Date: 12/12/2014 21:45:06
From: ms spock
ID: 644738
Subject: Borg Like Snails

My experience of snails in a vegie patch and garden I am looking after feels like I am engaging the borg, except they don’t assimilate me and are snails.

Those damn snails keep munching away and have recently eaten three lettuces.

How can I wage a war on these snails, not using anything toxic?

I am happy to blow them up but as I have no explosives expertise I will leave that to the experts, (and people on this forum) hehehe.

Any suggestions.

Nuking from outer space is already on the list. But I have no satellite or nukes to call my own, and it might be overkill.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:46:45
From: ratty one
ID: 644742
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

salt around the perimeter of the garden but…….salt can affect the garden bed so….must be surrounding the perimeter

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:49:10
From: ratty one
ID: 644748
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

slugs and snails will die if salt is sprinkled onto them but that is cruel

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:49:11
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644749
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Fuckem, snailbait. Though if you want to go hippy I have read you can sink saucers of beer into the garden and they die pissed and happy.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:49:47
From: party_pants
ID: 644751
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Some kind of physical barrier:

Some kind of plastic mesh they can’t climb up
or some fence that curves outwards and back over itself so they fall back down
or something smeared on a fence that repels them. Not toxic but enough to turn them back.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:50:42
From: ratty one
ID: 644753
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

party_pants said:


Some kind of physical barrier:

Some kind of plastic mesh they can’t climb up
or some fence that curves outwards and back over itself so they fall back down
or something smeared on a fence that repels them. Not toxic but enough to turn them back.

they climb

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:52:21
From: Speedy
ID: 644755
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

AwesomeO said:


Though if you want to go hippy I have read you can sink saucers of beer into the garden and they die pissed and happy.

Yes, I’ve heard about leaving dishes of beer around the place. I’m sure some would call it a waste though, preferring to lose the lettuces.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:52:49
From: Boris
ID: 644756
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

they climb

then absnail down the other side.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:53:24
From: party_pants
ID: 644759
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


party_pants said:

Some kind of physical barrier:

Some kind of plastic mesh they can’t climb up
or some fence that curves outwards and back over itself so they fall back down
or something smeared on a fence that repels them. Not toxic but enough to turn them back.

they climb

Yeah, some kind of fence they can’t climb over.

Once the fence is up you’d have to go and remove by hand all those inside. Just hope that no more can get in.

But not sure what to do about caterpillars.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:54:18
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644761
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

You could next year consider growing lettuce in a container with a water trap around it.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:54:30
From: party_pants
ID: 644762
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Speedy said:


AwesomeO said:

Though if you want to go hippy I have read you can sink saucers of beer into the garden and they die pissed and happy.

Yes, I’ve heard about leaving dishes of beer around the place. I’m sure some would call it a waste though, preferring to lose the lettuces.

That’s what they sell Emu Export and Southwark for. They are labelled not for human consumption but some people still drink them anyway.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:55:27
From: ratty one
ID: 644764
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060911010030AA6FTPu

The death knoll for slugs and snails is summed up in one word:

Osmosis. Slugs and snails have a higher percentage of their body-weight made up of water, then other animals. Also, their skin is a much more permeable covering then average. When you salt a slug or snail, this increases the concentration of salt on the surface (outside) of the unfortunate subject. From a different perspective, this is DECREASING the water concentration outside the slug/snail. The process of osmosis is the movement of water from an area of high water concentration through a permeable membrane to an area of lower water concentration. The water INSIDE the slug MOVES OUTSIDE the slug, in order to reach an equilibrium concentration on both sides of the skin. Unfortunately, this means that the slug/snail is now much drier then it can tolerate. It literally dies of dehydration
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Date: 12/12/2014 21:55:31
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644765
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

party_pants said:


Speedy said:

AwesomeO said:

Though if you want to go hippy I have read you can sink saucers of beer into the garden and they die pissed and happy.

