grand Final, I posted a brief summary and links to media articles – Which was quickly removed and I was banned from editing and such. Between the shenanigans of his management company and his fans, the truth never had a hope in hell.

You’re a brave and honest man for sharing that.
Meatloaf hey?


We had a SSSF forumer who vandalised wiki entries. myleftkidney I think.

I think dv does that too. Or fixes it.

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Date: 21/06/2014 09:24:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 550150
Subject: re: Wikipedia

poikilotherm said:


Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’re a brave and honest man for sharing that.
Meatloaf hey?


We had a SSSF forumer who vandalised wiki entries. myleftkidney I think.

I think dv does that too. Or fixes it.

DV is a Wiki Warrior, I think he has a special cape that he puts on when he searches Wiki for errors, perceived or not, and amends them to reflect truth, justice and the Singapore way.

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Date: 21/06/2014 10:53:40
From: Arts
ID: 550157
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Rule 303 said:


Here’s a thing about Wiki that most people will never bother themselves to find out – It can easily be manipulated to show wrong information if you’re determined and experienced enough to ‘play the system’ and bog any protest down in process.

I discovered this when, disappointed by Meatloaf’s performance (and outrageous fee) at the AFL Grand Final, I posted a brief summary and links to media articles – Which was quickly removed and I was banned from editing and such. Between the shenanigans of his management company and his fans, the truth never had a hope in hell.

meatloaf would have a great media manager who would spend their days searching and hiding negative press . Besides which a bad performance is opinion based (even if that opinion is shared by a lot) not fact based.

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Date: 21/06/2014 11:02:24
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 550165
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Arts said:

meatloaf would have a great media manager who would spend their days searching and hiding negative press . Besides which a bad performance is opinion based (even if that opinion is shared by a lot) not fact based.

I don’t think it matters whether it was a good performance or not. The performance was the story with numerous refs to meet the requirement that all information be from legitimate sources.

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Date: 21/06/2014 11:05:31
From: Arts
ID: 550168
Subject: re: Wikipedia

Witty Rejoinder said:


Arts said:

meatloaf would have a great media manager who would spend their days searching and hiding negative press . Besides which a bad performance is opinion based (even if that opinion is shared by a lot) not fact based.

I don’t think it matters whether it was a good performance or not. The performance was the story with numerous refs to meet the requirement that all information be from legitimate sources.

Perhaps Rule should start the ‘Bad Meatloaf” wiki page

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