Date: 26/08/2008 17:21:07
From: Crinkle
ID: 29702
Subject: Trojan virus

My computer has told me that it has had 4 hits of a Trojan virus this afternoon.

I also had a trojan virus hit last week.

My computer has deleted it but the only sites I have been on this afternoon are this one and Photobucket.

The first was before I went to Photobucket sooooooo has anyone else had the same message from their virus protection?

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Date: 26/08/2008 17:27:30
From: boppa
ID: 29704
Subject: re: Trojan virus

try techtalk (http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/techtalk/) but nobody else has commented on it

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Date: 26/08/2008 19:10:00
From: aquarium
ID: 29707
Subject: re: Trojan virus

viruses are sometimes mis-diagnosed. also certain anti-virus software likes to make a big song and dance about anything at all (e.g. tracking cookie) and report is as a “trojan”. make sure you use the best and latest anti-virus software, and not anti-virus software trying to make a name for itself (the company.)
if these were indeed true positive ids on 4 separate trojans…it’s quite possible that the trojans make have already been present on your system prior to them being reported.
decent anti-virus software tells you exactly the strain of a virus/trojan (not just deletes it) so you can check for further information.

the microsoft windows OS desktop is a truly scary place, especially for those that aren’t up to all the tech details, and even then things are fairly complex and not fully certain. i do recommend if at all possible to install say a linux or even windows clean installation, within which one loads virtual Windows (using the free vmware software)….and use the virtual based windows as the primary desktop. you can easily take regular snapshots of this virtual windows just by copying a single file, and can therefore revert to a fully fledged windows desktop from a prior backup. unfortunatelly there’s no other full-proof way of restoring windows to a known clean/working state. The usual registry backup coupled with a backup of windows and all programs on a drive are not a reliable restore point.

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Date: 26/08/2008 20:39:56
From: boppa
ID: 29718
Subject: re: Trojan virus

its not often that the system is that badly corrupted as to require a full reinstall, illago in techtalk is the abc tt spyware queen, altho quite a few others do it as well and they do quite a few a week with full instructions on the repair proceedures needed

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Date: 27/08/2008 15:15:35
From: Crinkle
ID: 29788
Subject: re: Trojan virus

Thanks for all that. It is dealt with at this end but I was just concerned someone might have had a virus and been unaware of it.

I’m not the most computer literate person and all the computer talk is just so many words to me.
I’m glad you others have a good grip on it all.

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Date: 27/08/2008 18:58:50
From: aquarium
ID: 29811
Subject: re: Trojan virus

whilst the setup of a virtual Windows is not easy to explain here, and is a process all of itself….once accomplished, a regular backup of a single file (which is where the entire virtual Windows lives) is a single click trail of Windows at any point in time. So if you ever suspect a corruption or virus, you simply pick a previous version of the virtual windows to start when starting up. I think this is much simpler than complicated procedures, when your anti-virus/anti-spyware/etc. programs fail to deal with something. No anti-virus/anti-spyware gives total piece of mind…worse yet, brand new threats require an update of these software to remain effective…and the resulting time gap between updates is when most infections occur. Which leaves non-tech savvy users having to deal with viruses first hand, editing the registry etc under the direction of others.
whilst the approach i’ve described may not be best possible solution…..ordinary computer users still find themselves exposed (and sometimes terrified) when they discover this to be true, even though they bought their latest computer, operating system (Windows), anti-virus and anti-spyware and firewall, and update all regularly. it’s a rather poor state of things. personally i think that we (all in general) deserve better, for all that time and money spent. it’s almost like looking after another child….and having to learn brain surgery when something goes wrong.

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Date: 27/08/2008 20:42:36
From: Crinkle
ID: 29815
Subject: re: Trojan virus

aquarium said:


whilst the setup of a virtual Windows is not easy to explain here, and is a process all of itself….once accomplished, a regular backup of a single file (which is where the entire virtual Windows lives) is a single click trail of Windows at any point in time. So if you ever suspect a corruption or virus, you simply pick a previous version of the virtual windows to start when starting up. I think this is much simpler than complicated procedures, when your anti-virus/anti-spyware/etc. programs fail to deal with something. No anti-virus/anti-spyware gives total piece of mind…worse yet, brand new threats require an update of these software to remain effective…and the resulting time gap between updates is when most infections occur. Which leaves non-tech savvy users having to deal with viruses first hand, editing the registry etc under the direction of others.
whilst the approach i’ve described may not be best possible solution…..ordinary computer users still find themselves exposed (and sometimes terrified) when they discover this to be true, even though they bought their latest computer, operating system (Windows), anti-virus and anti-spyware and firewall, and update all regularly. it’s a rather poor state of things. personally i think that we (all in general) deserve better, for all that time and money spent. it’s almost like looking after another child….and having to learn brain surgery when something goes wrong.

Thanks aquarium and food for thought.

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