Date: 7/11/2014 16:58:54
From: ms spock
ID: 624612
Subject: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

Most concerning…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hannahelliott/2013/10/28/the-best-seat-belts-for-your-dog/

All dog seat belts are not created equal. Just ask Lindsey Wolko.

“I had to slam on the brakes to avoid an accident, and Maggie was tangled in the tether,” said Wolko, who is the founder and CEO of the Center for Pet Safety. Maggie is a 30-pound English Cocker Spaniel. “She launched off the back seat into the front seat, and she was injured.”

That crash—Maggie made a full recovery after sustaining a strained spine and hips—got Wolko thinking. If Maggie had such a rough time in the car during a relatively minor crash, imagine what other dogs might endure in a serious collision. The worst part? Companies who make automotive pet restraints aren’t legally required to test their products before putting them to market.

“It’s so intuitive for us to just reach over and strap a seat belt on, but people don’t think about using these products for their pets,” Wolko says. “It’s incredibly important.”

So in 2011 she conducted a pilot study of four seat belts that seemed to be the highest quality offered on the market. Not even one passed basic safety criteria.

“We had a 100-percent failure rate,” Wolko said. “The dogs were flying off the seats.”

That’s where Subaru came in. Executives there say two-thirds of its drivers own dogs (AAA reports that nearly 90% of U.S. pet owners say they travel with their pets)–so canine safety is particularly important to the brand. And after seeing Wolko talk about the crash test failures on morning talk shows, the automaker commissioned a full CPS report that tested belts for small, medium and large dogs in simulated crashes.

It worked as much to raise awareness about pet safety in cars as to call out faulty harnesses.

“The thing people don’t think about is that is like carrying an 80 pound sack of spuds behind your seat,” said Michael McHale, director of communications at Subaru of America. AAA says that a 10-pound unrestrained dog in a car traveling 30 miles an hour will exert 300 pounds of force during a crash.

The safety harness results reported last month weren’t great. Four of the seven brands tested had “catastrophic failure” during a crash, which CPS defines as allowing the dog to become a projectile or release from the restraint. Only Sleepypod’s Clickit Utility Harness consistently kept dogs from launching off the seat; it was the only restraint deemed to offer substantial protection to all passengers including the dog.

The other belts? They ripped, tore, stretched and broke in crucial areas, releasing the fake test pooches as missiles thrown across the vehicle. Some broke “legs” and “ribs.” Others were decapitated.

Behind the Numbers
To compile the report, CPS recreated the same crash tests used to rate child safety products. Subaru and CPS enlisted MGA Research Corporation, an independent lab often contracted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, to study commonly available pet safety harnesses.

Testing included fake dogs built around steel frames–a 25-pound “terrier mix,” a 45-pound “border collie,” and a 75-pound “golden retriever.” The models were weighted and packed to give a realistic representation of a dog’s body. Each device was also fitted with internal computer instrumentation to measure harness performance and collect baseline data.

The ultimate goal of each harness is to maintain the dog’s stability and restrain movement under duress. Each should also help stabilize the dog’s spine and limit rotation during an accident in much the same way seat belts for humans work.

“It’s so intuitive for us to just reach over and strap a seat belt on, but people don’t think about using these products for their pets,” Wolko says. “It’s incredibly important.”

Important–with plenty of room for improvement. Subaru will soon offer Sleepypod’s Clickit Utility Harness as an optional accessory in its vehicles.

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Date: 7/11/2014 17:15:57
From: Cymek
ID: 624624
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

I imagine they would need to be similar to a baby four point harness to work

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Date: 7/11/2014 17:18:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 624625
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

Cymek said:


I imagine they would need to be similar to a baby four point harness to work

But will they be able to get their head out the window?

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Date: 7/11/2014 17:20:45
From: Cymek
ID: 624627
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

PermeateFree said:


Cymek said:

I imagine they would need to be similar to a baby four point harness to work

But will they be able to get their head out the window?

Possibly not, the dog would not be pleased

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Date: 7/11/2014 17:32:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 624644
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

The wording in Qld law isn’t very clear: it just says the dog can’t be a missile but doesn’t specifically state the dog must be restrained (or it didn’t, the last time I looked). The main problem with having a big dog in the back is that they stand on the seatbelt clacker thingy and can unrestrain themselves.

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Date: 7/11/2014 17:52:07
From: bucolic3401
ID: 624660
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

My dogs always came with me in the car. Regardless of being restrained or not, they broke wind with abandon. Anybody remember John Hepworth – “And they all wept fpr Henry the farting dog”.

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Date: 7/11/2014 17:56:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 624662
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

My dog loves car rides. Doesn’t care where we go, she just loves the car. And if there’s horses to bark at on the way, all the better.

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Date: 7/11/2014 19:50:49
From: buffy
ID: 624726
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

And if anyone is interested (I was) this is what it looks like:

http://sleepypod.com/clickit

Not sure what is available on the Australian market. We used to use harnesses we bought from the RSPCA about 20 years ago, but I have no idea where they have been put now. Our dogs quite quickly learnt to step on the release button, as someone mentioned in this thread. They also learn how to open electric windows too, and you have to use all your child locks….

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Date: 7/11/2014 19:53:41
From: buffy
ID: 624730
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

Seems it is still available:

https://www.worldforpets.com.au/products/70137?cat_slug=/Dog-Merchandise/Dog-Harnesses

It’s really not a seatbelt and isn’t meant to be. It’s to stop your dog from wandering around in the car and causing a hazard. In Mr buffy’s Forrester there is a cargo barrier and the dogs go behind that on rugs. We accept they may be injured in a major crash. But it’s not feasible to truss them up for travelling.

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Date: 7/11/2014 19:56:34
From: buffy
ID: 624733
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

If you want a walking and training harness, we found this one brilliant for Buschka. We can’t use a Halti on her, she has no nose to speak of. But this one controls around the shoulders.

http://sporn.com/training/sporn-halter/

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Date: 7/11/2014 19:57:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 624736
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

What about all the Aussie dogs that ride in the back of utes, and scare the wits out of cyclists by suddenly barking at them as they pass?

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Date: 7/11/2014 19:58:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 624738
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

Bubblecar said:


What about all the Aussie dogs that ride in the back of utes, and scare the wits out of cyclists by suddenly barking at them as they pass?

Those dogs are usually restrained, or become roadkill.

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Date: 7/11/2014 19:59:30
From: buffy
ID: 624740
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

Bubblecar said:


What about all the Aussie dogs that ride in the back of utes, and scare the wits out of cyclists by suddenly barking at them as they pass?

They have to be connected to the ute by a lead not long enough for them to hang themselves over the side……although I don’t think that is complied with too often. You can be fined for having a loose dog….it’s the same as an unsecured load.

:)

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Date: 7/11/2014 20:44:02
From: ms spock
ID: 624799
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

Thanks this is very helpful.

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Date: 7/11/2014 22:21:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 624816
Subject: re: Dog Harness that you have used? Any Suggestions?

> “It’s so intuitive for us to just reach over and strap a seat belt on, but people don’t think about using these products for their pets,” Wolko says. “It’s incredibly important.”

I totally agree with that. I would have mandated car pet restraints, and seatbelts in buses, in the same legislation that gave us seatbelts. IMHO that legislation was extremely poorly written.

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