Yes, I’ve heard about leaving dishes of beer around the place. I’m sure some would call it a waste though, preferring to lose the lettuces.

That’s what they sell Emu Export and Southwark for. They are labelled not for human consumption but some people still drink them anyway.

Bathing beer.

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:57:36
From: ratty one
ID: 644767
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060911010030AA6FTPu

The death knoll for slugs and snails is summed up in one word:

Osmosis. Slugs and snails have a higher percentage of their body-weight made up of water, then other animals. Also, their skin is a much more permeable covering then average. When you salt a slug or snail, this increases the concentration of salt on the surface (outside) of the unfortunate subject. From a different perspective, this is DECREASING the water concentration outside the slug/snail. The process of osmosis is the movement of water from an area of high water concentration through a permeable membrane to an area of lower water concentration. The water INSIDE the slug MOVES OUTSIDE the slug, in order to reach an equilibrium concentration on both sides of the skin. Unfortunately, this means that the slug/snail is now much drier then it can tolerate. It literally dies of dehydration

so… if you put a salt trail the slug or snail will recoil and avoid

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:58:23
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 644768
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

snail-sized land-mines???

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Date: 12/12/2014 21:58:40
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644769
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Sprinkling salt around your lettuce is not a good idea for your garden but I wonder if you could get the same results from a wall of nitrates?

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:01:04
From: tauto
ID: 644770
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Boris said:


they climb

then absnail down the other side.

Worst pun ever.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:01:29
From: ratty one
ID: 644771
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

AwesomeO said:


Sprinkling salt around your lettuce is not a good idea for your garden but I wonder if you could get the same results from a wall of nitrates?

nitrates can burn plants too in excess which is why chook poo should be diluted and aged ideally

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:02:59
From: ratty one
ID: 644773
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

if th salt is in the gutter surround the bed perhaps less impact or the alcohol option …. introduce mor blue tongue lizards they looooooove snails and slugs

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:03:27
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644774
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


AwesomeO said:

Sprinkling salt around your lettuce is not a good idea for your garden but I wonder if you could get the same results from a wall of nitrates?

nitrates can burn plants too in excess which is why chook poo should be diluted and aged ideally

I was thinking away from the lettuce but forming a barrier around it. End of season, water it in.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:05:16
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644777
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


if th salt is in the gutter surround the bed perhaps less impact or the alcohol option …. introduce mor blue tongue lizards they looooooove snails and slugs

Possibly, split a hose in half, lay around the lettuce. Fill with Rock salt. Avoid water.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:08:52
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644778
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Beer traps!

Partially bury some sort of container (butter/marg container, yoghurt tub, part of a milk carton) and put an inch or so of beer in it.

The snails will climb in, get drunk, and not be able to find their way out.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:09:52
From: ratty one
ID: 644779
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

AwesomeO said:


ratty one said:

if th salt is in the gutter surround the bed perhaps less impact or the alcohol option …. introduce mor blue tongue lizards they looooooove snails and slugs

Possibly, split a hose in half, lay around the lettuce. Fill with Rock salt. Avoid water.

yep….I was having a thought about the black plastic used to put a waterproof membrane through a concrete running around the perimeter ….normal table salt might be cheaper

“damp cause (sp)”

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:09:54
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644780
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

There are also carnivorous slugs and snails.

I’m not sure if Bugs For Bugs carry them.

Might be something to look into?

