And the internet explodes due to irony overload..

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/george-brandis-hides-his-metadata-20141127-11v3da.html

According to Mr Brandis’ chief of staff, the decision to entirely censor the bill was due to it containing “personal information about a number of individuals’ telephone numbers”, as well as the time and origin of calls, reports technology publication ZDNet.

“Disclosure of the personal information in the document is unreasonable,” Mr Brandis’ chief of staff Paul O’Sullivan said, adding that who the minister called was not relevant.

Dropbear said:

And the internet explodes due to irony overload..

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/george-brandis-hides-his-metadata-20141127-11v3da.html

According to Mr Brandis’ chief of staff, the decision to entirely censor the bill was due to it containing “personal information about a number of individuals’ telephone numbers”, as well as the time and origin of calls, reports technology publication ZDNet.

“Disclosure of the personal information in the document is unreasonable,” Mr Brandis’ chief of staff Paul O’Sullivan said, adding that who the minister called was not relevant.

Metadata is just a record of the number you have called and how long you have spoken, it’s not a record of what you spoke about..

hang on a sec…

Brandis refuses to answer questions in the Senate concerning new terror laws

Pyne, Johnston, Brandis, so many stars for the govt this week.

dv said:

Brandis refuses to answer questions in the Senate concerning new terror laws

Pyne, Johnston, Brandis, so many stars for the govt this week.

OMG that is a shocker…

the senate really is a different world to the HoR

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

Brandis refuses to answer questions in the Senate concerning new terror laws

Pyne, Johnston, Brandis, so many stars for the govt this week.

OMG that is a shocker…

the senate really is a different world to the HoR

Easy to categorise Libs as having a “born to rule” attitude but this mob really seem to not give half a crap what the voters, their employers, think.

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

Brandis refuses to answer questions in the Senate concerning new terror laws

Pyne, Johnston, Brandis, so many stars for the govt this week.

OMG that is a shocker…

the senate really is a different world to the HoR

Easy to categorise Libs as having a “born to rule” attitude but this mob really seem to not give half a crap what the voters, their employers, think.

I thought their employers were News Corpse and the conservative think tanks

Spiny Norman said:

!http://www.billzilla.org/forumpics/dont%20vote.jpg

totally independent politics would get us nowhere… and in any case, our electoral system devolves to a two-party basis as a matter of course (it’s unavoidable)

diddly-squat said:

Spiny Norman said:

!http://www.billzilla.org/forumpics/dont%20vote.jpg

totally independent politics would get us nowhere… and in any case, our electoral system devolves to a two-party basis as a matter of course (it’s unavoidable)

plenty of modern democracies don’t involve two parties….

most of them are fairly non functional… still.. so is ours lately.

Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

Spiny Norman said:

!http://www.billzilla.org/forumpics/dont%20vote.jpg

totally independent politics would get us nowhere… and in any case, our electoral system devolves to a two-party basis as a matter of course (it’s unavoidable)

plenty of modern democracies don’t involve two parties….

most of them are fairly non functional… still.. so is ours lately.

over time our preferential voting system tends towards a “two party” state, it’s unavoidable

diddly-squat said:

Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

totally independent politics would get us nowhere… and in any case, our electoral system devolves to a two-party basis as a matter of course (it’s unavoidable)

plenty of modern democracies don’t involve two parties….

most of them are fairly non functional… still.. so is ours lately.

over time our preferential voting system tends towards a “two party” state, it’s unavoidable

(shrugs) there’s no preferential voting in the US and they are even more of a two party state than Australia is.

With regard to dysfunctionality of many-party systems, there are counterexamples. Italy is always a shitfight, but Germany works reasonably well with broad coalitions.

I know it’s a carefully chosen photo….but whoever that is sitting beside him looks embarrassed….

buffy said:

I know it’s a carefully chosen photo….but whoever that is sitting beside him looks embarrassed….

As well they might.

I’ll show you mine if you show me yours

so If I declare my metadata private, you cannot see it

CrazyNeutrino said:

I’ll show you mine if you show me yours

so If I declare my metadata private, you cannot see it

Wookie wants his handle back

It’s not the preferential voting (which actually encourages small parties, relative to first-past-the-post) it’s the single member electorates. Proportional systems tend to produce more power-sharing governments; multi-member electorates like Tas are in-between.

So if Brandis wont show his his metadata, does that mean other people dont have to