Date: 20/08/2008 16:25:33
From: t_wrecks
ID: 29057
Subject: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Hi everyone,
Well I’m all ready (I think) to establish my first ever raised beds for vegetables and herbs. I’ve got the lucerne, manure, compost, blood & bone, lime — and a big stack of newspapers to lay down over the existing grass and weeds to kill them off and layer the bed on top of.
One problem though — I noticed that the SMHs that I’ve been hording for this purpose all have COLOURED INK. Which is toxic. My question: how toxic is the coloured ink? Are there any alternatives to newsprint that would serve this purpose? I’m guessing that what ever goes at the bottom of the planting bed has to break down and allow roots to go through, so hessian cloth (which I have metres and metres of) may be out of the question.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Todd
Baulkham Hills NSW

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Date: 20/08/2008 16:31:07
From: Lucky1
ID: 29059
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Hi Todd:D

I use the coloured newspaper prints. The glossy paper I stick away from.

Here is my Blog I have and if you want to see my no-dig garden…check out the links on the right side….so far down the page:)

http://luckysduckfarm.blogspot.com/

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Date: 20/08/2008 16:44:15
From: bluegreen
ID: 29063
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

as far as I know newspaper ink is vegetable based, but don’t quote me on that. It’s the glossy stuff you have to worry about.

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Date: 20/08/2008 16:49:20
From: t_wrecks
ID: 29066
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Oh that’s a relief. I was this close to just using the coloured newspapers anyhow, but had this fear of ending up with yellow mutant poisoned silverbeet. Thanks!
Todd

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Date: 20/08/2008 16:50:41
From: Lucky1
ID: 29067
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

t_wrecks said:


Oh that’s a relief. I was this close to just using the coloured newspapers anyhow, but had this fear of ending up with yellow mutant poisoned silverbeet. Thanks!
Todd

LOL glad you came here then Todd. Is this your first vegie plot?? Also what state are you in?

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Date: 20/08/2008 16:53:44
From: bluegreen
ID: 29069
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

t_wrecks said:


Todd
Baulkham Hills NSW

how did you find out about us Todd? and welcome by the way :D

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Date: 20/08/2008 17:05:49
From: Lucky1
ID: 29071
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

bluegreen said:


t_wrecks said:

Todd
Baulkham Hills NSW

how did you find out about us Todd? and welcome by the way :D

blushes oh yeah…oops…lol

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Date: 20/08/2008 17:07:09
From: veg gardener
ID: 29072
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Lucky1 said:


bluegreen said:

t_wrecks said:

Todd
Baulkham Hills NSW

how did you find out about us Todd? and welcome by the way :D

blushes oh yeah…oops…lol

welcome

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Date: 20/08/2008 17:29:16
From: t_wrecks
ID: 29073
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Thanks for the warm welcome! This is in fact my first vegetable garden. After dreaming about growing my own food for years, I finally live in a house with a backyard. Now if I can just convince my landlord to let me have some chooks and a couple of goats I’ll be set.

I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!

Todd

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Date: 20/08/2008 17:30:37
From: Lucky1
ID: 29074
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

t_wrecks said:


Thanks for the warm welcome! This is in fact my first vegetable garden. After dreaming about growing my own food for years, I finally live in a house with a backyard. Now if I can just convince my landlord to let me have some chooks and a couple of goats I’ll be set.

I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!

Todd

You are most welcome and ask away:)

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Date: 20/08/2008 17:33:40
From: SueBk
ID: 29075
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Don’t know about goats, but tell your landlord that chooks improve the soil :) so you’d be doing him/her a favour. Depending on how many you get, maybe you could bribe him with fresh eggs ;) I’ve been paying $4.50 for a dozen free range organic eggs.

One chook of three is laying now, so we shouldn’t have to buy eggs again until next winter.

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Date: 20/08/2008 18:33:28
From: bluegreen
ID: 29076
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

t_wrecks said:


Thanks for the warm welcome! This is in fact my first vegetable garden. After dreaming about growing my own food for years, I finally live in a house with a backyard. Now if I can just convince my landlord to let me have some chooks and a couple of goats I’ll be set.

I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!

Todd

Cool! Most of us here are refugees from the old GA forum. Left when the new highly restrictive format came on line. We love to have new people with lots of questions :D Hopefully we can answer some of them too!

I have some bantams and some ducks so I can appreciate where you are coming from there.

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Date: 20/08/2008 18:41:13
From: Lucky1
ID: 29077
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!
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Wonder what the hidden message was?? And who it was from?

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Date: 20/08/2008 19:10:14
From: orchid40
ID: 29078
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Welcome Todd!
We may not have all the answers but we are a friendly bunch :)
You may be able to answer a few questions too!!

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Date: 20/08/2008 19:14:55
From: SueBk
ID: 29080
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

That should have read:

Don’t know about goats, but tell your landlord that chooks improve the soil :) so you’d be doing him/her a favour. Depending on how many you get, maybe you could bribe him with fresh eggs ;) I’ve been paying $4.50 for a dozen free range organic eggs.

One chook of three is laying now, so we shouldn’t have to buy eggs again until next winter.

Got to remember to remove the ‘noses’ from my emoticons.

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Date: 20/08/2008 19:20:21
From: veg gardener
ID: 29081
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Lucky1 said:


I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!
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Wonder what the hidden message was?? And who it was from?

well it could have been me or Bl

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Date: 20/08/2008 20:51:39
From: bubba louie
ID: 29085
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Lucky1 said:


I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!
==================
Wonder what the hidden message was?? And who it was from?

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It might have been me. I know I put this site up for someone a while back. I thought the mods would have found it by now.

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Date: 20/08/2008 20:53:51
From: bubba louie
ID: 29086
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

t_wrecks said:


Thanks for the warm welcome! This is in fact my first vegetable garden. After dreaming about growing my own food for years, I finally live in a house with a backyard. Now if I can just convince my landlord to let me have some chooks and a couple of goats I’ll be set.

I found out about this forum via a link hidden in a message on the Gardening Australia forum. I’ve been looking for an active gardening message board for a few weeks and glad I’ve stumbled across this one. Prepare to be bombarded with questions!

Todd

Garden Express has a good forum as well. Some of us use it too.

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Date: 21/08/2008 13:27:57
From: aquarium
ID: 29126
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

i second the bit about staying away from glossy paper…it’s still be there years down the track. unless you’re making a raised bed time capsule.

only use the lime if your next crops to go in will be lime loving ones = cabagge, silverbeet, caulis, spinach, lettuce, beans, peas, garlic, onion. do not use the lime if growing tomatoes etc…unless you’re using dolomite lime, which doesn’t raise ph.

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Date: 21/08/2008 17:51:16
From: t_wrecks
ID: 29142
Subject: re: newspaper at the bottom of the no-dig garden

Helpful, that about the lime. I’m putting in cabbage, silverbeet, spinach, etc. I was going to just use the dolomite — but I didn’t know that tomatoes don’t like the regular stuff, so that piece of information is going into Useful information file. Thanks again…

Todd

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