I’ve grown them from seed. Don’t need greenhouses. In fact that only makes for weak trees.
The big issue is that it is extremely difficult to plant the trees and get them permanently established in any other than the locations they actually occur in.
For the trees sake, the people should get all the feral animals out of the area and leave it themselves.
“We collected 300 seeds, so it is a fairly low germination rate, but the 40 will be good to plant around Boulia.”
Yeah yeah. I was given ten seeds and they all germinated.
Surely I could get a job doing what other people seem not to be able to do.roughbarked said:
“We collected 300 seeds, so it is a fairly low germination rate, but the 40 will be good to plant around Boulia.”Yeah yeah. I was given ten seeds and they all germinated.
Surely I could get a job doing what other people seem not to be able to do.
frustrating, hey?
bluegreen said:
roughbarked said:
“We collected 300 seeds, so it is a fairly low germination rate, but the 40 will be good to plant around Boulia.”Yeah yeah. I was given ten seeds and they all germinated.
Surely I could get a job doing what other people seem not to be able to do.frustrating, hey?
Even more frustrating is the inflexibility of those who deem themselves in the know.
I had no trouble germinating the seeds and growing the hardened off seedlings but I can’t plant them here and expect them to flourish.
I can help in any such project if I am either on the spot or am able to transport the seedlings to where ever they can be planted. We are talking about plants that are becoming extinct because their habitat is trashed.
Follow this thread to see how Helix and I get along on this if she bothers to deem myself worthy of replying to. Not that I am going to repeat the mistakes I’ve made in the past of giving information for free.
http://fffsforums.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=4&t=548&p=4139
Roughie,
You need to understand that you both come from the opposite ends of the conservation spectrum. Just because you both GAF doesn’t mean you’re both right.Helix is a SCIENTIST. You are a FIELD OBSERVER. In an ideal world, you’d compliment each other.
The reality is that for whatever reason, many academics do not want to trust the decades of undocumented and unsubstantiated observations made by “uneducated” observers. Sometimes this is entirely correct as the “uneducated” observers will jump to highly tenuous conclusions on something that has no evidence to support it (Us scientific folk are often partially to blame here as we’ll often let our pet theories and hypotheses out during casual conversation). Other times the old blokes who have been catching barra for 50+ years know more about the life history and ecology of the fish than the current batch of researchers.
Sometimes you just talk shit! – I respect you no less for that. If you don’t talk shit, you’re not normal.
I spend my life trying to bridge the gap between scientists/educated in other fields/farmers/land holders/those who left school half way through year 10/Idiot conspiracy theorists/whacked out weed growers/just plain old fuckwits for what I see as important conservation work.
Mate, If she gives you the shits, ignore her. I’m sure Helix would be happy to do the same unless you’re talking utter crap (which sometimes you do!).
Personally, I’ll listen to pretty much anything Helix says as she has an incredible grasp on taxonomy, ecology and conservation. I’ll also listen to you as you have a wealth of knowledge of “on the ground” techniques and observations.
Jebus mate, kiss and make up – (OK, I can’t see that happening while the earth continues to revolve around the sun) – but you both have something positive to contribute. Stop with the sledging. It detracts from both of your knowledge bases and contributes nothing to the conversation. If someone wants to hang shit on you, ignore it and wear it as a badge of pride.
Mate, It’s getting tired. Let’s all work towards the same goal.
Teleost said:
Roughie,You need to understand that you both come from the opposite ends of the conservation spectrum. Just because you both GAF doesn’t mean you’re both right.Helix is a SCIENTIST. You are a FIELD OBSERVER. In an ideal world, you’d compliment each other.
The reality is that for whatever reason, many academics do not want to trust the decades of undocumented and unsubstantiated observations made by “uneducated” observers. Sometimes this is entirely correct as the “uneducated” observers will jump to highly tenuous conclusions on something that has no evidence to support it (Us scientific folk are often partially to blame here as we’ll often let our pet theories and hypotheses out during casual conversation). Other times the old blokes who have been catching barra for 50+ years know more about the life history and ecology of the fish than the current batch of researchers.
Sometimes you just talk shit! – I respect you no less for that. If you don’t talk shit, you’re not normal.
I spend my life trying to bridge the gap between scientists/educated in other fields/farmers/land holders/those who left school half way through year 10/Idiot conspiracy theorists/whacked out weed growers/just plain old fuckwits for what I see as important conservation work.
