Date: 14/07/2014 22:47:32
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 559533
Subject: Preventing bird strike

What if airplanes and wind turbines had LED’s around them

you could put LEDs on the end of Wind Turbines blades

and LEDs could be placed around the cowling of the air intakes on planes

doing research onto what sort of lights/frequencies might take a bit of work to figure out

thoughts?

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Date: 14/07/2014 22:52:53
From: Stealth
ID: 559536
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

A jet doing 300+km/h is going to hit a bird whether the bird sees the pretty LEDs or not.

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Date: 14/07/2014 22:59:19
From: AwesomeO
ID: 559537
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

Stealth said:


A jet doing 300+km/h is going to hit a bird whether the bird sees the pretty LEDs or not.

Put a cage around them, not going to stop the wind. Paint it whatever birds think hi viz is.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:02:20
From: Stealth
ID: 559539
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

AwesomeO said:


Stealth said:

A jet doing 300+km/h is going to hit a bird whether the bird sees the pretty LEDs or not.

Put a cage around them, not going to stop the wind. Paint it whatever birds think hi viz is.


That may work if you think hitting a weldmesh cage at 300+km/h is a better outcome than going through the turbine… from the birds point of veiw of course, the OP read to me being about protecting the bird, not the turbine.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:04:32
From: JudgeMental
ID: 559540
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

cage around wind turbines i think not aircraft engines.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:09:50
From: AwesomeO
ID: 559541
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

Stealth said:


AwesomeO said:

Stealth said:

A jet doing 300+km/h is going to hit a bird whether the bird sees the pretty LEDs or not.

Put a cage around them, not going to stop the wind. Paint it whatever birds think hi viz is.


That may work if you think hitting a weldmesh cage at 300+km/h is a better outcome than going through the turbine… from the birds point of veiw of course, the OP read to me being about protecting the bird, not the turbine.

Birds fly at 300kmh now? Birds smash into windows here when I have a door open, they think they can fly through. You hear a bang and investigate and find a stunned bird. They fly off though.

You could have an exclusion zone for birds. Would cost a bit though. Or you could have power companies to do all they can plus donate a shed load to conservation and raptor rescue services. Make the statement, the nature of our operations is that birds die so we mitigate it thus…

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:11:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 559542
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

AwesomeO said:


Stealth said:

AwesomeO said:

Put a cage around them, not going to stop the wind. Paint it whatever birds think hi viz is.


That may work if you think hitting a weldmesh cage at 300+km/h is a better outcome than going through the turbine… from the birds point of veiw of course, the OP read to me being about protecting the bird, not the turbine.

Birds fly at 300kmh now? Birds smash into windows here when I have a door open, they think they can fly through. You hear a bang and investigate and find a stunned bird. They fly off though.

You could have an exclusion zone for birds. Would cost a bit though. Or you could have power companies to do all they can plus donate a shed load to conservation and raptor rescue services. Make the statement, the nature of our operations is that birds die so we mitigate it thus…

Build the birds an underpass.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:14:36
From: AwesomeO
ID: 559543
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

Stealth said:

That may work if you think hitting a weldmesh cage at 300+km/h is a better outcome than going through the turbine… from the birds point of veiw of course, the OP read to me being about protecting the bird, not the turbine.

Birds fly at 300kmh now? Birds smash into windows here when I have a door open, they think they can fly through. You hear a bang and investigate and find a stunned bird. They fly off though.

You could have an exclusion zone for birds. Would cost a bit though. Or you could have power companies to do all they can plus donate a shed load to conservation and raptor rescue services. Make the statement, the nature of our operations is that birds die so we mitigate it thus…

Build the birds an underpass.

Land bridges and underpasses are not to be laughed at. There may be a sky bridge or exclusion zone arial equivalent to be discovered.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:14:54
From: sibeen
ID: 559544
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

JudgeMental said:


cage around wind turbines i think not aircraft engines.

Are you people mad?

It’s a well known fact that any form of structure that covers a wind turbine will INCREASE & CONCENTRATE the harmful AURAL WAVES that induce Wind Turbine Syndrome.

Yes, it may save the birds, but people will succumb, mark my words.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:16:15
From: party_pants
ID: 559545
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

sibeen said:


Are you people mad?

It’s a well known fact that any form of structure that covers a wind turbine will INCREASE & CONCENTRATE the harmful AURAL WAVES that induce Wind Turbine Syndrome.

Yes, it may save the birds, but people will succumb, mark my words.

Well yes, actually I am

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:16:20
From: JudgeMental
ID: 559546
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

not any capslock sibeen. sheesh. 2/10

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:16:42
From: JudgeMental
ID: 559547
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

well only a couple.

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:17:45
From: jjjust moi
ID: 559548
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

cage around wind turbines i think not aircraft engines.

Are you people mad?

It’s a well known fact that any form of structure that covers a wind turbine will INCREASE & CONCENTRATE the harmful AURAL WAVES that induce Wind Turbine Syndrome.

Yes, it may save the birds, but people will succumb, mark my words.


Sage!

Do you have a newsletter?

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Date: 14/07/2014 23:18:32
From: sibeen
ID: 559550
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

JudgeMental said:


well only a couple.

So a three then?

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Date: 15/07/2014 08:49:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 559589
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

You have a roo shoo mounted on the aircraft that sends out a sound that birds can hear

It fans out in a cone in front if the aircraft

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Date: 15/07/2014 09:33:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 559591
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

Strike first, use LASER.

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Date: 15/07/2014 09:58:28
From: Speedy
ID: 559594
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

Pfft … this is an easy one. Don’t wash them, ever, esp. the windows. Also, don’t paint them blue or white so the birds will be able to see them coming.

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Date: 15/07/2014 11:30:26
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 559600
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

CrazyNeutrino said:


What if airplanes and wind turbines had LED’s around them

you could put LEDs on the end of Wind Turbines blades

and LEDs could be placed around the cowling of the air intakes on planes

doing research onto what sort of lights/frequencies might take a bit of work to figure out

thoughts?

Nothing has worked so far, so give it a go and expect that it won’t work either.

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Date: 15/07/2014 13:10:47
From: dv
ID: 559641
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

I recently travelled on a propeller-propelled aircraft for the first time in, oh, fifteen years.

It strikes me (NPI) that there ought to be less chance that a goose would down (NPI) a prop-plane rather than a jet-plane. Would I be right?

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Date: 15/07/2014 14:16:19
From: JTQ
ID: 559667
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike
re: Preventing bird strike

Has anyone spoken to the bird union?

(someone had to say it)

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Date: 15/07/2014 14:27:37
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 559668
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

JTQ said:



re: Preventing bird strike

Has anyone spoken to the bird union?

(someone had to say it)

Union action among birds is complicated by class hierarchies. Raptors are believed to maintain mob type control of union efforts although only vultures and buzzards are ever actually seen interacting at meetings. Crows oppose representation of the working class due to their religious beliefs in various forms of abstinence. Hedge birds have long been connected to the Raptors gambling networks but more contemporary families are finding entrepreneurial success in various areas. Scrub fowl continue to be ridiculed and maligned by the cockatoos, parrots and galahs……………

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Date: 15/07/2014 14:41:16
From: PermeateFree
ID: 559674
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

Wonders if a recording of screeching of birds of prey were played along the runway before planes landed or took off would work?

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Date: 15/07/2014 14:43:01
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 559675
Subject: re: Preventing bird strike

PermeateFree said:


Wonders if a recording of screeching of birds of prey were played along the runway before planes landed or took off would work?

probably would but the raptors would definitely demand royalties and they aren’t known to forgive debts………

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