Date: 14/10/2014 13:57:57
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609283
Subject: "It will go right down to the wire"

What will go right down to the wire? which wire? and why will “it” go down to it?
Who creates these crap sayings? and why?

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Date: 14/10/2014 13:58:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 609284
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

bob(from black rock) said:

What will go right down to the wire? which wire? and why will “it” go down to it?
Who creates these crap sayings? and why?

Possibly the wire of a finish line.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:00:17
From: Cymek
ID: 609285
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

bob(from black rock) said:

What will go right down to the wire? which wire? and why will “it” go down to it?
Who creates these crap sayings? and why?

I thought it related to cutting something right down to the wire inside, through all the plastic, insulation etc

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:01:32
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609286
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Witty Rejoinder said:


bob(from black rock) said:

What will go right down to the wire? which wire? and why will “it” go down to it?
Who creates these crap sayings? and why?

Possibly the wire of a finish line.

But it aint a wire, that would decapitate the winner.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:03:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 609287
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

bob(from black rock) said:

But it aint a wire, that would decapitate the winner.

Only if it was pulled taut.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:04:31
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609288
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Cymek said:


bob(from black rock) said:

What will go right down to the wire? which wire? and why will “it” go down to it?
Who creates these crap sayings? and why?

I thought it related to cutting something right down to the wire inside, through all the plastic, insulation etc

Could be, but how does this help.?

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:05:29
From: Tamb
ID: 609289
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Witty Rejoinder said:


bob(from black rock) said:

But it aint a wire, that would decapitate the winner.

Only if it was pulled taut.


It probably is something American as it has only been adopted by the Brits & Aussies.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:06:14
From: Tamb
ID: 609290
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

bob(from black rock) said:


Cymek said:

bob(from black rock) said:

What will go right down to the wire? which wire? and why will “it” go down to it?
Who creates these crap sayings? and why?

I thought it related to cutting something right down to the wire inside, through all the plastic, insulation etc

Could be, but how does this help.?


It predates plastic etc.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:08:39
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609291
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Tamb said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

bob(from black rock) said:

But it aint a wire, that would decapitate the winner.

Only if it was pulled taut.


It probably is something American as it has only been adopted by the Brits & Aussies.

Don’t know why we copy the Seppos they don’t speak English, they speak Hamerican.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:10:13
From: btm
ID: 609292
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

IIRC it comes from horse racing, where the end of the race was marked by a piece of wire.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:10:51
From: Divine Angel
ID: 609293
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Etymology: based on the racing meaning of wire
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/down+to+the+wire

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:11:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 609294
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Divine Angel said:


Etymology: based on the racing meaning of wire
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/down+to+the+wire

i.e. a wire marking where the race ends.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:11:48
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609295
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

btm said:


IIRC it comes from horse racing, where the end of the race was marked by a piece of wire.

What? and actual piece of wire stretched across the track?

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:13:43
From: diddly-squat
ID: 609296
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

I believe the phrase refers to how a thin wire was hung across the finish line of a horse race so as to help distinguish who finished first.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:15:45
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609297
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

diddly-squat said:


I believe the phrase refers to how a thin wire was hung across the finish line of a horse race so as to help distinguish who finished first.

So was the wire above head height of the horses?

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:18:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 609298
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

No, but it wasn’t stretched taut.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:20:07
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 609299
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

Divine Angel said:


No, but it wasn’t stretched taut.

So what happened when the wire was contacted?

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:21:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 609300
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

You could see which horse had stretched it, and that was the horse that won. I believe the wire snapped before injury was caused.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:21:27
From: party_pants
ID: 609301
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

bob(from black rock) said:


btm said:

IIRC it comes from horse racing, where the end of the race was marked by a piece of wire.

What? and actual piece of wire stretched across the track?

Yes, but at a height so that horse and rider could pass safely underneath. Sometimes with little flags attached.

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Date: 14/10/2014 14:33:14
From: diddly-squat
ID: 609307
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

bob(from black rock) said:


diddly-squat said:

I believe the phrase refers to how a thin wire was hung across the finish line of a horse race so as to help distinguish who finished first.

So was the wire above head height of the horses?

below, across the chest i believe…

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Date: 14/10/2014 19:18:40
From: Teleost
ID: 609530
Subject: re: "It will go right down to the wire"

This phrase is commonly used to describe dramatic moments where the final result
is not known until the very end, or near the end. For instance, a sports commentator
for a basketball game might describe a close match between two teams as “coming
down to the wire.” This is often said towards the end of a close game because, due
to the game being so close in terms of score, it’s difficult to tell who will win until the
final moments.

So where did this phrase come from? This expression is believed to have originated from horse racing, where a wire was hung up over the finish line to help determine a winner. Thus, races that were extremely close could be described as “coming down to the wire,” quite literally.

According to World Wide Words, the phrase is used by Scribner’s Magazine in July, 1889. There’s a story within the magazine titled ‘How the Derby Was Won’, and it provides some details about a horse race:

“As the end of the stand was reached Timarch worked up to Petrel, and the two raced down to the wire, cheered on by the applause of the spectators. They ended the first half mile of the race head and head, passing lapped together under the wire, and beginning in earnest the mile which was yet to be traversed.”

http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/Down-to-The-Wire.html

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