Do they understand why humans experience music loops after hearing a song? Is the reason related to why ad jingles aid advertisers perhaps?

¿music loop?

¿refer we to persistence of short-term sequential memory?

>Do they understand why humans experience music loops after hearing a song? Is the reason related to why ad jingles aid advertisers perhaps?

We tend to cycle some things, or something is cycled, to enhance memory formation, to hold a memory, for example when I read water meters I write them down, but I still have to read it and scribble it down, each one I triple check for errors, totals (flows also, but they need only reading once), and I do a quick check against the previous read also, but additionally have a bit of running tally in my head of what each is. Sometimes there are as many as nine, some eight digits long. Between reads going one to the next I often am reciting the last read, though there’s no necessity to do this. What it does allow though is familiarity enough that I can glance at a meter and know immediately that it might be say 30KL over say a three day period which’d indicate a pipe burst(especially if it were still going at maximum flow), or like couple days back a read were >~30KL the flow had stopped and went for drive and contract sprayers were in and had filled the large storage tanks. So the mind has ways of reinforcing memories.

On the subject communications with other people I note I go over the exchanges some in my head afterward and ‘analyze’ what I said, what the other said, words used, body language, and there’s always work to be done with non-explicit aspects, but generally I keep such communications so that not too much of that is required. Anyway this required operations, involving memory.

Music is a complex subject, and delving that and explanations’d require something book-length, and couple more neurons that cooperated.

What I would suggest is that TV/movie/media use of music, some of which isn’t properly music, but something else, is probably destroying many peoples appreciation of music. The correspondence between the imagery and sound is most often not within a viewers/listeners control, but at the same time TV is exploiting it for affect.

The audience’s minds are being trained into a type of correspondence of the senses, which is a very powerful device.

transition said:

>Do they understand why humans experience music loops after hearing a song? Is the reason related to why ad jingles aid advertisers perhaps?

We tend to cycle some things, or something is cycled, to enhance memory formation, to hold a memory, for example when I read water meters I write them down, but I still have to read it and scribble it down, each one I triple check for errors, totals (flows also, but they need only reading once), and I do a quick check against the previous read also, but additionally have a bit of running tally in my head of what each is. Sometimes there are as many as nine, some eight digits long. Between reads going one to the next I often am reciting the last read, though there’s no necessity to do this. What it does allow though is familiarity enough that I can glance at a meter and know immediately that it might be say 30KL over say a three day period which’d indicate a pipe burst(especially if it were still going at maximum flow), or like couple days back a read were >~30KL the flow had stopped and went for drive and contract sprayers were in and had filled the large storage tanks. So the mind has ways of reinforcing memories.

On the subject communications with other people I note I go over the exchanges some in my head afterward and ‘analyze’ what I said, what the other said, words used, body language, and there’s always work to be done with non-explicit aspects, but generally I keep such communications so that not too much of that is required. Anyway this required operations, involving memory.

Music is a complex subject, and delving that and explanations’d require something book-length, and couple more neurons that cooperated.

What I would suggest is that TV/movie/media use of music, some of which isn’t properly music, but something else, is probably destroying many peoples appreciation of music. The correspondence between the imagery and sound is most often not within a viewers/listeners control, but at the same time TV is exploiting it for affect.

The audience’s minds are being trained into a type of correspondence of the senses, which is a very powerful device.

The way to fix that is to listen to more music!

It’s a a brain bug called an earworm, an interesting example of how even completely sane people can “lose control” of their brains. Presumably neuron circuits associated with memories of certain note sequences have a tendency to keep firing because of a “repeat” instruction included in the information, and won’t stop until sufficient attention is switched to some other task. Here’s Wikipedia:

Research and cures

According to research by James Kellaris, 98% of individuals experience earworms. Women and men experience the phenomenon equally often, but earworms tend to last longer for women and irritate them more. Kellaris produced statistics suggesting that songs with lyrics may account for 73.7% of earworms, whereas instrumental music may cause only 7.7%.

In a 2006 book by Daniel Levitin entitled This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession, he states that research has shown musicians and people with obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) are more likely to suffer from earworm attacks. An attack usually involves a small portion of a song, a hook, equal to or less than the capacity of one’s auditory short-term memory. Levitin reports that capacity as usually 15 to 30 seconds. Simple tunes are more likely to get stuck than complex pieces of music. He also mentions that in some situations, OCD medications have been known to minimize the effects. In 2010, published data in the British Journal of Psychology directly addressed the subject, and its results support earlier claims that earworms are usually 15 to 30 seconds in length.

Scientists at Western Washington University found that engaging the working memory in moderately difficult tasks (such as anagrams, Sudoku puzzles, or reading a novel) was an effective way of stopping earworms and of reducing their recurrence. Another publication points out that melodic music has a tendency to demonstrate repeating rhythm which may lead to endless repetition, unless a climax can be achieved to break the cycle.[18

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earworm

Makes sense but I get the impression bubblecar that many people of all walks of life suggest advert jingles and songs can get stuck in a loop rather than perhaps a select group such as a person whom may experience life with symptoms inline with a diagnosis of OCD. Interesting points though to consider further.

transition said:

>Do they understand why humans experience music loops after hearing a song? Is the reason related to why ad jingles aid advertisers perhaps?

On the subject communications with other people I note I go over the exchanges some in my head afterward and ‘analyze’ what I said, what the other said, words used, body language, and there’s always work to be done with non-explicit aspects, but generally I keep such communications so that not too much of that is required. Anyway this required operations, involving memory.

This type of role-play training can be helpful in improving capacities to resolve similar encounters in the future.

Alternatively roleplay may to some extent prepare a person for a social event that might be challenging. Like preparing a person for a job interview, emergency response situation or even preparing a person for participating in a legal proceeding such as a giving a witness statement in a courtroom.

I know someone who keeps repeating the same tune over and over again

you have to whistle, hum, sing another tune to break the obsession with the original tune

do it a few times and the problem goes away, you have to wean the brain off the different tunes you’ve presented it with

I know someone who keeps repeating the same tune over and over again

me too but i don’t click on too many of your posts these days so it isn’t too bad.

WhenIworked at the casino, I used to drive home with about 6 pokie machine jingles stuck in my head..
Very bloody annoying…

I remember once sharing a concrete cell with a fellow worker

he was a horrible snorer

I mentioned this to someone and they told me that the remedy was to whistle whenever they started snoring, the whistle would disturb and reset the brain of the snorer

so I waited till the next morning, I woke to the noise of snoring, I whistled, the other person snuffled and stopped snoring

great I thought, I was just getting back to sleep when they started snoring again

once again I whistled and the snoring stopped

getting back to sleep the snoring started again and once again I whistled

the snoring stopped and a weary voice came from the bloke in the other bed “ohhh…. please stop whistling”

stumpy_seahorse said:

WhenIworked at the casino, I used to drive home with about 6 pokie machine jingles stuck in my head..
Very bloody annoying…

I used to fix them, the music is addictive because they are essentially children’s music, fairground music and similar

childrens music is catchy for its simplicity

wookiemeister said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

WhenIworked at the casino, I used to drive home with about 6 pokie machine jingles stuck in my head..
Very bloody annoying…

I used to fix them, the music is addictive because they are essentially children’s music, fairground music and similar

childrens music is catchy for its simplicity

they had some ‘expert’ on getting songs stuck in your head on sunrise a couple of weeks ago.
He said something like 15-30 seconds is the human brain’s most effective memory length, so songs with a repeated chorus/tune of about 20 seconds are the ones that get stuck in our head