Date: 4/07/2014 01:40:26
From: party_pants
ID: 554524
Subject: Aircraft near misses videos

A good 15 minutes worth here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4G1Toe3h0

Just in case anyone is interested.

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Date: 4/07/2014 01:47:20
From: party_pants
ID: 554525
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Dg0LxgJH4

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Date: 4/07/2014 07:36:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 554536
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

party_pants said:


A good 15 minutes worth here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4G1Toe3h0

Just in case anyone is interested.

OMG. Thank you for that.

I note that one of the planes had an external camera pointing backwards. Good on you, plane designers. All planes should have one.

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Date: 4/07/2014 08:44:08
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 554540
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

party_pants said:


A good 15 minutes worth here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4G1Toe3h0

Just in case anyone is interested.

always interested in these :-)

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Date: 4/07/2014 08:51:41
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 554542
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

I don’t have any video of it, but back in the late 80’s a TAA 727 missed me (I was in a Piper Tomahawk trainer with a student) apparently missed us by a few tens of feet.
I was looking the other way and didn’t see it unfortunately, but it would have been spectacular.

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Date: 4/07/2014 08:54:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 554545
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

I’ve never had a near miss flying a plane.

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Date: 4/07/2014 08:57:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 554547
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

the most I’ve had is being in one of those powerchutes when the engine cut out at 1000 feet

he tried the other spark plug but to no avail. we tried heading for what looked like a runway but ended up being an RC aircraft club, in the end there was no more glide path and a fence was coming at us, took a gamble landing in long grass

there other parts of this story omitted for various reasons

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Date: 4/07/2014 09:21:10
From: Tamb
ID: 554549
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

wookiemeister said:


the most I’ve had is being in one of those powerchutes when the engine cut out at 1000 feet

he tried the other spark plug but to no avail. we tried heading for what looked like a runway but ended up being an RC aircraft club, in the end there was no more glide path and a fence was coming at us, took a gamble landing in long grass

there other parts of this story omitted for various reasons


I had a nearish miss flying into Bankstown airport under VFR years ago.
Another plane appeared out of nowhere at the wrong altitude & direction. He was far enough away for us to take avoiding action but if we’d spotted him a few seconds later it could have been messy.

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Date: 4/07/2014 09:42:29
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 554553
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve never had a near miss flying a plane.

I have

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Date: 4/07/2014 09:45:19
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 554554
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Spiny Norman said:


I don’t have any video of it, but back in the late 80’s a TAA 727 missed me (I was in a Piper Tomahawk trainer with a student) apparently missed us by a few tens of feet.
I was looking the other way and didn’t see it unfortunately, but it would have been spectacular.

I had a T-28 Trojan warplane line up and take off behind me, on one of my first solo flights.

He overtook me on the right as I climbed out on the upwind leg and the sound of it terrified me.

Phil Unicomb his name was.

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Date: 4/07/2014 09:49:26
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 554556
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

BTW, it’s a near-hit, not a near-miss.

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Date: 4/07/2014 09:51:18
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 554557
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Spiny Norman said:


BTW, it’s a near-hit, not a near-miss.

Good point.

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Date: 4/07/2014 09:51:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 554558
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Spiny Norman said:


BTW, it’s a near-hit, not a near-miss.

I suppose it is relevant as to whether it was hit or miss.

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Date: 4/07/2014 10:06:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 554565
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Skeptic Pete said:


Spiny Norman said:

I don’t have any video of it, but back in the late 80’s a TAA 727 missed me (I was in a Piper Tomahawk trainer with a student) apparently missed us by a few tens of feet.
I was looking the other way and didn’t see it unfortunately, but it would have been spectacular.

I had a T-28 Trojan warplane line up and take off behind me, on one of my first solo flights.

He overtook me on the right as I climbed out on the upwind leg and the sound of it terrified me.

Phil Unicomb his name was.

Reminds me of a trip I did into Bankstown once during the ’89 Pilots Dispute. Sydney Approach had a nasty habit of holding me up high and dropping us into the Bankstown control zone quite late. I was flying an Aerostar 601P and in those you can either go down OR slow down, but not both. Since they’d held us up high I entered the circuit from above doing something like 230 knots. On contacting the tower, they told me that I was # 5 in the circuit, then rattled off the preceding types ahead of me. While they were doing that, I passed two of them and managed to slow to about 200 knots indicated towards the end of the downwind leg.
“Ah, we’re number three in the circuit now and I’m going to need another lap to slow down.”

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Date: 4/07/2014 11:44:46
From: wookiemeister
ID: 554579
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

I got shot down over mucho grande

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Date: 4/07/2014 11:46:16
From: furious
ID: 554580
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Just curious, how close do you have to be for it to be classified as “near”?

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Date: 4/07/2014 11:54:54
From: party_pants
ID: 554581
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

furious said:


Just curious, how close do you have to be for it to be classified as “near”?

Closer than what air traffic control would like them apart?

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Date: 4/07/2014 11:56:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 554582
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Spiny Norman said:


Skeptic Pete said:

Spiny Norman said:

I don’t have any video of it, but back in the late 80’s a TAA 727 missed me (I was in a Piper Tomahawk trainer with a student) apparently missed us by a few tens of feet.
I was looking the other way and didn’t see it unfortunately, but it would have been spectacular.

I had a T-28 Trojan warplane line up and take off behind me, on one of my first solo flights.

He overtook me on the right as I climbed out on the upwind leg and the sound of it terrified me.

Phil Unicomb his name was.

