I stumbled over this article and was a little confused… I wasn’t aware this was the outcome of the experiment??

From here: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/proof-human-body-projection-consciousness.html

“One of the key principles of quantum physics is that our thoughts determine reality. Early in the 1900′s they proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt with an experiment called the double slit experiment. They found that the determining factor of the behavior of energy (‘particles’) at the quantum level is the awareness of the observer.

“For example: electrons under the same conditions would sometimes act like particles, and then at other times they would switch to acting like waves (formless energy), because it was completely dependent on what the observer expected was going to happen. Whatever the observed believed would occur is what the quantum field did.”

Does this have any truth to it?

JTQ said:

Does this have any truth to it?

It comes from mindunleashed.com… so there’s probably a half grain of truth warped into a ton of woo.

no. they have the wrong definition of “observer”. observer doesn’t mean a person has to watch. observer is any measurement.

Ahh ok.

I get a bit concerned when people throw around the word ‘quantum’. Generally sets off the bullshit alarm.

JTQ said:

I stumbled over this article and was a little confused… I wasn’t aware this was the outcome of the experiment??

From here: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/proof-human-body-projection-consciousness.html

“One of the key principles of quantum physics is that our thoughts determine reality. Early in the 1900′s they proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt with an experiment called the double slit experiment. They found that the determining factor of the behavior of energy (‘particles’) at the quantum level is the awareness of the observer.

“For example: electrons under the same conditions would sometimes act like particles, and then at other times they would switch to acting like waves (formless energy), because it was completely dependent on what the observer expected was going to happen. Whatever the observed believed would occur is what the quantum field did.”

Does this have any truth to it?

A little from Column A and and little from Column B

QM infers any information exchange between source and observer is mediated by the quantum particle and that this exchange only occurs if both are present.

Heisenberg is driving on the freeway and a police officer stops him for speeding. The officer walks up to Heisenberg’s car and asks him, “Sir, do you know how fast you were going?” Mr. Heisenberg says “Officer, I have no idea how fast I was going, but I know exactly where I am.”

Tamb said:

Heisenberg is driving on the freeway and a police officer stops him for speeding. The officer walks up to Heisenberg’s car and asks him, “Sir, do you know how fast you were going?” Mr. Heisenberg says “Officer, I have no idea how fast I was going, but I know exactly where I am.”

For I am the one who knocks….

diddly-squat said:

JTQ said:

I stumbled over this article and was a little confused… I wasn’t aware this was the outcome of the experiment??

From here: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/proof-human-body-projection-consciousness.html

“One of the key principles of quantum physics is that our thoughts determine reality. Early in the 1900′s they proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt with an experiment called the double slit experiment. They found that the determining factor of the behavior of energy (‘particles’) at the quantum level is the awareness of the observer.

“For example: electrons under the same conditions would sometimes act like particles, and then at other times they would switch to acting like waves (formless energy), because it was completely dependent on what the observer expected was going to happen. Whatever the observed believed would occur is what the quantum field did.”

Does this have any truth to it?

A little from Column A and and little from Column B

QM infers any information exchange between source and observer is mediated by the quantum particle and that this exchange only occurs if both are present.

How would you confirm it, wouldn’t you skew the experiment if observed?

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

JTQ said:

I stumbled over this article and was a little confused… I wasn’t aware this was the outcome of the experiment??

From here: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/proof-human-body-projection-consciousness.html

“One of the key principles of quantum physics is that our thoughts determine reality. Early in the 1900′s they proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt with an experiment called the double slit experiment. They found that the determining factor of the behavior of energy (‘particles’) at the quantum level is the awareness of the observer.

“For example: electrons under the same conditions would sometimes act like particles, and then at other times they would switch to acting like waves (formless energy), because it was completely dependent on what the observer expected was going to happen. Whatever the observed believed would occur is what the quantum field did.”

Does this have any truth to it?

A little from Column A and and little from Column B

QM infers any information exchange between source and observer is mediated by the quantum particle and that this exchange only occurs if both are present.

How would you confirm it, wouldn’t you skew the experiment if observed?

it’s a theoretical outcome of the way QM works… it’s like saying that there is no photon unless there is an observer; it’s unprovable… tree falling in the wood and all…

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

A little from Column A and and little from Column B

QM infers any information exchange between source and observer is mediated by the quantum particle and that this exchange only occurs if both are present.

How would you confirm it, wouldn’t you skew the experiment if observed?

it’s a theoretical outcome of the way QM works… it’s like saying that there is no photon unless there is an observer; it’s unprovable… tree falling in the wood and all…

Thats what I thought

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

How would you confirm it, wouldn’t you skew the experiment if observed?

it’s a theoretical outcome of the way QM works… it’s like saying that there is no photon unless there is an observer; it’s unprovable… tree falling in the wood and all…

Thats what I thought

it also suggests that somehow a light source from billions of year ago has some sort of connection to you as you look up into the sky at night… which to me seems like a bridge too far…

Divine Angel said:

JTQ said:

Does this have any truth to it?

It comes from mindunleashed.com… so there’s probably a half grain of truth warped into a ton of woo.

did someone say woo?

ds said : A little from Column A and and little from Column B

I think this is excessively generous to the woo merchants.

I also think it is unfortunate that QM is described in terms of observations rather than interactions.

Of course, it is only the observed interactions that we know about, but there is no reason to think that the un-observed interactions are any different.

A chap called Schrodinger came up with a story about a cat in a box to make this very point, but of course everyone got the wrong end of the stick.

The Rev Dodgson said:

A chap called Schrodinger came up with a story about a cat in a box to make this very point, but of course everyone got the wrong end of the stick.

The Rev Dodgson said:

ds said : A little from Column A and and little from Column B

I think this is excessively generous to the woo merchants.

I also think it is unfortunate that QM is described in terms of observations rather than interactions.

Of course, it is only the observed interactions that we know about, but there is no reason to think that the un-observed interactions are any different.

A chap called Schrodinger came up with a story about a cat in a box to make this very point, but of course everyone got the wrong end of the stick.

I agree, it’s an unfortunate interpretation

Faberge Fractals

CrazyNeutrino said:

Faberge Fractals

Very impressive. I presume computer generated?

“One of the key principles of quantum physics is that our thoughts determine reality”

Hanging is too good.