Planting decoy plants might also be an idea…

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:11:24
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644782
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


AwesomeO said:

ratty one said:

if th salt is in the gutter surround the bed perhaps less impact or the alcohol option …. introduce mor blue tongue lizards they looooooove snails and slugs

Possibly, split a hose in half, lay around the lettuce. Fill with Rock salt. Avoid water.

yep….I was having a thought about the black plastic used to put a waterproof membrane through a concrete running around the perimeter ….normal table salt might be cheaper

“damp cause (sp)”

I was thinking rock salt not so likely to blow away or get dislodged by drops of water.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:12:17
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644783
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Salt and nitrates = bad ideas.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:13:01
From: Boris
ID: 644785
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

or swimming pool salt.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:14:32
From: ratty one
ID: 644787
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

fresnel_chick said:


Salt and nitrates = bad ideas.

if placed directly onto the soil bed – agreed

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:17:55
From: ratty one
ID: 644788
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

mind you … if you lived in qld just send in the geckos

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:19:26
From: party_pants
ID: 644790
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:21:31
From: ratty one
ID: 644792
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

party_pants said:


There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

I did pay attention to your suggestion..I thought of the damp causing as an addition. You’re suggestion seems to be akin to Stalag 13 and Hogan’s Heroes!

:)

I am guessing the shell gets snagged on the over hanging threads?

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:22:54
From: party_pants
ID: 644794
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


I am guessing the shell gets snagged on the over hanging threads?

No, just pissed off, and wanders off to try somewhere else.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:24:12
From: ratty one
ID: 644796
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

party_pants said:


ratty one said:

I am guessing the shell gets snagged on the over hanging threads?

No, just pissed off, and wanders off to try somewhere else.

I see.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:24:48
From: ms spock
ID: 644798
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


mind you … if you lived in qld just send in the geckos

or their friends, the clowns.

I am in Moss Vale on borg snail duty!

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:25:26
From: tauto
ID: 644799
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

party_pants said:


There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

Yeah, but in the end you have to think is it worth the effort oppossed to buying it

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:25:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 644801
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Off to Bunnings, get a flame thrower.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:27:03
From: party_pants
ID: 644803
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

tauto said:


party_pants said:

There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

Yeah, but in the end you have to think is it worth the effort oppossed to buying it

I’m just offering up ideas. I’d go the snail pellets myself.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:28:43
From: ratty one
ID: 644804
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

tauto said:


party_pants said:

There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

Yeah, but in the end you have to think is it worth the effort oppossed to buying it

he wants to invest in blowing up a whale

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:29:04
From: AwesomeO
ID: 644806
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

I have a bad earwig problem, when I was growing some ummm seedlings, I had them in individual pots and they in turn were in a tray full of water. Kept the soil moist and the earwigs and greebles out.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:30:01
From: wookiemeister
ID: 644808
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ms spock said:


My experience of snails in a vegie patch and garden I am looking after feels like I am engaging the borg, except they don’t assimilate me and are snails.

Those damn snails keep munching away and have recently eaten three lettuces.

How can I wage a war on these snails, not using anything toxic?

I am happy to blow them up but as I have no explosives expertise I will leave that to the experts, (and people on this forum) hehehe.

Any suggestions.

Nuking from outer space is already on the list. But I have no satellite or nukes to call my own, and it might be overkill.


you can make a touch sensitive explosive from iodine I believe

you lay some of this down

snail comes along

mini boom

or

you could create an arduino controlled minefield that senses slug/ snail movement and sets off a small device near it

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:31:08
From: ms spock
ID: 644810
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Spiny Norman said:


Off to Bunnings, get a flame thrower.

That is your answer to everything!

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:31:09
From: party_pants
ID: 644811
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


tauto said:

party_pants said:

There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

Yeah, but in the end you have to think is it worth the effort oppossed to buying it

he wants to invest in blowing up a whale

Only if it was somebody else’s money.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:31:20
From: ratty one
ID: 644812
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

wookiemeister said:


ms spock said:

My experience of snails in a vegie patch and garden I am looking after feels like I am engaging the borg, except they don’t assimilate me and are snails.

Those damn snails keep munching away and have recently eaten three lettuces.

How can I wage a war on these snails, not using anything toxic?

I am happy to blow them up but as I have no explosives expertise I will leave that to the experts, (and people on this forum) hehehe.

Any suggestions.

