Date: 3/12/2014 09:29:37
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 638237
Subject: Emotional Violence

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

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Date: 3/12/2014 09:31:11
From: Dropbear
ID: 638241
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

Who cares, big nose

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Date: 3/12/2014 09:32:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 638243
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

not good enough probably.

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Date: 3/12/2014 09:32:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 638245
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Dropbear said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

Who cares, big nose

sue does

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Date: 3/12/2014 09:37:02
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 638250
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Dropbear said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

Who cares, big nose

Negative response

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Date: 3/12/2014 09:43:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 638263
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


Dropbear said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

Who cares, big nose

Negative response

Well I care, and I take the big nose comment as a mind your own business attitude

I suppose you get care about women getting bashed up either because if you don’t care about Emotional Violence why should you care about Physical Violence?

they are both the same

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Date: 3/12/2014 22:17:17
From: Teleost
ID: 638759
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

not good enough probably.

Yep and not understood or recognised well enough.

Today one of my volunteers was subjected to an apocalyptic tirade from a client who I am beginning to think is somewhat unhinged. The guy is one of my best workers who was doing a job on her property free of charge. He’s a traditional owner of the area and has been working like a dog in the adjoining bushland areas and properties.

The poor bloke had to be taken home and I can only hope he agrees to come back.

Emotional violence from strangers to me is far worse than from friends or family to whom you can usually at least tell to fuck off.

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:14:24
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 638977
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

I am not familiar with the Law.

Emotional violence from strangers could be “road rage”.

I found a very brief mention about preparation for road rage laws from last year here

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:16:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 638979
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

If the emotional violence contains a threat of bodily violence then that counts as “assault” and is prosecuted accordingly.

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:19:52
From: Cymek
ID: 638983
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Teleost said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What are our laws here on Emotional Violence?

not good enough probably.

Yep and not understood or recognised well enough.

Today one of my volunteers was subjected to an apocalyptic tirade from a client who I am beginning to think is somewhat unhinged. The guy is one of my best workers who was doing a job on her property free of charge. He’s a traditional owner of the area and has been working like a dog in the adjoining bushland areas and properties.

The poor bloke had to be taken home and I can only hope he agrees to come back.

Emotional violence from strangers to me is far worse than from friends or family to whom you can usually at least tell to fuck off.

People can be charged for swearing, threats etc so their are protections in place to protect people minding their own business from others being nasty, usually though it’s all over before anything can be done.

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:22:06
From: Cymek
ID: 638986
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

mollwollfumble said:


If the emotional violence contains a threat of bodily violence then that counts as “assault” and is prosecuted accordingly.

Disorderly behaviour in public is someone ranting in a public place, what usually happens is the cops get involved ask the person to cease that behaviour they refuse and get arrested, its usually piss heads and those off their face on drugs

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:24:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 638989
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

If the emotional violence contains a threat of bodily violence then that counts as “assault” and is prosecuted accordingly.

Disorderly behaviour in public is someone ranting in a public place, what usually happens is the cops get involved ask the person to cease that behaviour they refuse and get arrested, its usually piss heads and those off their face on drugs

Or a typical day in Caboolture.

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:34:29
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640268
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

I got a bit emotionally unstable before, so I apologize

I see the human body as a body made up of 60+ chemicals which control all our 74 known emotions

see human body composition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

see Emotion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion

if someone is emotionally violent towards another person then by their action, that person is creating a chemical response in the person that the emotional violence is being directed to thus effecting an internal physical response

physical violence happens externally but can create internal damage

emotional violence happens internally creating an internal chemical response

ongoing emotional violence can create on going chemical responses that can lead to long term damage

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:39:34
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 640272
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

You are not making much sense.

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:44:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 640273
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

More sense than Wookie.

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:49:08
From: dv
ID: 640275
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

as a body made up of 60+ chemicals

——
ROFL

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:53:29
From: transition
ID: 640276
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

i’m taking questions…

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:54:00
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640277
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

dv said:

as a body made up of 60+ chemicals

——
ROFL

see Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

elements, chemicals, compounds etc

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Date: 5/12/2014 19:55:28
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640278
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Divine Angel said:


More sense than Wookie.

Thanks DA

Maybe other people haven’t been thinking it for very long

I have thinking about off and on and taking notes for the last two years

the theory looks promising

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:02:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 640279
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Divine Angel said:


More sense than Wookie.

I think that’s a given.

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:04:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 640280
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:

the theory looks promising

And which theory is that?

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:04:47
From: dv
ID: 640281
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


dv said:
as a body made up of 60+ chemicals

——
ROFL

see Wikipedia

I don’t need to see Wikipedia. The human body is made up of thousands of “chemicals”.

