Fortuneately they aren’t all deadly

I did read something about religion being passed on in DNA

it might be possible through a learned behavior continued over thousands of years

But I dont really know

But yes religion does seem to be a disease

A disease that creates nut cases

No.

But I suspect that believers’ brains are wired differently to non-believers’ brains. Whether that is nature or nurture I don’tknow.

party_pants said:

No.

But I suspect that believers’ brains are wired differently to non-believers’ brains. Whether that is nature or nurture I don’tknow.

I expect that is the case for ideologies other than religion as well.

party_pants said:

No.

But I suspect that believers’ brains are wired differently to non-believers’ brains. Whether that is nature or nurture I don’tknow.

Getting epilepsy is a known cause of religiosity…I think the seven day bike riders started that way.

There are extremist nutjobs in all walks of life. They are easily noticed because they are often seeking attention. There are plenty of religiously inclined who lead entirely normal lives making entirely normal decisions.

Seems more relevant to question what promotes extremist thinking. IMO

Postpocelipse said:

Seems more relevant to question what promotes extremist thinking. IMO

Commodification of resources is the religion of business. Can greed be designated as a mental disorder?

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

Seems more relevant to question what promotes extremist thinking. IMO

Commodification of resources is the religion of business. Can greed be designated as a mental disorder?

Greed is one of the seven deadly sins. Sin is not a logical thing to do so greed could be argued to be a mental disorder.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

No.

But I suspect that believers’ brains are wired differently to non-believers’ brains. Whether that is nature or nurture I don’tknow.

I expect that is the case for ideologies other than religion as well.

Religious belief seems to be based on primal fears, namely that of death (afterlife if you believe) and punishment for transgression (sinning good way to keep the flock of sheep in line, especially for original sin your damned just by being born)
Also feeling part of a community, I wonder how many loners who prefer their own company need religion

bob(from black rock) said:

Fortuneately they aren’t all deadly

I suspect they are the manifestation of a current or past breakdown

I don’t think you could call religion a mental disease.

believing in some religions might be a mental disease.

Religion can become a mentally unhealthy obsession though.

When you talk to an invisible friend, they call it a mental illness…

When the invisible friend talks back, they call it religion…

Peak Warming Man said:

Religion can become a mentally unhealthy obsession though.

How is it that when god speaks to some people they are prophets and others are mentally ill.

stumpy_seahorse said:

When you talk to an invisible friend, they call it a mental illness…

When the invisible friend talks back, they call it religion…

umm..

roughbarked said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

When you talk to an invisible friend, they call it a mental illness…

When the invisible friend talks back, they call it religion…

umm..

in your case RB, i’m sure they’d make an exception

Ecky Thump (DSO KGB PMT with bar) once told me that everyone should have an imaginary friend.
I’ve never forgotten that.

Peak Warming Man said:

Ecky Thump (DSO KGB PMT with bar) once told me that everyone should have an imaginary friend.
I’ve never forgotten that.

If you have imaginary friends are imaginary enemies then compulsory?

It

Ive changed my opinion

It seems to be more of a behavioral problem than a disease I think

Humans when young can be easily filled up with ideas that are unproductive

so unproductive it can lead them to murder others

Here is some background information on ISIS

Islamic State explained: Jihadist group fighting in Iraq, Syria

this video explains ISIS

Explained: The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)

This article explains the hierarchy of ISIS religious leaders

Iraq crisis: Could an ISIS caliphate ever govern the entire Muslim world?

I wonder how hypocritical the leader of ISIS are?, probably whoremonger drug using capitalists in secret

Cymek said:

I wonder how hypocritical the leader of ISIS are?, probably whoremonger drug using capitalists in secret

You would dare slander the Iman? A Jihaad on you and a camel pox on your offspring!!!!

Postpocelipse said:

Cymek said:

I wonder how hypocritical the leader of ISIS are?, probably whoremonger drug using capitalists in secret

You would dare slander the “Imam”? A Jihaad on you and a camel pox on your offspring!!!!

fixed

What we are seeing around the world are a lot of men who involve themselves in other countries conflicts

call them mercenaries or freedom fighters, other names

they all want to do one thing

kill people

they go after the thrill of killing people using other countries conflicts to commit crimes against humanity

Poor PWM.

His imaginary friend told me he needs another imaginary friend yet he’s worried that “some” people might be becoming obsessed with religion.

