Date: 15/09/2014 16:51:49
From: JTQ
ID: 594003
Subject: Life can be cruel

Why is it that when there’s something happening in your life that you find particularly difficult, things seem to happen that make you think “there’s someone on the ‘other side’ that’s mocking me”?

For example, I’m currently living with my ex-girlfriend (it’s ok, we are just good friends now and get along quite well), and our 3 year old son. She told me yesterday she is moving out to her Dad’s this Saturday and I told her I don’t want them to go.

When she went out later in the afternoon, I turned the radio on and the song lyrics at that exact moment were “I want you to stay…”, and when she got back home late in the evening, I heard the song coming from her car’s radio, “Oh no, please don’t go…”

The only two songs I heard yesterday, and both are ones I really don’t want to hear right now.

Why does life have to do this? Surely there could be any other of the millions of available songs playing at that moment, but no.

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Date: 15/09/2014 16:57:04
From: Rule 303
ID: 594011
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

Hey, JTQ, sorry to hear things are not working out well at the moment, mate. I think the phenomenon you’re describing is just a kind of confirmation bias rather than the world conspiring against you.

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Date: 15/09/2014 16:58:06
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 594014
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

What Rule said.

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Date: 15/09/2014 16:58:41
From: furious
ID: 594016
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

Confirmation bias

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Date: 15/09/2014 16:59:11
From: furious
ID: 594018
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

Indeed…

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Date: 15/09/2014 17:02:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 594024
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

People on the “other side” aren’t mocking you. There’s no universal conspiracy. Your gf just thinks she needs a break. Life also has a way of turning out for the best… eventually. Chin up, bro. You’ve come this far together, she’s stuck with you now ;)

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Date: 15/09/2014 17:23:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 594046
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

Also, there are about 1,348,563 songs with the “please don’t go” theme.

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Date: 15/09/2014 17:26:35
From: AwesomeO
ID: 594047
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

Bubblecar said:


Also, there are about 1,348,563 songs with the “please don’t go” theme.

Bonn Scott frocking up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=868Daj-ys40

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Date: 15/09/2014 17:51:06
From: Cymek
ID: 594062
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

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Date: 15/09/2014 17:53:10
From: Dropbear
ID: 594065
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

Let x = gone;

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Date: 15/09/2014 18:06:45
From: transition
ID: 594077
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

>please don’t go

blame Big Joe Williams back in 1936, it were catching and AC/DC were singing it half century later, though I am sure such troubles predated Big Joe by few hundred-thousand years.

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Date: 15/09/2014 19:34:13
From: The_observer
ID: 594148
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

I know exactly how you feel JTQ.

just the other week I was stuck in a situation where I was far from home,
no money or credit card, hours from home & starving to death when on the radio
came the Wiggles ‘Hot Potato Hot Potato’ then Dino’s ‘When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie, that’s amore’ & then to make things worse the Beatles ‘Strawberry Fields Forever.

Life can be so cruel

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Date: 15/09/2014 23:35:11
From: PermeateFree
ID: 594311
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

The_observer said:

I know exactly how you feel JTQ.

just the other week I was stuck in a situation where I was far from home,
no money or credit card, hours from home & starving to death when on the radio
came the Wiggles ‘Hot Potato Hot Potato’ then Dino’s ‘When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie, that’s amore’ & then to make things worse the Beatles ‘Strawberry Fields Forever.

Life can be so cruel

I think some people should try a different channel.

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Date: 16/09/2014 01:23:26
From: transition
ID: 594313
Subject: re: Life can be cruel

>Hey, JTQ, sorry to hear things are not working out well at the moment, mate. I think the phenomenon you’re describing is just a kind of confirmation bias rather than the world conspiring against you.

I’ll try an expanation minus the modern(pop) psychology.

Way back nature (with the help of evolution) happened upon a bunch of tricks(read ‘mindtools’), in large part selected for courtesy of not just the expression of any individual biology, but biologies (plural) acting within environments, much of those environments had social aspects, so it can be said the social environments of past were part of the selection dynamic that has us this biology that has us receptive.

Sexual reproduction historically required a joint effort of, somewhat of both parent (mum and dad), but also of the group, which way back were more directly related than today.

Yearnings for company, and anxieties about being alone, these roughly tend reproductive opportunities, to generalize, and are not entirely departed from (loss of) access to resources for such things. There’s social status too, which most people don’t necessarily want a lot of, but then they don’t want to be alienated from resources and be or feel like or be treated as if they are bad company (excluding eccentric recluses for a moment – not a bad option).

The fact is that radio(music) going way back is full of references to and about yearnings, unfulfillment, the hope of fulfillment, frustrated desire, loneliness, misery, loss, but hope and adustment too. Half of it though (of modern times) is to have us marching along to clocks, war drums 24/7, and has some similarities to bursts from an AK47.

Our worries (and distress) tend an urgency, an immediacy, of things in the social field too. Rough mechanisms maybe, that tend to get the job done. Experience calibrates, adusts the knobs, put crudely, but then the internal mechanisms nature gifted us can be a bit brutish, which is not all bad anyway, as the self, individual personality, ‘I’ is in the work done to better it, or work with it.

Given the prevalence of models of the mind that involve something like associative learning, or associationism, and its exploitation by media, government, and every Tom, Dick and Mary, I personally don’t buy into it, not wholesale anyway, the pop concept of confirmation bias. I do think minds are often given to swinging between underdetermination and overdetermination, but I think it an essential dithering (tech sense) involved in learning, and resolving.

So, if I go looking for something that happens to be red, chances are I am going to see some other red things before I find the red thing I’m looking for.

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