Nuking from outer space is already on the list. But I have no satellite or nukes to call my own, and it might be overkill.


you can make a touch sensitive explosive from iodine I believe

you lay some of this down

snail comes along

mini boom

or

you could create an arduino controlled minefield that senses slug/ snail movement and sets off a small device near it

oh my word

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:31:57
From: ratty one
ID: 644814
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ms spock said:


Spiny Norman said:

Off to Bunnings, get a flame thrower.

That is your answer to everything!

he could onto something there though

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:34:57
From: ms spock
ID: 644816
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


ms spock said:

Spiny Norman said:

Off to Bunnings, get a flame thrower.

That is your answer to everything!

he could onto something there though

***makes large eyes at ratty one***

Don’t encourage him!

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:35:17
From: Speedy
ID: 644817
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

You could make a little electric fence around the lettuces :)

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:36:25
From: ms spock
ID: 644819
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Speedy said:


You could make a little electric fence around the lettuces :)

I think this one is a winner!

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:37:42
From: tauto
ID: 644821
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


tauto said:

party_pants said:

There’s got to be some kind of physical barrier that you could set up. Those plastic garden edge thingies as a fence, topped with a few strands of nylon fishing wire, like top a cyclone fence with barbed wire . Snails could climb up but not get through or over the nylon strands. Something like that.

Yeah, but in the end you have to think is it worth the effort oppossed to buying it

he wants to invest in blowing up a whale

—-

Settle petal, I postulated.an alternative.:)

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:39:37
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 644823
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Speedy said:


You could make a little electric fence around the lettuces :)

a snail would likely be sensitive to low wattages so that probably is a fair idea……..

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:39:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 644824
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

tauto said:


ratty one said:

tauto said:

Yeah, but in the end you have to think is it worth the effort oppossed to buying it

he wants to invest in blowing up a whale

—-

Settle petal, I postulated.an alternative.:)

Do I have to read the whole thread?

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:40:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 644826
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Postpocelipse said:


Speedy said:

You could make a little electric fence around the lettuces :)

a snail would likely be sensitive to low wattages so that probably is a fair idea……..

Simply use copper wire.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:42:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 644828
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

AwesomeO said:


Fuckem, snailbait. Though if you want to go hippy I have read you can sink saucers of beer into the garden and they die pissed and happy.

The latter is better for slugs than snails as the snails have a sail they can be as pissed as farts and still float to the edge and climb out.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:42:58
From: ratty one
ID: 644831
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Postpocelipse said:


Speedy said:

You could make a little electric fence around the lettuces :)

a snail would likely be sensitive to low wattages so that probably is a fair idea……..

some people eat them you could zap and eat all in one go

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:43:28
From: ms spock
ID: 644832
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

Fuckem, snailbait. Though if you want to go hippy I have read you can sink saucers of beer into the garden and they die pissed and happy.

The latter is better for slugs than snails as the snails have a sail they can be as pissed as farts and still float to the edge and climb out.

I told you they were borg like snails.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:44:32
From: Cymek
ID: 644834
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

They love cat food, they are always eating leftovers in our cats bowls
You could put a couple of plates in the vegetable garden go out and scoop them out a few hours later
Or give the garden a good water and collect them when they come out

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:46:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 644836
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

I’m lucky ‘cos there are few snails in the Tasmanian midlands. In the 7 years I’ve been living here I’ve only found one live snail and a few empty shells.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:47:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 644837
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

ratty one said:


some people eat them you could zap and eat all in one go

You shouldn’t eat wild snails. They carry some nasty parasites that can infect humans.

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:47:30
From: ms spock
ID: 644838
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Bubblecar said:


I’m lucky ‘cos there are few snails in the Tasmanian midlands. In the 7 years I’ve been living here I’ve only found one live snail and a few empty shells.

EGADS! We are coming right over! Be there tomorrow!

LOL

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:47:34
From: ms spock
ID: 644839
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Bubblecar said:


I’m lucky ‘cos there are few snails in the Tasmanian midlands. In the 7 years I’ve been living here I’ve only found one live snail and a few empty shells.