Mate, If she gives you the shits, ignore her. I’m sure Helix would be happy to do the same unless you’re talking utter crap (which sometimes you do!).
Personally, I’ll listen to pretty much anything Helix says as she has an incredible grasp on taxonomy, ecology and conservation. I’ll also listen to you as you have a wealth of knowledge of “on the ground” techniques and observations.
Jebus mate, kiss and make up – (OK, I can’t see that happening while the earth continues to revolve around the sun) – but you both have something positive to contribute. Stop with the sledging. It detracts from both of your knowledge bases and contributes nothing to the conversation. If someone wants to hang shit on you, ignore it and wear it as a badge of pride.
Mate, It’s getting tired. Let’s all work towards the same goal.
I agree. I simply need to get above it.
Teleost said:
Roughie,You need to understand that you both come from the opposite ends of the conservation spectrum. Just because you both GAF doesn’t mean you’re both right.Helix is a SCIENTIST. You are a FIELD OBSERVER. In an ideal world, you’d compliment each other.
The reality is that for whatever reason, many academics do not want to trust the decades of undocumented and unsubstantiated observations made by “uneducated” observers. Sometimes this is entirely correct as the “uneducated” observers will jump to highly tenuous conclusions on something that has no evidence to support it (Us scientific folk are often partially to blame here as we’ll often let our pet theories and hypotheses out during casual conversation). Other times the old blokes who have been catching barra for 50+ years know more about the life history and ecology of the fish than the current batch of researchers.
Sometimes you just talk shit! – I respect you no less for that. If you don’t talk shit, you’re not normal.
I spend my life trying to bridge the gap between scientists/educated in other fields/farmers/land holders/those who left school half way through year 10/Idiot conspiracy theorists/whacked out weed growers/just plain old fuckwits for what I see as important conservation work.
Mate, If she gives you the shits, ignore her. I’m sure Helix would be happy to do the same unless you’re talking utter crap (which sometimes you do!).
Personally, I’ll listen to pretty much anything Helix says as she has an incredible grasp on taxonomy, ecology and conservation. I’ll also listen to you as you have a wealth of knowledge of “on the ground” techniques and observations.
Jebus mate, kiss and make up – (OK, I can’t see that happening while the earth continues to revolve around the sun) – but you both have something positive to contribute. Stop with the sledging. It detracts from both of your knowledge bases and contributes nothing to the conversation. If someone wants to hang shit on you, ignore it and wear it as a badge of pride.
Mate, It’s getting tired. Let’s all work towards the same goal.
makes like a fly on the wall
bluegreen said:
makes like a fly on the wall
Along came a spider and sat down beside her.
Sorry BG.
Just had to be said.
Teleost said:
Sorry BG.Just had to be said.
apologies not required.
I am going to apply to have this thread deleted. It is “my” thread anyway, and I take exception to it being hijacked by a brawl that’sgoing on in another forum. Don’t bring your fights over here, that is very bad manners.
Also we don’t say, on this forum, that members are “full of shit”. That is nasty.
I have read the offending post several times and it contributes nothing to the discussion (if any) this thread was going to have. We contributors to this forum are all of mature age and are willing to seek our own information, or be informed by others on the forum, if what we know turns out to be factually suspect. We debate in a manner that informs us and leave personal invective out of it.
I don’t see any problem with anything so far put into this thread. It stands alone, or you can cross reference to the FFFS forum if you know about it. The full of shit comment was not used offensively.
If someone told me I was “full of shit” I would be offended…
… and in any case I stand by my assertion that fights in other fora should not come over here…
No-one on this forum was labelled like that.
It was a figure of speech.
Dinetta,
I’m sorry you’re offended and I understand why that may be. That said, I’m not going to unsay it. If you want to ask CB88 to delete it, that’s fine.
My point is simply that the argy bargy that has been going between those two across several forums and several years has got to a point where it has become more than pointless and really does not contribute to anything in any meaningful way. So far this forum has remained fairly free of this feud and my post was more in the nature of telling Roughie to pull his head in and take it elsewhere rather than spreading it around even further (ie. in this forum).
Roughy is not offended by what I said to him. It was not meant in an offensive manner and he is well aware of that.
Once again, my apologies if it offended you, but it still had to be said.
and done.