Date: 12/07/2014 21:41:13
From: Muschee
ID: 558588
Subject: Diatomaceous Earth

Hi Everyone, hope you’re all well and happy.

Just discovered DE a while back and wonder if any of my other green buddies are into it?????

Started giving it to my fur babies and feathered friends.

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Date: 12/07/2014 22:30:40
From: buffy
ID: 558601
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

You might be wise to read some information about it from the skeptical viewpoint:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=270399

In essence, it is chemically inert in the human. So it can’t really do anything. And we have small amounts anyway in toothpaste and flour, from a bit of reading. It’s quite good at killing insects by scratching the exoskeleton and dehydrating them. And apparently it’s used in pool filters too.

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Date: 12/07/2014 22:32:01
From: buffy
ID: 558602
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

And here is a nice easy to read summary:

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-diatomaceous-earth.htm

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Date: 13/07/2014 20:36:53
From: Tam
ID: 559001
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

The one you give to animals is totally different to the pool earth.

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Date: 13/07/2014 20:41:29
From: buffy
ID: 559005
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

Tam said:


The one you give to animals is totally different to the pool earth.

I think you will find it is all the same chemical. A silicate. Fossil sea animals.

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Date: 13/07/2014 20:43:38
From: buffy
ID: 559006
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

From the wisegeek link:

“While science fiction authors might suggest that fossils are best used to clone dinosaurs, diatomaceous earth shows us that fossils have a great number of uses in day to day living. Diatoms are tiny, single-celled algae found in plankton. Diatomaceous earth is a fine, white, crystalline powder made up of the fossilized shells of diatoms. Lightweight, gritty, and porous, it finds a surprising array of uses.”

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Date: 13/07/2014 21:05:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 559009
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

Tam said:


The one you give to animals is totally different to the pool earth.

The type given to humans is.

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Date: 13/07/2014 21:10:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 559011
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

roughbarked said:


Tam said:

The one you give to animals is totally different to the pool earth.

The type given to humans is.

from the wisegeeks link: .
Even though it is non-toxic, people should never attempt to treat themselves with diatomaceous earth, either externally or internally. Medical professionals use a special medical grade in cases in which it is used on patients.

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Date: 13/07/2014 22:25:18
From: Muschee
ID: 559023
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

Ok so now I’m more confused than ever…..would be nice to find some solid proof of pro’s
& con’s

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Date: 14/07/2014 00:54:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 559060
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

Muschee said:


Ok so now I’m more confused than ever…..would be nice to find some solid proof of pro’s
& con’s

The pro’s are that if you want to filter your pool or clean your teeth.

Cons would be too much of anything may not be all that good for you.

ie; if a doctor prescribed it then it would be because the doctor thought you needed it.

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Date: 14/07/2014 07:20:43
From: buffy
ID: 559089
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

Like a lot of supplements on the Web, it’s a good way of lining someone else’s pocket with money. I hadn’t heard of it for eating/supplementation, but a fly around medical websites only really found it used medically for treating worm infestations (I think). It is recognized as useful in some foods for particular uses and therefore not harmful:

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“There is no evidence in the available information on aluminum calcium silicate, calcium silicate, magnesium silicate, potassium silicate, sodium silicate, sodium aluminosilicate, sodium calcium aluminosilicate, tricalcium silicate, silica aerogel, and talc that demonstrates or suggests reasonable grounds to suspect a hazard to the public when they are used at levels that are now current or that might reasonably be expected in the future. There is no evidence in the available information on diatomaceous earth, silicon dioxides, sodium silicate, and talc that demonstrates or suggests reasonable grounds to suspect a hazard to the public when they are used as ingredients of paper and paperboard products used in food packaging in accordance with current practice. There is no evidence in the available information on sodium silicate and talc that demonstrates or suggests reasonable grounds to suspect a hazard to the public when they are used as ingredients of cotton and cotton fabrics used in dry food packaging in accordance with current practice. There is no evidence in the available information on diatomaceous earth and perlite that demonstrates or suggests reasonable ground to suspect a hazard to the public when they are used as filteraids in food processing at levels that are now current or that might reasonably be expected in the future.”

ref: http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/GRAS/SCOGS/ucm261274.htm

The FDA is the American Food and Drug people.

It would appear from the other links I’ve put up that the stuff is inert in the human gut. That means it does nothing. Chemically or otherwise. Like eating sand really.

So why would you supplement with it?

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Date: 14/07/2014 10:56:56
From: bluegreen
ID: 559166
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

I know some people use it for their chooks as a parasite control, but I thought it was used externally not internally. It is abrasive on the hard shell of the parasite so that they die, but presumable has no affect on soft tissue?

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Date: 14/07/2014 11:27:55
From: Dinetta
ID: 559181
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

I read to use it as dustbathing material, and then some years later (like the last 2 months) I read where it’s of no benefit as such…didn’t get into depth with it…

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Date: 14/07/2014 14:10:54
From: buffy
ID: 559203
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

More information:

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/degen.html

You can link on to the references if you want.

It’s not absorbed by the body, just goes through.

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Date: 14/07/2014 14:19:00
From: buffy
ID: 559205
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

By the way, looking at the ads from people selling this as a dietary supplement, so far I’ve found someone calling it ‘organic’ (it can’t be, no carbon) and another calling it ‘chemical free’. Huh? It’s silicates for goodness sake.

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Date: 14/07/2014 18:43:50
From: Teleost
ID: 559302
Subject: re: Diatomaceous Earth

You should make sure you wear some form of respirator – or at least a dust mask when handling the dry product..

Silicosis not exactly the most fun thing in the world. I have no idea why someone would want to eat it.i

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