Date: 21/10/2014 19:01:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 613187
Subject: Aluminium question?

Am hoping to do the following. I want to put a venturi in an aluminium tube. Venturi ID needs to be small, of order 2.4 mm.

1) Get an aluminium tube with OD >= 30 mm.
2) Put it on a lathe and spin a short section (about 30 mm long) down to make the venturi. I can use a wood former if that helps.
3) Machine cut extra features on the tube, such as a screw thread on the inside.
4) Harden aluminium.

Can that be done? It’s like “aluminium spinning” but starts with a tube instead of a disk.
What grade of aluminium tube, if any, starts very soft but can be hardened?

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:19:00
From: Speedy
ID: 613193
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

mollwollfumble said:


Am hoping to do the following. I want to put a venturi in an aluminium tube. Venturi ID needs to be small, of order 2.4 mm.

1) Get an aluminium tube with OD >= 30 mm.
2) Put it on a lathe and spin a short section (about 30 mm long) down to make the venturi. I can use a wood former if that helps.
3) Machine cut extra features on the tube, such as a screw thread on the inside.
4) Harden aluminium.

Can that be done? It’s like “aluminium spinning” but starts with a tube instead of a disk.
What grade of aluminium tube, if any, starts very soft but can be hardened?

Mr Speedy (used to be a fitter/machinist) says:

- 6000 grade onward is weld-able grade

- to use bar, not tube, as you won’t be able to hold tube in a lathe

- aluminium cannot be hardened, but can be anodised, however anodising will make it brittle.

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:23:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 613197
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

> you won’t be able to hold tube in a lathe

D@#n. Why not?

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:27:00
From: Speedy
ID: 613201
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

mollwollfumble said:


> you won’t be able to hold tube in a lathe

D@#n. Why not?

It would crush

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:35:47
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 613207
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

mollwollfumble said:


> you won’t be able to hold tube in a lathe

D@#n. Why not?

you can,but you willneed a bar inside it toput it on a lathe

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:36:23
From: fsm
ID: 613208
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

You may be able to use a short length of bar that fits neatly into the end of the tube to stop the chuck from crushing the tube.

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:52:23
From: Speedy
ID: 613223
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

stumpy_seahorse said:


mollwollfumble said:

> you won’t be able to hold tube in a lathe

D@#n. Why not?

you can,but you willneed a bar inside it toput it on a lathe

Mr S – Why would you stuff around with doing this when you can simply use a bar of aluminium and “part it off”?

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:55:31
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 613227
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

Speedy said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

mollwollfumble said:

> you won’t be able to hold tube in a lathe

D@#n. Why not?

you can,but you willneed a bar inside it toput it on a lathe

Mr S – Why would you stuff around with doing this when you can simply use a bar of aluminium and “part it off”?

the fact that moll is attempting to make a venturi for a start.

tube will make that part much easier

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Date: 21/10/2014 19:58:59
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 613230
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

venturi for a rocket engine? get a lump of graphite. personally, it would be easier to turn a venturi rather than spinning one.

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Date: 23/10/2014 03:33:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 613958
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

mollwollfumble said:

I want to put a venturi in an aluminium tube.

Why?

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Date: 23/10/2014 09:21:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 613998
Subject: re: Aluminium question?

> Mr S – Why would you stuff around with doing this when you can simply use a bar of aluminium and “part it off”?

I’m actually paying someone to do that right now. But pushing a tube in would give a lighter-weight result, and be easier than making special tools to shape the inside of a venturi.

> you can,but you will need a bar inside it to put it on a lathe

It would be nice if a wooden bar inside would suffice.

> tube will make the venturi much easier

Yes.

> venturi for a rocket engine? get a lump of graphite. personally, it would be easier to turn a venturi rather than spinning one.

Yes, venturi for a rocket engine. Silly me, I already have a lump of graphite that I bought specifically for that purpose. I forgot all about it. Must dig it out ASAP.

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