CrazyNeutrino said:

What we are seeing around the world are a lot of men who involve themselves in other countries conflicts

call them mercenaries or freedom fighters, other names

they all want to do one thing

kill people

they go after the thrill of killing people using other countries conflicts to commit crimes against humanity

I think it generally has less to do with a desire to kill and more to do with escalating inequality and feeling oppressed. The riots in St Louis haven’t eased up that I have heard. The industrial sector thrives on keeping third world countries where they are. As much as someone might try to disguise it, predatory actions will inevitably lead to revolutionary ideals…..

Skeptic Pete said:

Poor PWM.

His imaginary friend told me he needs another imaginary friend yet he’s worried that “some” people might be becoming obsessed with religion.

Well there’s about 10,000 ISIS followers who are obsesses with religion

so obsessed they are killiig people

these religious leaders call them what you will imams caliphates gather people to preach and pray

others seek out young men and “train them” to become very obsessive about ISLAM

they train them also to kill people, raid towns, steal money, abduct and kidnap people for their purposes

that journalist who was abducted two years ago, they now used him on the media to execute him when they are losing control, he was their tool unfortunately

A very obsessive religion, very unfriendly aren’t they.

“how does a virgin birth happen i mean once the baby is being born the hymen has to break bing bang boom no virgin and baby still not entirely born”

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What we are seeing around the world are a lot of men who involve themselves in other countries conflicts

call them mercenaries or freedom fighters, other names

they all want to do one thing

kill people

they go after the thrill of killing people using other countries conflicts to commit crimes against humanity

I think it generally has less to do with a desire to kill and more to do with escalating inequality and feeling oppressed. The riots in St Louis haven’t eased up that I have heard. The industrial sector thrives on keeping third world countries where they are. As much as someone might try to disguise it, predatory actions will inevitably lead to revolutionary ideals…..

These Jihadists aren’t fighting to stop inequality or oppression, they don’t like the fact that people are waking up and realising they don’t have to be under the yoke of religion anymore. They are fighting to maintain a male dominated caste type system were they are at the top and can tell others (especially women and girls) how to live their lives. A bet the thing they hate the most would be a women atheist scientist everything they consider evil

Skeptic Pete said:

“how does a virgin birth happen i mean once the baby is being born the hymen has to break bing bang boom no virgin and baby still not entirely born”

It’s a miracle, my son. Miracles are meant to be impossible, that’s why they’re called “miracles”.

Skeptic Pete said:

“how does a virgin birth happen i mean once the baby is being born the hymen has to break bing bang boom no virgin and baby still not entirely born”

I wonder this as well and wouldn’t an intact hymen make a birth more dangerous

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What we are seeing around the world are a lot of men who involve themselves in other countries conflicts

call them mercenaries or freedom fighters, other names

they all want to do one thing

kill people

they go after the thrill of killing people using other countries conflicts to commit crimes against humanity

I think it generally has less to do with a desire to kill and more to do with escalating inequality and feeling oppressed. The riots in St Louis haven’t eased up that I have heard. The industrial sector thrives on keeping third world countries where they are. As much as someone might try to disguise it, predatory actions will inevitably lead to revolutionary ideals…..

I think the ISLAMIC religious leaders over in IRAQ and SYRIA are using that escalating inequality and feelings of oppression as a means to validate their actions, also a lot of these people have nothing to do, no work to go to, so these religious leaders are using the situation to their advantage

Hey you can’t argue with logic like this!

“ What I see is the Bible, with a spot-on record of prophecies, at least 365, precisely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. No missed prophecies at all. Not one. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

The odds of one person fulfilling 365 discrete prophecies is one in 2 to the 365th power, or 1 in 7.51 time 10 to the 109th power. That is one in 751 million googols. Consider those odds in comparison to the number of subatomic particles in the universe, roughly 1 times ten to the 80th power. Therefore, the likelihood of one person fulfilling these prophecies is 7.5 octillion times the number of particles in the known universe.”

Cymek said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What we are seeing around the world are a lot of men who involve themselves in other countries conflicts

call them mercenaries or freedom fighters, other names

they all want to do one thing

kill people

they go after the thrill of killing people using other countries conflicts to commit crimes against humanity

I think it generally has less to do with a desire to kill and more to do with escalating inequality and feeling oppressed. The riots in St Louis haven’t eased up that I have heard. The industrial sector thrives on keeping third world countries where they are. As much as someone might try to disguise it, predatory actions will inevitably lead to revolutionary ideals…..

