Date: 19/08/2014 13:04:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 579134
Subject: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

I have promised J1 that I would look this up, her citrus have yellow leaves. IMO it’s from watering, 24/7/365…J2 spread some custom citrus feeder around, but I told J1 that Epsom Salts, around the feeder line, would also help.

You are my first port of call…

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Date: 19/08/2014 13:13:25
From: bluegreen
ID: 579144
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Dinetta said:


I have promised J1 that I would look this up, her citrus have yellow leaves. IMO it’s from watering, 24/7/365…J2 spread some custom citrus feeder around, but I told J1 that Epsom Salts, around the feeder line, would also help.

You are my first port of call…

Epsom Salts = magnesium, not boron, but yes, yellowing leaves can be an indication of magnesium deficiency. Could also be an iron deficiency so some Iron Chelates might be indicated, especially of the leaves are yellow with green veins. If it is just the older leaves that are yellowing but new ones are green then more nitrogen.

I agree that continuous watering can leach away nutrients.

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Date: 19/08/2014 13:16:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 579151
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

I have promised J1 that I would look this up, her citrus have yellow leaves. IMO it’s from watering, 24/7/365…J2 spread some custom citrus feeder around, but I told J1 that Epsom Salts, around the feeder line, would also help.

You are my first port of call…

Epsom Salts = magnesium, not boron, but yes, yellowing leaves can be an indication of magnesium deficiency. Could also be an iron deficiency so some Iron Chelates might be indicated, especially of the leaves are yellow with green veins. If it is just the older leaves that are yellowing but new ones are green then more nitrogen.

I agree that continuous watering can leach away nutrients.

Thanks BlueGreen, I’ll have a look at her leaves…they’ve been yellow since Christmas, the fruit was not very good.

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Date: 19/08/2014 21:50:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 579430
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Dinetta said:


I have promised J1 that I would look this up, her citrus have yellow leaves. IMO it’s from watering, 24/7/365…J2 spread some custom citrus feeder around, but I told J1 that Epsom Salts, around the feeder line, would also help.

You are my first port of call…

Firstly, Epsom salts is Magnesium sulphate. Not Boron.

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Date: 19/08/2014 22:11:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 579450
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Also many citrus orchardists use folair sprays of manganese and zinc.

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Date: 20/08/2014 06:56:26
From: buffy
ID: 579495
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Maybe it just needs a good mulching with old chook poo and straw. They are gross feeders. I chuck a bit of citrus food around, but our lemon tree sits next to the gravel pit where our grey water goes. So it gets food from there. At our previous place we had one planted down on the septic outflow. Again, nice foody water. I have also used washing soda to green up the leaves sometimes.

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Date: 20/08/2014 07:03:09
From: buffy
ID: 579496
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

This might be useful:

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture/citrus

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Date: 20/08/2014 07:56:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 579505
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Thanks all, I had a look at that site Buffy, some good info there.

OK Epsom salts is not Boron…whoops…now I know…

I really do think J1’s problem is she waters those trees 24/7/365…She’s a chook poo enthusiast (but I“m keeping mine) so maybe she needs to provide her trees with a dose of this as well…around the drip line…if she’s watering direc tly against the tree trunk I don’t see how the fertiliser is being incorporated into the soil, as it’s been such a dry two years so far…

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Date: 20/08/2014 08:31:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 579511
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Dinetta said:


Thanks all, I had a look at that site Buffy, some good info there.

OK Epsom salts is not Boron…whoops…now I know…

I really do think J1’s problem is she waters those trees 24/7/365…She’s a chook poo enthusiast (but I“m keeping mine) so maybe she needs to provide her trees with a dose of this as well…around the drip line…if she’s watering direc tly against the tree trunk I don’t see how the fertiliser is being incorporated into the soil, as it’s been such a dry two years so far…


Yes we have discussed this before.
Buffy’s comment about spreading mulch is good as long as the mulch isn’t too thick. I mulched mine once in 35 years. Sure they need it again but they aren’t yellow. I never water my citrus trees at all other than water they may get by me attempting to grow other things nearby. As Buffy knows, my annual average is not more than 400 mm.

I’d ask J1 to unhook the drips on one tree and put a micro sprinkler or two so that they water the drip zone. See if it puts the other trees to shame.

Citrus are gross surface feeders but the application of fertilisers is better at certain times of year than other. Again I’ve never consciously, deliberately put any fertiliser on my citrus since the first application when I planted them.

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Date: 20/08/2014 11:29:56
From: Dinetta
ID: 579643
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

roughbarked said:


Yes we have discussed this before.
Buffy’s comment about spreading mulch is good as long as the mulch isn’t too thick. I mulched mine once in 35 years. Sure they need it again but they aren’t yellow. I never water my citrus trees at all other than water they may get by me attempting to grow other things nearby. As Buffy knows, my annual average is not more than 400 mm.

I’d ask J1 to unhook the drips on one tree and put a micro sprinkler or two so that they water the drip zone. See if it puts the other trees to shame.

Citrus are gross surface feeders but the application of fertilisers is better at certain times of year than other. Again I’ve never consciously, deliberately put any fertiliser on my citrus since the first application when I planted them.

Thanks RoughBarked…your seasons are similar to mine, aren’t they? Cold dry winters and hot wet summers…not the Mediterranean climate that citrus is native to?

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Date: 20/08/2014 11:35:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 579650
Subject: re: Boron (Epsom Salts) on Citrus

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

Yes we have discussed this before.
Buffy’s comment about spreading mulch is good as long as the mulch isn’t too thick. I mulched mine once in 35 years. Sure they need it again but they aren’t yellow. I never water my citrus trees at all other than water they may get by me attempting to grow other things nearby. As Buffy knows, my annual average is not more than 400 mm.

I’d ask J1 to unhook the drips on one tree and put a micro sprinkler or two so that they water the drip zone. See if it puts the other trees to shame.

Citrus are gross surface feeders but the application of fertilisers is better at certain times of year than other. Again I’ve never consciously, deliberately put any fertiliser on my citrus since the first application when I planted them.

Thanks RoughBarked…your seasons are similar to mine, aren’t they? Cold dry winters and hot wet summers…not the Mediterranean climate that citrus is native to?


Wrong.
I’m in a sub-Mediterranean climate.. er; that’s upside down. We are the citrus heaven of Australia. We can also irrigate in the hotter months if we need to. Ours is a drier climate than the average Mediterranean with less summer rain and probably less winter rain but most of our moisture hangs about in winter rather than summer.

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