Reminds me of a trip I did into Bankstown once during the ’89 Pilots Dispute. Sydney Approach was a hot zone of anti aircraft fire from the no fly zone set up by the residents organisations. we lost an engine at 3000ft when the aircraft in the searchlights set up in the parks around Leichardt. so there I was my shirt bathed in sweat as we came and all of a sudden the guns fell silent. air traffic control seemed a little too cheery. tracers raced past the cockpit and instinctively banked hard left spilling an assortment of soft drinks, hard liquor and complimentary toys in the passenger hold.

breathless a buxom stewardess broken into the cabin and lunged over me

“not now you fool, can’t you see I’m busy as I weaved a treacherous path of flying ammunition” I bellowed as the aircraft was milked to within an inch of its operating guidelines

“captain, the rear gunner has reported a bandit sat on your tail 12 o’clock high – he’s folded his table up and returned his seat to the upright position and returning fire until his parents return from the loo!”

it was a desperate situation, a gammy engine, searchlights a night fighter on my tail. all in all it was going to be a long night.

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Date: 4/07/2014 12:00:26
From: furious
ID: 554583
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

I was kind of after a metric unit determination…

I ask because I was on an interstate flight a couple of years ago with the plane I was in heading East and I had a left hand side window seat. Staring absently out the window I was suddenly surprised when another plane came into view, flying slightly lower, heading in the opposite direction. Due to the relative speeds of both craft it was only in frame for a very short time but that was long enough to determine it was a Virgin flight . We were above clouds so I obviously had nothing to give it any perspective but given the apparent size I would have to say that it was uncomfortably close.

Granted “uncomfortably close” is also not a metric unit but I would consider it to be within 1 Closer-than-what-air-traffic-control-would-like-them-apart…

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Date: 4/07/2014 12:02:48
From: wookiemeister
ID: 554584
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

furious said:

  • Closer than what air traffic control would like them apart?

I was kind of after a metric unit determination…

I ask because I was on an interstate flight a couple of years ago with the plane I was in heading East and I had a left hand side window seat. Staring absently out the window I was suddenly surprised when another plane came into view, flying slightly lower, heading in the opposite direction. Due to the relative speeds of both craft it was only in frame for a very short time but that was long enough to determine it was a Virgin flight . We were above clouds so I obviously had nothing to give it any perspective but given the apparent size I would have to say that it was uncomfortably close.

Granted “uncomfortably close” is also not a metric unit but I would consider it to be within 1 Closer-than-what-air-traffic-control-would-like-them-apart…


you can see the brand of the pilots sun glasses – aviator obviusly

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Date: 4/07/2014 12:06:10
From: jjjust moi
ID: 554585
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Seems it is variable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_(air_traffic_control)

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Date: 4/07/2014 12:07:22
From: wookiemeister
ID: 554586
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

wookiemeister said:


Spiny Norman said:

Skeptic Pete said:

I had a T-28 Trojan warplane line up and take off behind me, on one of my first solo flights.

He overtook me on the right as I climbed out on the upwind leg and the sound of it terrified me.

Phil Unicomb his name was.

Reminds me of a trip I did into Bankstown once during the ’89 Pilots Dispute. Sydney Approach was a hot zone of anti aircraft fire from the no fly zone set up by the residents organisations. we lost an engine at 3000ft when the aircraft in the searchlights set up in the parks around Leichardt. so there I was my shirt bathed in sweat as we came and all of a sudden the guns fell silent. air traffic control seemed a little too cheery. tracers raced past the cockpit and instinctively banked hard left spilling an assortment of soft drinks, hard liquor and complimentary toys in the passenger hold.

breathless a buxom stewardess broken into the cabin and lunged over me

“not now you fool, can’t you see I’m busy as I weaved a treacherous path of flying ammunition” I bellowed as the aircraft was milked to within an inch of its operating guidelines

“captain, the rear gunner has reported a bandit sat on your tail 12 o’clock high – he’s folded his table up and returned his seat to the upright position and returning fire until his parents return from the loo!”

it was a desperate situation, a gammy engine, searchlights a night fighter on my tail. all in all it was going to be a long night.


actually I’ve had a few warbirds on my tail in the past

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Date: 4/07/2014 12:17:16
From: furious
ID: 554589
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

We were at cruising altitude, and they were lower, so I guess this one might apply:

“Above 29,000 feet (8,800 m), no aircraft shall come closer than 600 m”

And it is hard to judge if they were greater than 600m lower than us but in all my years of flying it is the closest I have ever seen another flight whilst cruising…

And if I had to guess, I would say that their horizontal displacement from us was of a similar magnitude to the vertical displacement. But like I said, perspective was difficult to judge…

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Date: 4/07/2014 16:07:02
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 554681
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Lucky escape: Plane narrowly misses German sunbather

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Date: 4/07/2014 16:13:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 554683
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

Low-Flying Plane Picks up Flags from Ground (Video)

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Date: 4/07/2014 16:22:48
From: party_pants
ID: 554685
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

CrazyNeutrino said:


Low-Flying Plane Picks up Flags from Ground (Video)

404 on that one.

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Date: 4/07/2014 16:57:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 554696
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

party_pants said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Low-Flying Plane Picks up Flags from Ground (Video)

404 on that one.

Try this

Low-Flying Plane Picks up Flags from Ground

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Date: 4/07/2014 22:54:53
From: Speedy
ID: 554921
Subject: re: Aircraft near misses videos

NATS 24 hour European flight path visualisation

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