Sorry for new thread. What type of glue is Holdson Puzzle Fixative ? It’s marketed as a glue to hold jigsaw puzzle pieces in place and the bottles say nothing more than that.

As a glue it has properties superior in many respects to cyanoacrylates, epoxies, PVA and silicones.

It is stable at 250 C temperatures (PVA isn’t).
It doesn’t catch fire (cyanoacrylates are highly flammable and both epoxy and silicone will burn)
If has perfect viscosity (not thick and sticky like epoxies and silicones)
It doesn’t creep downwards under the action of gravity (epoxies do)
It sets properly (epoxies set either too ruddy fast or not at all)
It isn’t brittle (cyanoacrylates are and epoxy sometimes is)
It is truly clear both when liquid and solid
It sticks to metal (PVA doesn’t)
It has adequate strength – a 1 cm square holds at least 10 kg, possibly much more.

So, what is it?

I’ve become even more interested in “puzzle fixative” since discovering today that it can be used as the perfect thin electrical insulator for low voltage electrical wires – it insulates perfectly at 0.05 mm thick, outperforming all tapes, other glues, and spray-ons PTFE and silicone.

(By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings).

mollwollfumble said:

Sorry for new thread. What type of glue is Holdson Puzzle Fixative ? It’s marketed as a glue to hold jigsaw puzzle pieces in place and the bottles say nothing more than that.

As a glue it has properties superior in many respects to cyanoacrylates, epoxies, PVA and silicones.

It is stable at 250 C temperatures (PVA isn’t).
It doesn’t catch fire (cyanoacrylates are highly flammable and both epoxy and silicone will burn)
If has perfect viscosity (not thick and sticky like epoxies and silicones)
It doesn’t creep downwards under the action of gravity (epoxies do)
It sets properly (epoxies set either too ruddy fast or not at all)
It isn’t brittle (cyanoacrylates are and epoxy sometimes is)
It is truly clear both when liquid and solid
It sticks to metal (PVA doesn’t)
It has adequate strength – a 1 cm square holds at least 10 kg, possibly much more.

So, what is it?

I’ve become even more interested in “puzzle fixative” since discovering today that it can be used as the perfect thin electrical insulator for low voltage electrical wires – it insulates perfectly at 0.05 mm thick, outperforming all tapes, other glues, and spray-ons PTFE and silicone.

(By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings).

you are looking for a fixative. Is this different from an adhesive or a glue?

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Sorry for new thread. What type of glue is Holdson Puzzle Fixative ? It’s marketed as a glue to hold jigsaw puzzle pieces in place and the bottles say nothing more than that.

As a glue it has properties superior in many respects to cyanoacrylates, epoxies, PVA and silicones.

It is stable at 250 C temperatures (PVA isn’t).
It doesn’t catch fire (cyanoacrylates are highly flammable and both epoxy and silicone will burn)
If has perfect viscosity (not thick and sticky like epoxies and silicones)
It doesn’t creep downwards under the action of gravity (epoxies do)
It sets properly (epoxies set either too ruddy fast or not at all)
It isn’t brittle (cyanoacrylates are and epoxy sometimes is)
It is truly clear both when liquid and solid
It sticks to metal (PVA doesn’t)
It has adequate strength – a 1 cm square holds at least 10 kg, possibly much more.

So, what is it?

I’ve become even more interested in “puzzle fixative” since discovering today that it can be used as the perfect thin electrical insulator for low voltage electrical wires – it insulates perfectly at 0.05 mm thick, outperforming all tapes, other glues, and spray-ons PTFE and silicone.

(By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings).

you are looking for a fixative. Is this different from an adhesive or a glue?

The only reason I can figure for bees to visit cannabis is for the fixative properties available from the oil.

Possibly the same question. What is the chemical formula for the original Tarzan’s Grip?
This may be very similar or the same.

mollwollfumble said:

Possibly the same question. What is the chemical formula for the original Tarzan’s Grip?
This may be very similar or the same.

