Date: 24/11/2014 15:00:23
From: dv
ID: 633341
Subject: What you need

*Kinetic energy

There are limits to the temperatures that the human body can endure for long periods. Humans make their own heat but unless it is caught in someway by appropriate shelter or clothing, they’ll need ambient temperatures in a suitable range.

*Water in diet

You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive.

*Radiation

You can live without sunlight (UV) if you receive enough Vitamin D in your diet. This could be considered a conditional necessity.
There is some evidence that a certain level of high energy radiation is required for optimal health but this remains controversial. You’ll live without it.

*Essential fatty acids in diet

There are only two, for humans: omega-3 and omega-6.
Some others are considered beneficial, or may play a crucial role in specific circumstances.

*Essential amino acids in diet

There are nine of these, for humans: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, valine.
Some others are considered beneficial, or may play a crucial role in specific circumstances.

*Insoluble fibre in diet

A lack of insoluble fibre leads to increase chance of illness and death for various reasons.

*Dietary energy

Humans need a certain amount of dietary energy intake to cover their metabolic needs and activity. This could come from fats, proteins or carbohydrates, or to a lesser extent from some compounds that don’t fall in any of those categories.

*Vitamins in diet

There are 12 compounds that fit the strict definition of vitamin for humans: vitamins A, C, E, K, B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B7, B9, B12.

Vitamin D is often included in lists of vitamins, but a well-sunned human will produce enough D to survive. It is a conditional necessity.

*Elements in diet

Humans need H, N, C, O for many specialised reasons but If your diet contains enough water to cover your basic hydration then it will cover any other needs for H and O, if it contains enough C-compounds to cover your energy needs then it will cover your other needs for C, and if it contains enough amino acids, then it will cover your other needs for N and S. So CNOHS is not normally included in this list…

This list contains K, Na, Ca, Mg, F, Cl, Br, I, S, Se, P, Mn, Fe, Co, Ni, Cu, Zn, Mo.
It may contain others including As, B, V.
It should be noted that particularly for the transition metals, humans may require the metal ions to be chelated in specific ways in order to be able to digest them. Eating a spoon of iron filings will not be an efficient way of introducing iron into your body.

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Date: 24/11/2014 15:18:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 633347
Subject: re: What you need

it’s the one thing

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:05:00
From: Michael V
ID: 633352
Subject: re: What you need
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Date: 24/11/2014 16:08:29
From: Cymek
ID: 633353
Subject: re: What you need

Michael V said:

  • Sufficient companionship to survive (eg. friend, lover)

For emotional/physical needs or someone to care for you if sick, or call for help if you are injured.

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:14:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 633356
Subject: re: What you need

All you need is lerv.

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:21:10
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 633357
Subject: re: What you need

Composition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

Main article: Composition of the human body
The main elements that compose the human body are shown from most abundant to least abundant.

The average adult body contains between 5 and 5½ litres of blood and approximately 10 litres of interstitial fluid.

The composition of the human body can be referred to in terms of its water content, elements content, tissue types or material types. The adult human body contains approximately 60% water, and so makes up a significant proportion of the body, both in terms of weight and volume. Water content can vary from a high 75% in a newborn infant to a lower 45% in an obese person. (These figures are necessarily statistical averages).

The vast majority of cells in the human body are not human at all; rather they are of bacteria, archaea, and methanogens such as Methanobrevibacter smithii. The largest proportion of these form the gut flora. The whole population of microbiota include microorganisms of the skin and other body parts and this altogether is termed as the human microbiome.

The proportions of the elements of the body can be referred to in terms of the main elements, minor ones and trace elements. Material type may also be referred to as including water, protein, connective tissue, fats, carbohydrates and bone.

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:22:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 633358
Subject: re: What you need

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:23:51
From: dv
ID: 633359
Subject: re: What you need

Although the composition is interesting, note that the body contains scores of elements that are definitely not required, including gold, caesium, bismuth and lead.

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:24:13
From: sibeen
ID: 633360
Subject: re: What you need

The Rev Dodgson said:


All you need is lerv.

…and a great big mountain top.

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:27:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 633361
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


Although the composition is interesting, note that the body contains scores of elements that are definitely not required, including gold, caesium, bismuth and lead.

yes, some elements are not required

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Date: 24/11/2014 16:32:15
From: dv
ID: 633363
Subject: re: What you need

CrazyNeutrino said:


dv said:

Although the composition is interesting, note that the body contains scores of elements that are definitely not required, including gold, caesium, bismuth and lead.

yes, some elements are not required

Only 23 are required, with question marks around another half dozen, and some of the unneeded ones are more common than the needed ones.

e.g. The rarest element by human body composition that IS required by humans is cobalt, which makes up about 20 parts per billion. The commonest that is probably NOT required is rubidium, about five parts per million.

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:39:20
From: Dropbear
ID: 633397
Subject: re: What you need

A sea and a ship to sail her

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:41:21
From: dv
ID: 633399
Subject: re: What you need

Dropbear said:


A sea and a ship to sail her

IDGI

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:46:30
From: dv
ID: 633401
Subject: re: What you need

How about a sherry vape?

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:46:44
From: Neophyte
ID: 633402
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


Dropbear said:

A sea and a ship to sail her

IDGI

He may be thinking of…

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

from Sea Fever, by John Masefield

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:47:47
From: dv
ID: 633404
Subject: re: What you need

Neophyte said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

A sea and a ship to sail her

IDGI

He may be thinking of…

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

from Sea Fever, by John Masefield

Does not seem pig related

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:51:59
From: Neophyte
ID: 633409
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


Neophyte said:

dv said:

IDGI

He may be thinking of…

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

from Sea Fever, by John Masefield

Does not seem pig related

It’s considered bad luck to mention pigs when on board a ship.

