Date: 28/11/2014 03:18:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 635480
Subject: Citizen Science Higgs

Hey there,

Today we launched our latest citizen science project, and it’s a real beauty!

On Higgs Hunters we need you to look through data from the ATLAS experiment at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider, where protons are smashed together at one billion kilometres per hour in order to create new particles and give us a better understanding of the building blocks that make up our Universe.

Specifically we are asking you to search through roughly 90,000 images from the ATLAS detector for tiny sub-atomic explosions caused when a Higgs boson ‘dies’, which some scientists think could generate a new kind of particle, previously undetected.

Begin your search for new and exciting particles now at www.higgshunters.org

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Date: 28/11/2014 03:20:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 635481
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

Apologies for broken link. Try again. http://www.higgshunters.org/

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:19:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 635489
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

A billion kph?

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:26:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 635491
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

Never mind, I’ve just learned that a million million is now out of favour as a billion.

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:51:26
From: dv
ID: 635492
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

Divine Angel said:


Never mind, I’ve just learned that a million million is now out of favour as a billion.

Um, people stopped that shit long before I, let alone you, we’re born.

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:54:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 635493
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

The NSW education system must have been really behind the times when I was at school then.

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:55:55
From: poikilotherm
ID: 635494
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

Never mind, I’ve just learned that a million million is now out of favour as a billion.

Um, people stopped that shit long before I, let alone you, we’re born.

Are we now

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:55:57
From: buffy
ID: 635495
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

So what is a billion then?

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:57:08
From: Divine Angel
ID: 635496
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

One thousand million. A million million is a trillion.

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Date: 28/11/2014 07:57:18
From: buffy
ID: 635497
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

It should really be a bi million, but it’s not.

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Date: 28/11/2014 08:04:07
From: wookiemeister
ID: 635498
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

The bi millennial falcon just never had the same ring to it

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Date: 28/11/2014 08:25:42
From: dv
ID: 635501
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

Divine Angel said:


The NSW education system must have been really behind the times when I was at school then.

Probably still is.

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Date: 28/11/2014 08:26:24
From: dv
ID: 635502
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

buffy said:

So what is a billion then?

FMD you people must be baffled when reading the newspapers.

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Date: 28/11/2014 08:32:31
From: dv
ID: 635504
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

The UK were the last holdouts in the English speaking world regarding the long billion and even they official gave up the ghost back in 1974.

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:11:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 635556
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

A billion is a thousand million, a billion-and-one is basically countless.

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:11:34
From: dv
ID: 635558
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

Bubblecar said:


A billion is a thousand million, a billion-and-one is basically countless.

Almost infinite?

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:24:54
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 635563
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

A billion is a thousand million, a billion-and-one is basically countless.

Almost infinite?

Nearly Infinite

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:38:21
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 635567
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

A billion should be a million million

see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion

The former British long scale billion of one million million, 1012, or 1,000,000,000,000

I think rich people and multimillionaires hijacked it to distinct themselves from plain millionaires, because it looks better for them

I think its annoying, and rather silly

Billion should be returned to its proper number value

I think mathematicians use billion as million million

bankers see it a thousand million

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:39:16
From: dv
ID: 635568
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

CrazyNeutrino said:

I think mathematicians use billion as million million

You think completely wrong. No one has used that in forty years.

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:40:35
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 635570
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

dv said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

I think mathematicians use billion as million million

You think completely wrong. No one has used that in forty years.

You didnt read it properly

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:42:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 635571
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

Apparently it still differs somewhat in various different language regions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales#Short_scale_users

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Date: 28/11/2014 11:43:57
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 635573
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

The former British long scale billion of one million million, 1012, or 1,000,000,000,000

I know we dont use it anymore

But what about maths

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Date: 29/11/2014 11:50:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 636119
Subject: re: Citizen Science Higgs

mollwollfumble said:


Hey there,

Today we launched our latest citizen science project, and it’s a real beauty!

On Higgs Hunters we need you to look through data from the ATLAS experiment at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider, where protons are smashed together at one billion kilometres per hour in order to create new particles and give us a better understanding of the building blocks that make up our Universe.

Specifically we are asking you to search through roughly 90,000 images from the ATLAS detector for tiny sub-atomic explosions caused when a Higgs boson ‘dies’, which some scientists think could generate a new kind of particle, previously undetected.

Begin your search for new and exciting particles now

I tend to find most of these “citizen science projects” too easy, and with inadequate training. If I could download the 90,000 images to work on at home I would. I would also like to see at least ten training examples, difficult cases where the result is known, to check that I was doing the right thing in advance. I had the same problem with the asteroid detection citizen science project.

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