I wanted to say it but I don’t have the chemistry background and everyone always picks on me when AI speak from memory alone.

mollwollfumble said:

Possibly the same question. What is the chemical formula for the original Tarzan’s Grip?
This may be very similar or the same.

I don’t think it is the same. Tarzan’s Grip has a strong solvent smell – acetone? That would make it flammable as well.

Puzzle fixative has no solvent smell.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Possibly the same question. What is the chemical formula for the original Tarzan’s Grip?
This may be very similar or the same.

I don’t think it is the same. Tarzan’s Grip has a strong solvent smell – acetone? That would make it flammable as well.

Puzzle fixative has no solvent smell.

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Surely there is one industrial chemist left in the CSIRO that you can take this question to?

Sounds a lot like a high-strength wood glue that’s based on MUF: Melamine-fortified Urea Formaldehyde.

My second guess would be Rabbit Skin Glue.

Rule 303 said:

Sounds a lot like a high-strength wood glue that’s based on MUF: Melamine-fortified Urea Formaldehyde.

Piss off, you made that up!

sibeen said:

Piss off, you made that up!

Heh. I wish!

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Possibly the same question. What is the chemical formula for the original Tarzan’s Grip?
This may be very similar or the same.

I don’t think it is the same. Tarzan’s Grip has a strong solvent smell – acetone? That would make it flammable as well.

Puzzle fixative has no solvent smell.

no.. that’s another reason I didn’t mention it.. However your list required things that weren’t easily flammable.

though I’m not a chemist , from what I read we are looking at something with the attributes of shellac which require low flammability plus resistance to heat.

Another possibility is Resorcinol glue.

Tarzan’s Grip also make a modern wood-glue these days. it seems to be just like ordinary wood-glue.

Actually, Resorcinol glue dries red/brown. Scratch that from the list.

Rule 303 said:

Another possibility is Resorcinol glue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resorcinol_glue

Rule 303 said:

Actually, Resorcinol glue dries red/brown. Scratch that from the list.

beat me to it.

> Surely there is one industrial chemist left in the CSIRO that you can take this question to?

Darn good idea. I think I will.

MUF and Resorcinol – will look those up.

mollwollfumble said:

> Surely there is one industrial chemist left in the CSIRO that you can take this question to?

Darn good idea. I think I will.

MUF and Resorcinol – will look those up.

make sure he understands that you want a fixative rather than a glue.

mollwollfumble said:

MUF and Resorcinol – will look those up.

MUF is widely available as a Selley’s product called 308 Wood Glue.

roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

Actually, Resorcinol glue dries red/brown. Scratch that from the list.

beat me to it.

Me too.

By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings

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Who was that passing hero?

tauto said:

By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings

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Who was that passing hero?

shh
it is better to lubricate than laminate.

roughbarked said:

tauto said:

By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings

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Who was that passing hero?

shh
it is better to lubricate than laminate.

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Speedy maybe

tauto said:

roughbarked said:

tauto said:

By the way, many thanks to whoever on the Holiday Forum recommended Nivea Soft as a lubricant – it way outperforms all other lubricants for engineering purposes at room temperature and is also a perfect mould-release agent for castings

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Who was that passing hero?

shh
it is better to lubricate than laminate.

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Speedy maybe

lubrication keeps wheels turning. Laminating just hardens surfaces.

anyway, saliva can be a fixative in that sense. Of sealed with a kiss.

mollwollfumble said:

> Surely there is one industrial chemist left in the CSIRO that you can take this question to?

Darn good idea. I think I will.

MUF and Resorcinol – will look those up.

It’s not rubber based at all?

Lot of crafty stuff uses rubber based cements.

party_pants said:

Tarzan’s Grip also make a modern wood-glue these days. it seems to be just like ordinary wood-glue.

Old gag, little old lady goes into a hardware shop and asks for a grip of Tarzan’s tube, and the shop owner asks, “madam do you want the stuff that sticks, or the stick that stuffs?”