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:08:58
From: transition
ID: 640284
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milieu_interieur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostasis

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:10:17
From: pommiejohn
ID: 640285
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

dv said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

dv said:
as a body made up of 60+ chemicals

——
ROFL

see Wikipedia

I don’t need to see Wikipedia. The human body is made up of thousands of “chemicals”.

Wiki, in its wisdo“m says this

“The average 70 kg adult human body contains approximately 7 × 1027 atoms and contains at least detectable traces of 60 chemical elements.”

Obviously chemicals and chemical elements are different

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:14:20
From: dv
ID: 640288
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

pommiejohn said:


dv said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

see Wikipedia

I don’t need to see Wikipedia. The human body is made up of thousands of “chemicals”.

Wiki, in its wisdo“m says this

“The average 70 kg adult human body contains approximately 7 × 1027 atoms and contains at least detectable traces of 60 chemical elements.”

Obviously chemicals and chemical elements are different

(shrugs) Yes, obviously.

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:16:00
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640289
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Its one of my observations with new ideas that people will poo poo it, because its new to them and that they haven’t given it much thought

if you dont wish to look at the wikipedia article on Composition of the human body, that’s up to you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

here is a interesting quick over view of the human body

http://course.zju.edu.cn/532/study/theory/1/int/pdf/introduction.pdf

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:17:10
From: Boris
ID: 640290
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFeWw2YFXlM

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:17:34
From: dv
ID: 640291
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


Its one of my observations with new ideas that people will poo poo it, because its new to them and that they haven’t given it much thought

if you dont wish to look at the wikipedia article on Composition of the human body, that’s up to you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

here is a interesting quick over view of the human body

http://course.zju.edu.cn/532/study/theory/1/int/pdf/introduction.pdf

Crazy, I’m one of the authors of the wikipedia page on the composition of the human body.

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:20:26
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 640294
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


Its one of my observations with new ideas that people will poo poo it, because its new to them and that they haven’t given it much thought

if you dont wish to look at the wikipedia article on Composition of the human body, that’s up to you


What has the chemical make-up of the body got to do with ‘emotional violence’ as you call it?

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:22:57
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640296
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Here is a list of emotions, they all have one thing in common, they all create a physical sensation within the body

emotions come from the electro-chemical body

Affection
Anger
Angst
Anguish
Annoyance
Anxiety
Apathy
Arousal
Awe
Boredom
Confidence
Contempt
Contentment
Courage
Curiosity
Depression
Desire
Despair
Disappointment
Disgust
Distrust
Dread
Ecstasy
Embarrassment
Envy
Euphoria
Excitement
Fear
Frustration
Gratitude
Grief
Guilt
Happiness
Hatred
Hope
Horror
Hostility
Hurt
Hysteria
Indifference
Interest
Jealousy
Joy
Loathing
Loneliness
Love
Lust
Outrage
Panic
Passion
Pity
Pleasure
Pride
Rage
Regret
Relief
Remorse
Sadness
Satisfaction
Schadenfreude
Self-confidence
Shame
Shock
Shyness
Sorrow
Suffering
Surprise
Terror
Trust
Wonder
Worry
Zeal
Zest

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:25:06
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640299
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Witty Rejoinder said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Its one of my observations with new ideas that people will poo poo it, because its new to them and that they haven’t given it much thought

if you dont wish to look at the wikipedia article on Composition of the human body, that’s up to you


What has the chemical make-up of the body got to do with ‘emotional violence’ as you call it?

Well if I call someone a bastard, they will react to it usually with anger, anger is an emotion

a physical sensation within the body

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:25:53
From: furious
ID: 640300
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Zest is a food ingredient that is prepared by scraping or cutting from the outer, colorful skin of unwaxed citrus fruits such as lemon, orange, citron, and lime. Zest is used to add flavor to foods.

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:27:01
From: furious
ID: 640302
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Not necessarily…

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:28:21
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640304
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

furious said:


Zest is a food ingredient that is prepared by scraping or cutting from the outer, colorful skin of unwaxed citrus fruits such as lemon, orange, citron, and lime. Zest is used to add flavor to foods.

