Date: 3/12/2014 09:31:04
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 638240
Subject: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

Okay, this made our eyes widen when we read it: A team of engineers at Stanford University has found a way to cool buildings by using interplanetary space as a heat sink. If the technique proves viable outside the lab, the breakthrough could mean it takes a lot less energy to keep buildings cool during the day. And the best part: The process uses no energy once installed.

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Date: 3/12/2014 19:15:13
From: wookiemeister
ID: 638636
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

Or white paint?

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Date: 3/12/2014 19:17:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 638642
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

wookiemeister said:


Or white paint?

Hmm, seems wookie and I have had a similar thought.

I’d better re-think.

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Date: 3/12/2014 19:18:49
From: Cymek
ID: 638644
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

wookiemeister said:


Or white paint?

I’d prefer they turned off artificial lighting on sunny days and we make do with what comes in through the windows

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Date: 3/12/2014 19:20:08
From: Cymek
ID: 638646
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

The Rev Dodgson said:


wookiemeister said:

Or white paint?

Hmm, seems wookie and I have had a similar thought.

I’d better re-think.

You’re becoming part of his collective, its the slowly slowly approach

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Date: 3/12/2014 19:21:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 638647
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

…. runs away quickly.

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Date: 3/12/2014 19:24:31
From: wookiemeister
ID: 638649
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

I like to call it

The Borg

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Date: 3/12/2014 20:41:54
From: Arts
ID: 638696
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

didn’t they make a building with mirrors and it melted a car of something?

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Date: 3/12/2014 20:46:22
From: Arts
ID: 638699
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23944679

I knew it.. thanks lurker.

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Date: 4/12/2014 01:43:53
From: dv
ID: 638816
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

lurker?

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Date: 4/12/2014 01:48:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 638817
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

dv said:


lurker?

rainbow cloud_3

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:03:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 638973
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

> A team of engineers at Stanford University has found a way to cool buildings by using interplanetary space as a heat sink.

LOL. Yes. I’ve actually done some calculations of using interplanetary space as a heat sink for buildings as part of my CSIRO work.

And no, we’re not talking white paint, we’re talking black paint.

Radiation from a building can be intercepted by other objects on the ground, by the atmosphere and clouds, or be emitted straight to outer space. When I mathematically switched off thermal convection in the air, the resulting “undercooling” at night of building surfaces would drop the building surface temperatures to about 20 degrees C below that of the local atmosphere. When thermal convection in the atmosphere was mathematically switched back on the building surface becomes 1 to 2 degrees C cooler than the atmosphere. This is known as “undercooling”.

For the work I was doing this undercooling due to radiation to space was bad news. At times of high humidity the local drop in temperature results in condensation, and the thin layer of water formed is the worst possible situation with regards to rusting – there’s not enough water to oxygen and salt electrolytes block the access of . Most of the rusting of Australia’s galvanised iron roofs is due to this undercooling created by radiation to space. Ditto for rusting of tools inside sheds and factories.

Another view on this is seen in Frank Herbert’s book Dune, where “dew collectors” are thermoplastics that turn white during the day to keep cool and turn black during the night to radiate excess heat to space to collect as much dew as possible.

A maximum undercooling material that does not rely on colour change would be one that is reflective at short wavelengths (350 to 750 nm) and completely non-reflective a long wavelengths (longer than 3 micrometres).

Anyway, if following the strategy proposed in the article, BEWARE OF CONDENSATION.

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:04:17
From: dv
ID: 638974
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

Calling occupants

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Date: 4/12/2014 11:07:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 638975
Subject: re: No Power Needed: High-Tech Mirrors Could Cool Buildings

> there’s not enough water to oxygen and salt electrolytes block the access of . Most of the rusting of Australia’s galvanised iron roofs is due to this undercooling created by radiation to space.

Should read …

there’s not enough condensation water to block the simultaneous access of oxygen and salt electrolytes to the corrosion sites.

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