EGADS! We are coming right over! Be there tomorrow!

LOL

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:48:02
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 644841
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

bit left of centre but…..

find one crazy bearded snail….
attach a stone tablet with ten commandments carved in them….
send him out to free his people

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:49:09
From: ratty one
ID: 644845
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Bubblecar said:


ratty one said:

some people eat them you could zap and eat all in one go

You shouldn’t eat wild snails. They carry some nasty parasites that can infect humans.

yeah but they’re natural………..surely that makes them safe!!!!!

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Date: 12/12/2014 22:51:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 644847
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Anyway; they don’t like climbing over copper.

or moving over certain crushed minerals. Some images I prepared earlier.

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Date: 12/12/2014 23:09:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 644855
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Speedy said:


You could make a little electric fence around the lettuces :)

or you could wage an air campaign

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:18:38
From: transition
ID: 644882
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Snails here giving me the shits some, a lot of them come from me transplanting cactus etc over few years now from relatives place other side of town, and they tend to move west-east here anyway so coming this way, so been putting out small amounts of regular bait, but only when it sort of gets lost down in the vegetation, like the ground creeping succulents I have.

My dogs on a lead all the time, so don’t have to worry much about him, probably more the sheep(singular) and the friend of a neighbour that has horses next door whose dog wanders over here I worry about, and other stray dogs come down here too.

Bumped into a little not-so-young lady at post office other day, mentioned it to her, she says she sprinkles salt around and on them sorts ‘em out, which sounds alright I suppose if it’s not going to corrode anything or kill plants or sterilize the soil.

I think i’m going to have to put out more bait, just continue to be very careful where I put it is all. On nearly three acres here, but mostly the problem is up the back where sheds are and most of the greenery and stuff gets watered most.

Summer will slow them down some, when gets scorching hot and dry.

I don’t like them on vegetables much, the thought they’ve been on them puts me off eating my greens.

Anyway I haven’t declared war yet, but will be soon if things keep looking like they are.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:21:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 644885
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

transition said:


Snails here giving me the shits some, a lot of them come from me transplanting cactus etc over few years now from relatives place other side of town, and they tend to move west-east here anyway so coming this way, so been putting out small amounts of regular bait, but only when it sort of gets lost down in the vegetation, like the ground creeping succulents I have.

My dogs on a lead all the time, so don’t have to worry much about him, probably more the sheep(singular) and the friend of a neighbour that has horses next door whose dog wanders over here I worry about, and other stray dogs come down here too.

Bumped into a little not-so-young lady at post office other day, mentioned it to her, she says she sprinkles salt around and on them sorts ‘em out, which sounds alright I suppose if it’s not going to corrode anything or kill plants or sterilize the soil.

I think i’m going to have to put out more bait, just continue to be very careful where I put it is all. On nearly three acres here, but mostly the problem is up the back where sheds are and most of the greenery and stuff gets watered most.

Summer will slow them down some, when gets scorching hot and dry.

I don’t like them on vegetables much, the thought they’ve been on them puts me off eating my greens.

Anyway I haven’t declared war yet, but will be soon if things keep looking like they are.

Can always reduce snails by removing them from habitat where they rest between rains or waterings. Otherwise simply remove the habitat and reduce the waterings.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:22:21
From: transition
ID: 644886
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

the little white snails we have mostly, sometimes the larger brown ones but they aren’t really any serious problem.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:24:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 644887
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

transition said:


the little white snails we have mostly, sometimes the larger brown ones but they aren’t really any serious problem.

