Why would you design a saucepan lid with a handle that gets just as hot as the the freakin saucepan?

Do people not test this before going into production…?

Two litre milk bottles:
They don’t pour properly when full, they spill all down the side and onto the bench.

I mean it’s 2014, it is simple fluid dynamics, we can’t produce a simple plastic milk bottle spout that pours properly yet we can send humans to the Moon, carry out complex organ transplants, design and build huge skyscrapers…

Geez!

:D

People are stupid

Re: 2L milk bottles – you must be doing it wrong.

party_pants said:

Re: 2L milk bottles – you must be doing it wrong.

What’s there to do wrong….

1. remove lid
2. pour milk into bowl/cup

*I’ve noticed It’s more of a problem when the bottle is full

I don’t know. I just pour milk out of the bottle without it dribbling down the sides and onto the bench.
Maybe you need a more “assertive” pouring style, so the stream breaks away from the lip of the bottle.

Aquila said:

party_pants said:

Re: 2L milk bottles – you must be doing it wrong.

What’s there to do wrong….

1. remove lid
2. pour milk into bowl/cup

*I’ve noticed It’s more of a problem when the bottle is full

you could resort to siphoning the first 250ml’s

:P

party_pants said:

I don’t know. I just pour milk out of the bottle without it dribbling down the sides and onto the bench.
Maybe you need a more “assertive” pouring style, so the stream breaks away from the lip of the bottle.

lol @ ‘more assertive pouring style’

I have tried different approaches to pouring, the “assertive” approach ended up being rather messy!! :D

Do you use Pauls brand milk by any chance?
I noticed the other day after buying the new 2L Zymil that the plastic on the inside of the spout was a different design/shape and it did seem to pour well when full, I will have to check this out further.

Postpocelipse said:

Aquila said:

party_pants said:

Re: 2L milk bottles – you must be doing it wrong.

What’s there to do wrong….

1. remove lid
2. pour milk into bowl/cup

*I’ve noticed It’s more of a problem when the bottle is full

you could resort to siphoning the first 250ml’s

:P

You’re quite the ‘lateral thinker’

;P

Aquila said:

Postpocelipse said:

Aquila said:

What’s there to do wrong….

1. remove lid
2. pour milk into bowl/cup

*I’ve noticed It’s more of a problem when the bottle is full

you could resort to siphoning the first 250ml’s

:P

You’re quite the ‘lateral thinker’

;P

i like options ;)

USB ports on notebooks:

Why have two ports if you can only fit one item in at a time.
ie: thumb drive / usb mdoem / wireless mouse receiver

Here’s an idea, how about moving the USB sockets apart by a few mm’s on the motherboard.
hmmm….just a thought….it’s not rocket science.

>…yet we can send humans to the Moon.

…… it’s been quite a while since humans did that…..

:D

ChrispenEvan said:

I drink a lot of milk. I use Pauls milk at times. I prefer the local Sungold, just because it’s local. The 2 litre containers seem to be the same regardless of brand. I don’t have problems, and I don’t pour fast. As long as you can handle the weight of the container, it seems to me to pour normally. Then again, I mix up my milk half and half with powdered skim milk and water in glass bottles. In my little brain I think it is colder out of glass. I have a collection of 1 litre glass bottles from fruit juice. The one litre fits better in the fridge too, as I can line them up along the right hand wall of the bottom shelf.

Ah, domesticity.

And the cardboard containers are worserer for bad pouring. If the glue hasn’t been done right, you can get a very messy pourer.

We don’t use milk in our house and have UHT in the cupboard for visitors tea/coffee.

However this week with our French visitors I bought a litre of Pauls milk in a bottle and I had the same problem as Aquila. It is not possible to comfortably pick up the bottle without slightly squeezing it so that when you went to pour the milk it overspilled before even getting to the cup/mug :(

Annoying!

The fine motor skills of this forum are concerning. ;)

Spider Lily said:

We don’t use milk in our house and have UHT in the cupboard for visitors tea/coffee.

However this week with our French visitors I bought a litre of Pauls milk in a bottle and I had the same problem as Aquila. It is not possible to comfortably pick up the bottle without slightly squeezing it so that when you went to pour the milk it overspilled before even getting to the cup/mug :(

Annoying!

Try taking the weight of the bottle by curling your fore finger around the neck of the bottle and clamping fore finger to your thumb, lift bottle and tilt to pour using your other hand, do not squeeze the bottle with this hand. ?

Aquila said:

Do you use Pauls brand milk by any chance?

No. Perhaps our milk comes in different style bottles.

