Date: 23/10/2014 11:25:19
From: The_observer
ID: 614044
Subject: Shooting Santa to Save the World

After arriving at the “Nuclear Power Christmas Market” with what looks like
a Belgian FN assault rifle slung over her shoulder the beautiful Camille,
partner of Squarzoni, mingling amongst Christmas shoppers & their children, loudly proclaims –

“Today, choice about energy issues has been stolen from the people.
The decisions are all in the hands of politicians or big multinationals.
Economic motivations prevail over environmental needs.”

Camille, then setting the sight of her rifle on three men dressed in Santa costumes,
one holding bottles of Coca-Cola, and another taking a gift-wrapped parcel from a shelf, screams at the men –

“We produce more so we can consume more.”

The lovely & environmentally conscience Camille then lets those Santa’s have it.

she opens fire and the Santas scream in death agonies as bullets rip into their bodies,
with blood spattering. She continues firing as they start collapsing to the ground, while
a stream of ejected shell cases tumble in the foreground and Cokes and Christmas parcels
fly in the air. One Santa lifts his right hand as if to shield himself.

With their suits riddled with bullets and as the gore continues to spout Camille lectures the shocked shoppers & their children –

“On the demand side, it’s up to individuals, households, and local communities
to evaluate their own needs themselves, with an eye to conservation.”

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the above is an extract from ‘Climate Changed’ by graphic novelist Philippe Squarzoni,

is meant to symbolise the need to reduce consumerism and CO2 emissions,

and has been lauded by IPCC scientist Dr Jean Jouzel -

A vice-chair of the IPCC’s prestigious Working Group 1 (“The Physical Science Basis”) since 2008.
A drafting author, WG1 Summary for Policy-Makers of the 5th IPCC report
Review editor, sea level chapter, 5th report.
Bureau member, WG1, 4th report, 2007.
A drafting author, Summary for Policy-Makers, WG1 4th report.
Lead author, WG1, 4th report
Review editor, Paleoclimate chapter, 4th report.
French expert delegate to the IPCC 2nd and 3rd reports.

On the book’s back cover, Jouzel writes,

“What a marvellous way to convey the knowledge accumulated by our scientific community …
I am truly admiring of Philippe Squarzoni’s great scholarship on all facets of the climate problem…
An extremely well-documented work – which is, of course, essential for the perception of the message that it delivers.
But its principal merit is, in fact, in the quality of the narrative and the art.”

Merry Christmas forumites

http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/tony-thomas/2014/10/shooting-santa-save-world/

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:28:32
From: Cymek
ID: 614045
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:34:21
From: Cymek
ID: 614046
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

One of the biggest drawbacks to consumer technology is the idea that it’s all throwaway when the next model arrives even though the old model works fine. We don’t have to buy into this bullshit but the constant media bombardment and social manipulation by the companies that make them is very effective. I mean does Apple really accidently leak or allow some fanboi to get hold of a pre-release model left in a coffee shop or on the train or is it all a set up.

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:35:36
From: The_observer
ID: 614047
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:



did you have that on file, Camille

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:35:36
From: The_observer
ID: 614048
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:



did you have that on file, Camille

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:37:15
From: Cymek
ID: 614049
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

I googled I hate santa and got that image, the link is below

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002328939/3332467924_evil_santa_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:38:41
From: The_observer
ID: 614050
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:


One of the biggest drawbacks to consumer technology is the idea that it’s all throwaway when the next model arrives even though the old model works fine. We don’t have to buy into this bullshit but the constant media bombardment and social manipulation by the companies that make them is very effective. I mean does Apple really accidently leak or allow some fanboi to get hold of a pre-release model left in a coffee shop or on the train or is it all a set up.

well my previous plasma couldn’t play 3D movies

and my old dvd player couldn’t play Blue Ray

and my old phone wasn’t smart

I’m keeping up with the Mohammed’s

but only if it’s something that I’ll use

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:39:11
From: The_observer
ID: 614051
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:


I googled I hate santa and got that image, the link is below

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002328939/3332467924_evil_santa_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg

ok Camille, I believe you. just don’t shoot me

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:41:03
From: Cymek
ID: 614052
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The_observer said:


Cymek said:

One of the biggest drawbacks to consumer technology is the idea that it’s all throwaway when the next model arrives even though the old model works fine. We don’t have to buy into this bullshit but the constant media bombardment and social manipulation by the companies that make them is very effective. I mean does Apple really accidently leak or allow some fanboi to get hold of a pre-release model left in a coffee shop or on the train or is it all a set up.

well my previous plasma couldn’t play 3D movies

and my old dvd player couldn’t play Blue Ray

and my old phone wasn’t smart

I’m keeping up with the Mohammed’s

but only if it’s something that I’ll use

You can’t stifle technological advancement but is very wasteful, at least they are making an attempt to try and have a reasonable? percentage of it reusable/recyclable

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:43:47
From: The_observer
ID: 614053
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:


The_observer said:

Cymek said:

One of the biggest drawbacks to consumer technology is the idea that it’s all throwaway when the next model arrives even though the old model works fine. We don’t have to buy into this bullshit but the constant media bombardment and social manipulation by the companies that make them is very effective. I mean does Apple really accidently leak or allow some fanboi to get hold of a pre-release model left in a coffee shop or on the train or is it all a set up.

well my previous plasma couldn’t play 3D movies

and my old dvd player couldn’t play Blue Ray

and my old phone wasn’t smart

I’m keeping up with the Mohammed’s

but only if it’s something that I’ll use

You can’t stifle technological advancement

yes ya can

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:46:08
From: Cymek
ID: 614054
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The_observer said:


Cymek said:

The_observer said:

well my previous plasma couldn’t play 3D movies

and my old dvd player couldn’t play Blue Ray

and my old phone wasn’t smart

I’m keeping up with the Mohammed’s

but only if it’s something that I’ll use

You can’t stifle technological advancement

yes ya can

Not easily in a consumerist society but yes you can destroy, ban or repress knowledge.

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:49:03
From: The_observer
ID: 614056
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:


The_observer said:

Cymek said:

You can’t stifle technological advancement

yes ya can

Not easily in a consumerist society but yes you can destroy, ban or repress knowledge.

In any case, I think the ‘book’ is in very poor taste & “endorses a preening, totalitarian disdain for the lives and rights of others”.

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:50:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 614059
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

No point shooting Santas, there’s millions of them and they breed like rabbits.

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:52:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 614060
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

That comic does seem a very poor advertisement for environmentalism.

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Date: 23/10/2014 11:53:24
From: The_observer
ID: 614062
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Bubblecar said:


No point shooting Santas, there’s millions of them and they breed like rabbits.

don’t start on the Easter bunny

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:03:01
From: The_observer
ID: 614066
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Bubblecar said:


That comic does seem a very poor advertisement for environmentalism.

Cymek seems to have missed that, or not?

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:08:35
From: Cymek
ID: 614067
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The_observer said:


Bubblecar said:

That comic does seem a very poor advertisement for environmentalism.

Cymek seems to have missed that, or not?

I didn’t and I think a number of environmentalists are fanatical and unrealistic but it worrying (and its never been any different) that a few dictate to the many how its going to be, most of the few aren’t very wise

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:13:35
From: The_observer
ID: 614068
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Cymek said:


The_observer said:

Bubblecar said:

That comic does seem a very poor advertisement for environmentalism.

Cymek seems to have missed that, or not?

I didn’t and I think a number of environmentalists are fanatical and unrealistic but it worrying (and its never been any different) that a few dictate to the many how its going to be, most of the few aren’t very wise

people only make stuff that people want & use.

and remember what Camille says – “On the demand side, it’s up to individuals, households, and local communities to evaluate their own needs themselves, with an eye to conservation.”

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:16:02
From: The_observer
ID: 614070
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The book is a representation of the socialists hatred of capitalism.

their main gripe is a pure hatred of the rich

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:16:48
From: Cymek
ID: 614071
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The_observer said:


Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Cymek seems to have missed that, or not?

I didn’t and I think a number of environmentalists are fanatical and unrealistic but it worrying (and its never been any different) that a few dictate to the many how its going to be, most of the few aren’t very wise

people only make stuff that people want & use.

and remember what Camille says – “On the demand side, it’s up to individuals, households, and local communities to evaluate their own needs themselves, with an eye to conservation.”

Yes which is a fair point, I try to do it myself

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:17:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 614073
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The_observer said:


Bubblecar said:

No point shooting Santas, there’s millions of them and they breed like rabbits.

don’t start on the Easter bunny

A photo I doodled with a long time back

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Date: 23/10/2014 12:18:04
From: Cymek
ID: 614074
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

The_observer said:

The book is a representation of the socialists hatred of capitalism.

their main gripe is a pure hatred of the rich

Capitalism is about the best we’ve got so far

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Date: 23/10/2014 17:50:36
From: stan101
ID: 614300
Subject: re: Shooting Santa to Save the World

Santa claus is drinking beer
Trying not to worry
Hearing things he doesn’t want to hear
Cause he’s in a hurry to say goodbye
To say goodbye
Santa claus is drinking gin
Trying not to worry
Stops himself from listening in
Cause he’s in a hurry to say goodbye
To say goodbye

Apocalypso – its a special dance
Apocalypso – tell me why they’re trying to wipe the
Smile off santa’s face

White sheets and bright lights in the sky
Shining through his window
Santa claus is wondering why
There’s nothing on his radio – it must be time
To say goodbye

Tell me why they’re trying to wipe
Trying to wipe the smile of santa’s face

Wipe the smile off santa’s face and burning off his beard
Blow the roof off santa’s house and drying all his tears
Blow that smile off santa’s face and burning off his beard
Blow the roof off santa’s house and drying all his tears

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