The big brown ones won’t be a big problem if your climate is naturally dry.
The small white ones are a huge and serious problem almost everywhere in arid SE Australia or in sub-mediterranean climes.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:28:37
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644888
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:29:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 644889
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

I moved to an arid block of land that appeared to have no snails at first but upon planting and watering things I noticed thousands of tiny conical snails. Then one day I brought home a load of plane tree leaves thinking to make compost with them. I stopped for a cuppa whilst unloading and spotted a big brown snail(Escargot) climbing up the back window of the ute and cursed vehemently. Within no time at all, as I was aware would happen, I was able to collect 300 of these big brown slimers per sq m

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:30:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 644890
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

fresnel_chick said:


Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

Duck poop squishes between naked toes something seriously trippy.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:31:02
From: tauto
ID: 644891
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

transition said:


Snails here giving me the shits some, a lot of them come from me transplanting cactus etc over few years now from relatives place other side of town, and they tend to move west-east here anyway so coming this way, so been putting out small amounts of regular bait, but only when it sort of gets lost down in the vegetation, like the ground creeping succulents I have.

My dogs on a lead all the time, so don’t have to worry much about him, probably more the sheep(singular) and the friend of a neighbour that has horses next door whose dog wanders over here I worry about, and other stray dogs come down here too.

Bumped into a little not-so-young lady at post office other day, mentioned it to her, she says she sprinkles salt around and on them sorts ‘em out, which sounds alright I suppose if it’s not going to corrode anything or kill plants or sterilize the soil.

I think i’m going to have to put out more bait, just continue to be very careful where I put it is all. On nearly three acres here, but mostly the problem is up the back where sheds are and most of the greenery and stuff gets watered most.

Summer will slow them down some, when gets scorching hot and dry.

I don’t like them on vegetables much, the thought they’ve been on them puts me off eating my greens.

Anyway I haven’t declared war yet, but will be soon if things keep looking like they are.

I just cant trust the greens from the garden since I seen the dog wee on them.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:32:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 644892
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

roughbarked said:


I moved to an arid block of land that appeared to have no snails at first but upon planting and watering things I noticed thousands of tiny conical snails. Then one day I brought home a load of plane tree leaves thinking to make compost with them. I stopped for a cuppa whilst unloading and spotted a big brown snail(Escargot) climbing up the back window of the ute and cursed vehemently. Within no time at all, as I was aware would happen, I was able to collect 300 of these big brown slimers per sq m

OK so after twenty years of drought I managed to lose the big brown snails but the little conical snails all grew into your small white snails.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:33:00
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644893
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

I think I counted 9 or so species of snail at our last house. Half of which were carnivorous.

Atlas of Living Australia and Bowerbird are both excellent resources for IDing which snails you have in your area.

It’s just a matter of modifying the balance between the vegetarian and carnivorous ones…

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:33:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 644894
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

tauto said:


transition said:

Snails here giving me the shits some, a lot of them come from me transplanting cactus etc over few years now from relatives place other side of town, and they tend to move west-east here anyway so coming this way, so been putting out small amounts of regular bait, but only when it sort of gets lost down in the vegetation, like the ground creeping succulents I have.

My dogs on a lead all the time, so don’t have to worry much about him, probably more the sheep(singular) and the friend of a neighbour that has horses next door whose dog wanders over here I worry about, and other stray dogs come down here too.

Bumped into a little not-so-young lady at post office other day, mentioned it to her, she says she sprinkles salt around and on them sorts ‘em out, which sounds alright I suppose if it’s not going to corrode anything or kill plants or sterilize the soil.

I think i’m going to have to put out more bait, just continue to be very careful where I put it is all. On nearly three acres here, but mostly the problem is up the back where sheds are and most of the greenery and stuff gets watered most.

Summer will slow them down some, when gets scorching hot and dry.

I don’t like them on vegetables much, the thought they’ve been on them puts me off eating my greens.

Anyway I haven’t declared war yet, but will be soon if things keep looking like they are.

I just cant trust the greens from the garden since I seen the dog wee on them.

No serious greens eater keeps a dog.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:34:03
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644895
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

roughbarked said:


fresnel_chick said:

Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

Duck poop squishes between naked toes something seriously trippy.