Zest has more than one meaning

zest
zɛst/
noun
noun: zest; plural noun: zests 1. great enthusiasm and energy. “they campaigned with zest and intelligence” synonyms: enthusiasm, gusto, relish, zestfulness, appetite, eagerness, keenness, avidity, zeal, fervour, ardour, passion, love, enjoyment, joy, delight, excitement; More verve, vigour, liveliness, sparkle, fizz, effervescence, fire, animation, vitality, dynamism, energy, buoyancy, brio, bounce, pep, spirit, spiritedness, exuberance, high spirits, high-spiritedness; informalzing, zip, oomph, vim, pizzazz, get-up-and-go “she had a great zest for life” antonyms: apathy, indifference, distaste a quality of excitement and piquancy. “I used to try to beat past records to add zest to my monotonous job” synonyms: piquancy, tang, sharpness, tartness, flavour, flavouring, savour, taste, tastiness, pungency, spice, spiciness, relish, bite; More interest, an edge, effect, potency; informalkick, punch, zing, oomph “the slice of lemon in a gin and tonic is there to add zest” antonyms: blandness 2. the outer coloured part of the peel of citrus fruit, used as flavouring. “add 3 tablespoons of lemon zest” synonyms: rind, peel, skin, covering, outer layer; More technicalepicarp, pericarp, exocarp “add the finely grated zest of an orange”
verb
verb: zest; 3rd person present: zests; past tense: zested; past participle: zested; gerund or present participle: zesting 1. scrape off the outer coloured part of the peel of (a piece of citrus fruit) for use as flavouring. “zest the orange and lemon, taking care to discard all of the white pith”

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:29:33
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640306
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

furious said:

  • Well if I call someone a bastard, they will react to it usually with anger

Not necessarily…

people can react it different ways, it depends on ones mood

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:30:23
From: ratty one
ID: 640307
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


furious said:
  • Well if I call someone a bastard, they will react to it usually with anger

Not necessarily…

people can react it different ways, it depends on ones mood

yeah…people can change your mood!

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:32:18
From: party_pants
ID: 640310
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard!

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:33:30
From: furious
ID: 640313
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:34:08
From: furious
ID: 640315
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

That joke was borderline…

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:35:12
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 640318
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

party_pants said:


which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard!

I might have called the observer a bastard, because he isn’t good at observing

no doubt he will call me a pizza eating hippy

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:36:24
From: ratty one
ID: 640322
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


party_pants said:

which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard!

I might have called the observer a bastard, because he isn’t good at observing

no doubt he will call me a pizza eating hippy

A vegan pizza?

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:36:33
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 640323
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

CrazyNeutrino said:


party_pants said:

which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard!

I might have called the observer a bastard, because he isn’t good at observing

no doubt he will call me a pizza eating hippy

Just don’t call me late for dinner…

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Date: 5/12/2014 20:39:31
From: furious
ID: 640329
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

Borderline? What was I thinking? I obviously meant body line…

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Date: 6/12/2014 19:31:00
From: transition
ID: 640695
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Universals

“Human Universals is a book by Donald Brown, an American professor of anthropology (emeritus) who worked at the University of California, Santa Barbara. It was published by McGraw Hill in 1991. Brown says human universals, “comprise those features of culture, society, language, behavior, and psyche for which there are no known exception.” He is quoted at length by Steven Pinker in an appendix to The Blank Slate, where Pinker cites some of the hundreds of universals listed by Brown. However, Pinker’s universals are not unique to humans.”

“There are sixty-seven universals in the list: age-grading, athletic sports, bodily adornment, calendar, cleanliness training, community organization, cooking, cooperative labor, cosmology, courtship, dancing, decorative art, divination, division of labor, dream interpretation, education, eschatology, ethics, ethno-botany, etiquette, faith healing, family feasting, fire-making, folklore, food taboos, funeral rites, games, gestures, gift-giving, government, greetings, hair styles, hospitality, housing, hygiene, incest taboos, inheritance rules, joking, kin groups, kinship nomenclature, language, law, luck superstitions, magic, marriage, mealtimes, medicine, obstetrics, penal sanctions, personal names, population policy, postnatal care, pregnancy usages, property rights, propitiation of supernatural beings, puberty customs, religious ritual, residence rules, sexual restrictions, soul concepts, status differentiation, surgery, tool-making, trade, visiting, weather control, weaving”

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Date: 6/12/2014 19:33:34
From: transition
ID: 640696
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

of Brown’s quoted by Pinker

http://condor.depaul.edu/mfiddler/hyphen/humunivers.htm

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Date: 6/12/2014 20:11:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 640699
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

transition said:


of Brown’s quoted by Pinker

http://condor.depaul.edu/mfiddler/hyphen/humunivers.htm

i.e. just about anything you can think of.

Practical value/purpose = 0. Same as most sociological rubbish.

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Date: 6/12/2014 20:16:49
From: transition
ID: 640703
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

>Practical value/purpose = 0. Same as most sociological rubbish.

no worries, don’t be too hard on yourself.

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Date: 6/12/2014 20:17:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 640704
Subject: re: Emotional Violence

transition said:


>Practical value/purpose = 0. Same as most sociological rubbish.

no worries, don’t be too hard on yourself.

Someone has to be, dammit!

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