> It is not possible to comfortably pick up the bottle without slightly squeezing it so that when you went to pour the milk it overspilled before even getting to the cup/mug :(

Solution: encase bottle in cement and allow to dry before pouring.

Bubblecar said:

> It is not possible to comfortably pick up the bottle without slightly squeezing it so that when you went to pour the milk it overspilled before even getting to the cup/mug :(

Solution: encase bottle in cement and allow to dry before pouring.

Solution 2: locate and attach a pump spray nozzle to bottle

;)

Spider Lily said:

It is not possible to comfortably pick up the bottle without slightly squeezing it so that when you went to pour the milk it overspilled before even getting to the cup/mug :(

Annoying!

Must be a type of bottle specific to your local market then. The ones we get over here you can pick up by the handle and pour it without a drama.

Aquila said:

party_pants said:

I don’t know. I just pour milk out of the bottle without it dribbling down the sides and onto the bench.
Maybe you need a more “assertive” pouring style, so the stream breaks away from the lip of the bottle.

lol @ ‘more assertive pouring style’

I have tried different approaches to pouring, the “assertive” approach ended up being rather messy!! :D

Do you use Pauls brand milk by any chance?
I noticed the other day after buying the new 2L Zymil that the plastic on the inside of the spout was a different design/shape and it did seem to pour well when full, I will have to check this out further.

Liddell’s l-f is heaps cheaper.

Well, I use the handle and never hold the body of the bottle and have no trouble lifting the 2L bottle when full.

In my opinion it is definately the design of the spout which causes a problem with the flow of liquid.

Where’s Mollwollfumble, he’s quite knowledgable on fluid dynamics

But there isn’t a spout. It’s just the top of the bottle. You only get a spout on the smaller cardboard containers.

OCDC said:

Aquila said:

I noticed the other day after buying the new 2L Zymil that the plastic on the inside of the spout was a different design/shape and it did seem to pour well when full, I will have to check this out further.

Liddell’s l-f is heaps cheaper.

Thanks for the tip
I just checked their website to view their brand name/logo design, can’t say I’ve seen this one in my local supe’s but I will definately look out for it, the Pauls Zymil is ~$5.70 for 2L

buffy said:

But there isn’t a spout. It’s just the top of the bottle. You only get a spout on the smaller cardboard containers.

Ok, …..the big hole at the top then :p

Aquila said:

OCDC said:

Aquila said:

I noticed the other day after buying the new 2L Zymil that the plastic on the inside of the spout was a different design/shape and it did seem to pour well when full, I will have to check this out further.

Liddell’s l-f is heaps cheaper.

Thanks for the tip
I just checked their website to view their brand name/logo design, can’t say I’ve seen this one in my local supe’s but I will definately look out for it, the Pauls Zymil is ~$5.70 for 2L

If you don’t mind UHT, it’s very frequently $1.50/L at Coles. When I use it in cooking and stuff, my family can’t tell the difference between fresh and UHT.

More importantly, look at the cheese section – there is now Liddell’s block, grated and sliced cheese, and cream cheese! Plus yoghurt and ice cream. Only thing I am still after is natural or Greek yoghurt – even the plain stuff is sweetened.

OCDC said:

Aquila said:

OCDC said:

Liddell’s l-f is heaps cheaper.

Thanks for the tip
I just checked their website to view their brand name/logo design, can’t say I’ve seen this one in my local supe’s but I will definately look out for it, the Pauls Zymil is ~$5.70 for 2L

If you don’t mind UHT, it’s very frequently $1.50/L at Coles. When I use it in cooking and stuff, my family can’t tell the difference between fresh and UHT.

More importantly, look at the cheese section – there is now Liddell’s block, grated and sliced cheese, and cream cheese! Plus yoghurt and ice cream. Only thing I am still after is natural or Greek yoghurt – even the plain stuff is sweetened.

Thanks, I will look out for the Liddells.
Not too fussed on UHT milk though.

Its possible to make a teapot spout that doesn’t drip

It should be possible to design either a plastic bottle or wax cardboard bottle that does not drip

I have never noticed any poring problems with the 1L wax cardboard containers only the 2L plastic bottles.

The inside edge of the lip on the plastic bottles has a kinda concave/hollow section of the circumference of the opening which must disrupt the flow, when the bottle is full the flow rate/volume, angle of the pour or the momentum/energy from the liquid coming from a different postion within the bottle may have something to do with it…if that makes any sense?

> I mean it’s 2014, it is simple fluid dynamics …

Nobody wanted to pay for CSIRO to investigate and fix it. We would have if asked, I mean, we were helping out with the fluid dynamics of the aeration of Cheezels.