I forgot that part of duck ownership…

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:34:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 644896
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

fresnel_chick said:


I think I counted 9 or so species of snail at our last house. Half of which were carnivorous.

Atlas of Living Australia and Bowerbird are both excellent resources for IDing which snails you have in your area.

It’s just a matter of modifying the balance between the vegetarian and carnivorous ones…

In most instances where I’ve lived, the natives are all dead.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:34:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 644897
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

fresnel_chick said:


Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

And slugs. I remember a heap of ancient bricks in a corner of the orchard at the Mole Creek place that always had slugs under each brick. Whenever I headed in that direction the ducks would always follow, demanding that I turn over each brick so they could gobble up the slugs.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:36:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 644898
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

fresnel_chick said:


roughbarked said:

fresnel_chick said:

Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

Duck poop squishes between naked toes something seriously trippy.

I forgot that part of duck ownership…


Must have been a while then.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:37:18
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644899
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

roughbarked said:


fresnel_chick said:

I think I counted 9 or so species of snail at our last house. Half of which were carnivorous.

Atlas of Living Australia and Bowerbird are both excellent resources for IDing which snails you have in your area.

It’s just a matter of modifying the balance between the vegetarian and carnivorous ones…

In most instances where I’ve lived, the natives are all dead.

I’m pretty sure we had at least three species of native snail at the old place. One of them only grew to be as big as the nail on my pinky finger. :D

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:37:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 644900
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Bubblecar said:


fresnel_chick said:

Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

And slugs. I remember a heap of ancient bricks in a corner of the orchard at the Mole Creek place that always had slugs under each brick. Whenever I headed in that direction the ducks would always follow, demanding that I turn over each brick so they could gobble up the slugs.

Get a bogeye, er: shingleback or bluetongue, er banded skink?

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:38:42
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644901
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Bubblecar said:


fresnel_chick said:

Oooh… I forgot: Ducks and chookies LOVE eating snails.
Perhaps you can buy Daisy a few of those. LOL!

And slugs. I remember a heap of ancient bricks in a corner of the orchard at the Mole Creek place that always had slugs under each brick. Whenever I headed in that direction the ducks would always follow, demanding that I turn over each brick so they could gobble up the slugs.

Yes! And slaters… and pretty much any other insect/invertebrate one finds in a veggie garden.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:39:29
From: fresnel_chick
ID: 644903
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

roughbarked said:


fresnel_chick said:

roughbarked said:

Duck poop squishes between naked toes something seriously trippy.

I forgot that part of duck ownership…


Must have been a while then.

Yarp. T’was about 14 years ago.

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Date: 13/12/2014 00:41:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 644905
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

fresnel_chick said:


roughbarked said:

fresnel_chick said:

I forgot that part of duck ownership…


Must have been a while then.

Yarp. T’was about 14 years ago.

Well it is forty years since that memory was indelibly imprinted. I’ve never trod in duckshit since.

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Date: 13/12/2014 09:14:58
From: buffy
ID: 644951
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Just use the blue pellets sparingly. I only put them out very sparingly (about 2 to 3 pellets around each lettuce) because that way the dogs can’t get enough together to knock them about. And it kills the snails. I don’t like the green pellets, they go mouldy.

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Date: 13/12/2014 10:01:06
From: Ogmog
ID: 644968
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

roughbarked said:


fresnel_chick said:

roughbarked said:

Must have been a while then.

Yarp. T’was about 14 years ago.

Well it is forty years since that memory was indelibly imprinted. I’ve never trod in duckshit since.


All of your suggestions are sound,
…but here’s all the poop in one go:

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7427.html

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Date: 13/12/2014 13:22:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 645020
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

This been posted yet?

Snails in your garden? Warm up your throwing arm, scientists suggest

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-snail-throwing-homing-instinct-20140516-story.html
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Date: 13/12/2014 18:19:54
From: Dropbear
ID: 645228
Subject: re: Borg Like Snails

Boris said:


they climb

then absnail down the other side.

Chuckle

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