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:52:00
From: Neophyte
ID: 633410
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


Neophyte said:

dv said:

IDGI

He may be thinking of…

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

from Sea Fever, by John Masefield

Does not seem pig related

It’s considered bad luck to mention pigs when on board a ship.

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:53:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 633412
Subject: re: What you need

Neophyte said:


It’s considered bad luck to mention pigs when on board a ship.

So they pretend their diet of salt pork and rum is actually hen & sherry.

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:53:33
From: Neophyte
ID: 633413
Subject: re: What you need

Not bad luck to mention it twice, though.

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:54:43
From: furious
ID: 633415
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Date: 24/11/2014 17:54:58
From: Neophyte
ID: 633416
Subject: re: What you need

“Atlantic seamen in the West Indies had a bizarre superstition related to swine. Pigs themselves were held at great respect because they possessed cloven hooves just like the devil and the pig was the signature animal for the Great Earth Goddess who controlled the winds. As a result, these fishermen never spoke the word “pig” out loud, instead referring to the animal by such safe nicknames as Curly-Tail and Turf-Rooter. It was believed that mentioning the word “pig” would result in strong winds. Actually killing a pig on board the ship would result in a full scale storm.”

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:56:58
From: dv
ID: 633419
Subject: re: What you need

“Actually killing a pig on board the ship would result in a full scale storm.”

S’ow is that meant to work…

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:57:33
From: Cymek
ID: 633420
Subject: re: What you need

I never knew until looking that the Murray River chocolate factory has an outlet in Perth city, getting Mrs Cymek some for her birthday tommorow

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Date: 24/11/2014 17:58:08
From: Cymek
ID: 633421
Subject: re: What you need

Neophyte said:


“Atlantic seamen in the West Indies had a bizarre superstition related to swine. Pigs themselves were held at great respect because they possessed cloven hooves just like the devil and the pig was the signature animal for the Great Earth Goddess who controlled the winds. As a result, these fishermen never spoke the word “pig” out loud, instead referring to the animal by such safe nicknames as Curly-Tail and Turf-Rooter. It was believed that mentioning the word “pig” would result in strong winds. Actually killing a pig on board the ship would result in a full scale storm.”

The Macbeth of the sea

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:03:41
From: Neophyte
ID: 633427
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


“Actually killing a pig on board the ship would result in a full scale storm.”

S’ow is that meant to work…

The answer would boar you

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:19:00
From: dv
ID: 633433
Subject: re: What you need

Neophyte said:


dv said:

“Actually killing a pig on board the ship would result in a full scale storm.”

S’ow is that meant to work…

The answer would boar you

I think we’ve pushed this barrow far enough

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:19:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 633434
Subject: re: What you need

“You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive. “

So obviously there are beverages that don’t contain h20.

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:22:18
From: Cymek
ID: 633437
Subject: re: What you need

Peak Warming Man said:


“You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive. “

So obviously there are beverages that don’t contain h20.

Wouldn’t all beverages have some H20

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:25:26
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 633438
Subject: re: What you need

Cymek said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive. “

So obviously there are beverages that don’t contain h20.

Wouldn’t all beverages have some H20

I would have thought so.

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:30:43
From: dv
ID: 633444
Subject: re: What you need

Peak Warming Man said:


“You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive. “

So obviously there are beverages that don’t contain h20.

Well I suppose at a pinch honey could be considered a beverage.

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:46:03
From: Michael V
ID: 633453
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive. “

So obviously there are beverages that don’t contain h20.

Well I suppose at a pinch honey could be considered a beverage.

EtOH, too.

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:47:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 633454
Subject: re: What you need

Peak Warming Man said:


Speaking of old bastards haven’t seen Bob from Blackrock about lately.
He usually staggers out into the sunlight on Armistice Day to recite a poem or tell a bawdy joke from the twenties,

He hasn’t peeped in for a few weeks. I was hoping he’d see the thread about enhancing human memory, since he was suffering from a lot of short term memory problems. Might have cheered him up.

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:54:19
From: dv
ID: 633462
Subject: re: What you need

Michael V said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

“You don’t need to drink water to live, and you can generate some of the water you need from the fats, proteins, and carbohydrates in your diet, but you will need to have some H2O in your food or beverages to survive. “

So obviously there are beverages that don’t contain h20.

Well I suppose at a pinch honey could be considered a beverage.

EtOH, too.

I suppose you could have a sip of vegetable oil but I wouldn’t recommend it.

In any case, what I said did NOT imply the existence of anhydrous beverages.

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Date: 24/11/2014 18:57:33
From: Dropbear
ID: 633467
Subject: re: What you need

dv said:


Dropbear said:

A sea and a ship to sail her

IDGI

And it’s only other gets would understand.. But yes, Neophyte has the jist

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Date: 24/11/2014 19:06:34
From: Dropbear
ID: 633478
Subject: re: What you need

Dropbear said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

A sea and a ship to sail her

IDGI

And it’s only other gets would understand.. But yes, Neophyte has the jist


Vets too

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Date: 25/11/2014 07:30:27
From: Divine Angel
ID: 633718
Subject: re: What you need

Re: Vit D.

Do places such as Norway have fortified foods containing vit D? Australia does and we’re the sunny country, so I would assume that having six months of darkness would also necessitate vit D added to foods.

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Date: 25/11/2014 07:55:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 633725
Subject: re: What you need

morning, back to a much more pleasant temp of 11 degrees with a top of 23. Norway has fortified milk and bread, but it’s not mandatory so you’d have to specifically select those foods for vit d.

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Date: 25/11/2014 08:02:16
From: Divine Angel
ID: 633726
Subject: re: What you need

A quick Google suggests non-Western people in Norway are more at risk of rickets, especially the Pakistani population.

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