Pet Peeve number 1 is the blasted QWERTY computer keyboard, with it’s shockingly poor key placement, useless keys, unwanted duplication everywhere, and missing keys that I want such as a “bold” key, “italic” key and “second font” key. Doesn’t even have proper multiply and divide-by keys. Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

mollwollfumble said:

Pet Peeve number 1 is the blasted QWERTY computer keyboard, with it’s shockingly poor key placement, useless keys, unwanted duplication everywhere, and missing keys that I want such as a “bold” key, “italic” key and “second font” key. Doesn’t even have proper multiply and divide-by keys. Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

These days you can train your own keyboard and if you cannot move the keys you can get stickers. I know this from defence corporate support that employ a hell of a lot of challenged people.

mollwollfumble said:

Pet Peeve number 1 is the blasted QWERTY computer keyboard, with it’s shockingly poor key placement, useless keys, unwanted duplication everywhere, and missing keys that I want such as a “bold” key, “italic” key and “second font” key. Doesn’t even have proper multiply and divide-by keys. Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

Sounds reasonable to me.

The QWERTY layout was designed so that the old mechanical typewriters didn’t physically get the hammer levers jammed with certain common sequences of letters. That reason is probably out of date now.

I notice that some courier drivers with touch-pad type machines sometimes have the letters in alphabetical order rather than QWERTY layout.

mollwollfumble said:

Pet Peeve number 1 is the blasted QWERTY computer keyboard, with it’s shockingly poor key placement, useless keys, unwanted duplication everywhere, and missing keys that I want such as a “bold” key, “italic” key and “second font” key. Doesn’t even have proper multiply and divide-by keys. Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

I’m fairly sure there are other options. They’re not popular, but they are around.

party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

Pet Peeve number 1 is the blasted QWERTY computer keyboard, with it’s shockingly poor key placement, useless keys, unwanted duplication everywhere, and missing keys that I want such as a “bold” key, “italic” key and “second font” key. Doesn’t even have proper multiply and divide-by keys. Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

Sounds reasonable to me.

The QWERTY layout was designed so that the old mechanical typewriters didn’t physically get the hammer levers jammed with certain common sequences of letters. That reason is probably out of date now.

I notice that some courier drivers with touch-pad type machines sometimes have the letters in alphabetical order rather than QWERTY layout.

Not such a problem with touch screen keyboards today

they can be programmed for anything,

I did see a keyboard design that has little color screens built into each key
costs over a grand though

mollwollfumble said:

Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

Hmm, looking down at my keyboard, it has it has the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 11th, 12th and 13th of those mentioned above.

It may even have a few of the others, but the keys are so dirty and gummed up it is hard to see what they’ve got on them.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Not such a problem with touch screen keyboards today

they can be programmed for anything,

I did see a keyboard design that has little color screens built into each key
costs over a grand though

Where the keypad appears on screen no limit. I purchased a keyboard with my ipad but use it rarely.

Never tried using a keyboard with an alternative layout. Perhaps alphabetical would be easy to adjust to.

I just did a quick search

I found 3 programmable keyboards

the Optimus Maximus keyboard is the one I was thinking about
http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-Maximus-OLED-keyboard-white/sim/B0042FWNMW/2

there are also some other interesting keyboards

the glass touchscreen keyboard by cool leaf looks good
http://www.dynamism.com/gadgets/cool-leaf-keyboard.shtml

the Razer Blade
http://www.citizengame.co.uk/editorial/news/6539/razer-launch-blade

This ad gives me the shits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9iDrhGj6bg

Teleost said:

This ad gives me the shits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9iDrhGj6bg

Chevron’s ad gives me the shights too.

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

Pet Peeve number 1 is the blasted QWERTY computer keyboard, with it’s shockingly poor key placement, useless keys, unwanted duplication everywhere, and missing keys that I want such as a “bold” key, “italic” key and “second font” key. Doesn’t even have proper multiply and divide-by keys. Wikipedia suggests that a keyboard should have “– — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § “ keys as these are the most commonly used symbols not on the QWERTY keyboard.

I’m fairly sure there are other options. They’re not popular, but they are around.

My tablet has handwriting recognition. It’s shit and constantly confuses “k” and “t” but – — ° ′ ″ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § seem to work OK on occasion.

Actually almost never. And anyway, what do you use § for?

Teleost said:

Actually almost never. And anyway, what do you use § for?

When your citations get to ludicrous lengths?

OCDC said:

Liddell’s l-f is heaps cheaper.

I’ve tried one of my local large supermarkets so far, but they don’t stock it.