These Jihadists aren’t fighting to stop inequality or oppression, they don’t like the fact that people are waking up and realising they don’t have to be under the yoke of religion anymore. They are fighting to maintain a male dominated caste type system were they are at the top and can tell others (especially women and girls) how to live their lives. A bet the thing they hate the most would be a women atheist scientist everything they consider evil

Ignorance is a tool of the ‘divide and conquer’ mindset.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What we are seeing around the world are a lot of men who involve themselves in other countries conflicts

call them mercenaries or freedom fighters, other names

they all want to do one thing

kill people

they go after the thrill of killing people using other countries conflicts to commit crimes against humanity

I think it generally has less to do with a desire to kill and more to do with escalating inequality and feeling oppressed. The riots in St Louis haven’t eased up that I have heard. The industrial sector thrives on keeping third world countries where they are. As much as someone might try to disguise it, predatory actions will inevitably lead to revolutionary ideals…..

I think the ISLAMIC religious leaders over in IRAQ and SYRIA are using that escalating inequality and feelings of oppression as a means to validate their actions, also a lot of these people have nothing to do, no work to go to, so these religious leaders are using the situation to their advantage

Yes. They are using desperate people under the guise of religion to market themselves as righteous.

Skeptic Pete said:

Hey you can’t argue with logic like this!

“ What I see is the Bible, with a spot-on record of prophecies, at least 365, precisely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. No missed prophecies at all. Not one. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

The odds of one person fulfilling 365 discrete prophecies is one in 2 to the 365th power, or 1 in 7.51 time 10 to the 109th power. That is one in 751 million googols. Consider those odds in comparison to the number of subatomic particles in the universe, roughly 1 times ten to the 80th power. Therefore, the likelihood of one person fulfilling these prophecies is 7.5 octillion times the number of particles in the known universe.”

Why here though

why not somewhere else, like over on the other side of the galaxy, far away

lol

All these dangerous religious leaders follow a simple pattern

find people, separate the genders, train the young men, using local circumstances, using religion, using brotherhood, train them to kill the infidels which they learn about in their religions training etc

it doesn’t take them very long to do it either

bitchen kitch stingin’ up friend eggs
lettuce under ontop toast
mayo and tomato sauce not forget
my modest culinary boast

Now that an American has been killed

there will probably be more sorties

>>>These Jihadists aren’t fighting to stop inequality or oppression, they don’t like the fact that people are waking up and realising they don’t have to be under the yoke of religion anymore. They are fighting to maintain a male dominated caste type system were they are at the top and can tell others (especially women and girls) how to live their lives. A bet the thing they hate the most would be a women atheist scientist everything they consider evil

that is true

I wont argue with that

it is not just one bad thing or another bad thing over there, but a lot of bad ideas together

CrazyNeutrino said:

>>>These Jihadists aren’t fighting to stop inequality or oppression, they don’t like the fact that people are waking up and realising they don’t have to be under the yoke of religion anymore. They are fighting to maintain a male dominated caste type system were they are at the top and can tell others (especially women and girls) how to live their lives. A bet the thing they hate the most would be a women atheist scientist everything they consider evil

that is true

I wont argue with that

it is not just one bad thing or another bad thing over there, but a lot of bad ideas together

I wonder how many extremists they would have if they had the dole……..

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

>>>These Jihadists aren’t fighting to stop inequality or oppression, they don’t like the fact that people are waking up and realising they don’t have to be under the yoke of religion anymore. They are fighting to maintain a male dominated caste type system were they are at the top and can tell others (especially women and girls) how to live their lives. A bet the thing they hate the most would be a women atheist scientist everything they consider evil

that is true

I wont argue with that

it is not just one bad thing or another bad thing over there, but a lot of bad ideas together

I wonder how many extremists they would have if they had the dole……..

I’ve been having that hard a time finding work, if there were bombs going off somewhere nearby I’d probably turn up just to feel useful.

> Are religions mental diseases?

Well, for starters they’re memes. That makes them semi-living entities independent of humanity.

As for mental diseases, looking into DSM they’re not considered mental diseases. Mostly that is because a mental disease tends to be defined as something that interferes with a person’s normal functioning in society, and that in turn depends on social norms. Religions don’t generally in themselves hamper normal societal functioning enough to get them classified as mental diseases.

However, I have noticed that most people in mental institutions in Australia are heavily religious.