Date: 13/12/2014 01:23:24
From: dv
ID: 644926
Subject: will o' the wisp

Are there any records of will o’ the wisp occurring outside of Europe? Are there any photographs or video of the phenomenon?

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Date: 13/12/2014 02:24:23
From: Ogmog
ID: 644933
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

dv said:


Are there any records of will o’ the wisp occurring outside of Europe? Are there any photographs or video of the phenomenon?

Yes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o%27-the-wisp

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Date: 13/12/2014 11:31:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 644980
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Don’t appear to be any photos of them online, just paintings and Photoshopped stuff etc.

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Date: 13/12/2014 11:47:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 644982
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

These pitchers from Thailand are supposedly authentic snaps of the Naga lights, will o’ the wisp type lights associated with the Mekong:

http://www.wondermondo.com/Countries/As/Thailand/NongKhai/NagaFireballs.htm

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:12:05
From: dv
ID: 644999
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Ogmog said:


dv said:

Are there any records of will o’ the wisp occurring outside of Europe? Are there any photographs or video of the phenomenon?

Yes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o%27-the-wisp

Nothing about that WP article suggests the answer is Yes.

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:16:21
From: dv
ID: 645001
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

The appearance and behaviour of the Naga balls is pretty different from WOTW, but thank you.

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:17:35
From: kii
ID: 645002
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Maybe the people who have seen them are just experiencing detached retinas or something?

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:28:43
From: dv
ID: 645008
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

I wish I was a billionaire so I could just hire people to go out sit by a lake for a year getting high quality video of Naga balls or will o’ the wisp.

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:35:56
From: buffy
ID: 645010
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

The min min lights aren’t the same, but Jack’s explanation of them is interesting. And Jack is interesting anyway.

http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/MinMinCEO.pdf

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:45:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 645016
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Apparently there are fewer will ‘o wisp sightings these days, due to marsh clearance etc. I suppose it’s possible that they never actually existed.

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Date: 13/12/2014 12:45:37
From: dv
ID: 645017
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

There is both good news and bad news for those who wish to attend the Phayanak festival to witness the fireballs. The good news is you are absolutely guaranteed to actually see them with your own eyes. The bad news is that what you’ll see are simple fireworks, shot skyward as a tourist attraction. But even though today’s fireballs are a harmless festival show, there is no basis for establishing that this is the source of all such fireballs throughout history. Anecdotes persist that the fireballs are still visible at other times of the year and at other locations along the river, and many people say that reports of sightings date back centuries. However this belief that the Naga Fireballs are ancient seems to be merely a locally held understanding; it does not appear to be reliably documented prior to the middle of the 20th century.

http://skeptoid.com/mobile/4183

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Date: 13/12/2014 13:22:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 645021
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

buffy said:

The min min lights aren’t the same, but Jack’s explanation of them is interesting. And Jack is interesting anyway.

http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/MinMinCEO.pdf

Other than being in Australia rather than Europe, in what way are they different?

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Date: 13/12/2014 14:00:03
From: dv
ID: 645032
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

The min min lights aren’t the same, but Jack’s explanation of them is interesting. And Jack is interesting anyway.

http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/MinMinCEO.pdf

Other than being in Australia rather than Europe, in what way are they different?

They are white rather than blue, move rapidly rather than float ethereally, don’t retreat when approached.

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Date: 13/12/2014 14:00:38
From: dv
ID: 645033
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

The min min lights aren’t the same, but Jack’s explanation of them is interesting. And Jack is interesting anyway.

http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/MinMinCEO.pdf

Other than being in Australia rather than Europe, in what way are they different?

They are white rather than blue, move rapidly rather than float ethereally, don’t retreat when approached.

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:17:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 645149
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

The min min lights aren’t the same, but Jack’s explanation of them is interesting. And Jack is interesting anyway.

http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/MinMinCEO.pdf

Other than being in Australia rather than Europe, in what way are they different?

They are white rather than blue, move rapidly rather than float ethereally, don’t retreat when approached.

Where are the colours of these lights defined, and who says min min lights move rapidly and don’t recede?

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:38:39
From: dv
ID: 645158
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Other than being in Australia rather than Europe, in what way are they different?

They are white rather than blue, move rapidly rather than float ethereally, don’t retreat when approached.

Where are the colours of these lights defined, and who says min min lights move rapidly and don’t recede?

Sources.

Another difference is that WOTW occurs over marshes, whereas there are few marshes in Boulia…

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:41:29
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 645161
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

DV would I be wrong in assuming that you believe there is probably a simple scientific explanation for this phenomena?

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:50:53
From: dv
ID: 645179
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Witty Rejoinder said:


DV would I be wrong in assuming that you believe there is probably a simple scientific explanation for this phenomena?

Well either there is a simple scientific explanation (combustion of phosphine is a popular one) OR it’s not a real thing or has been significantly misdescribed and that hence it is largely a cultural rather than physical phenomenon. The fact that (a) reports of the phenomenon have dried up and (b) there are not photographs or video and © it is not observed outside Europe makes me lean towards the latter.

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:54:44
From: Tamb
ID: 645182
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

DV would I be wrong in assuming that you believe there is probably a simple scientific explanation for this phenomena?

Well either there is a simple scientific explanation (combustion of phosphine is a popular one) OR it’s not a real thing or has been significantly misdescribed and that hence it is largely a cultural rather than physical phenomenon. The fact that (a) reports of the phenomenon have dried up and (b) there are not photographs or video and © it is not observed outside Europe makes me lean towards the latter.


No Yowie sightings in Europe either.

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:56:05
From: Dropbear
ID: 645183
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

There were reports of a Dropbear in Rome, in August

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Date: 13/12/2014 16:58:35
From: Tamb
ID: 645184
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Dropbear said:


There were reports of a Dropbear in Rome, in August

An excellent site for the critters:
http://australianmuseum.net.au/Drop-Bear

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:06:29
From: buffy
ID: 645185
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Only the abstract is available free, but will the Royal Society do for a reference?

http://classic.rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/372/2030/20140206.abstract

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:06:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 645186
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Haven’t seen DA today.
She might have her legs in stirrups and yelling obscenities right now.

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:25:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 645194
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

dv said:

Well either there is a simple scientific explanation (combustion of phosphine is a popular one) OR it’s not a real thing or has been significantly misdescribed and that hence it is largely a cultural rather than physical phenomenon. The fact that (a) reports of the phenomenon have dried up and (b) there are not photographs or video and © it is not observed outside Europe makes me lean towards the latter.

Or it’s a combination of both, and also due to more than one phenomenon.

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:39:16
From: sibeen
ID: 645198
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

FUCK OFF

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:40:00
From: jjjust moi
ID: 645199
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

sibeen said:


FUCK OFF

hehe

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:40:18
From: sibeen
ID: 645201
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

OOPS

:)

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Date: 13/12/2014 17:57:19
From: dv
ID: 645212
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Harsh

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Date: 13/12/2014 18:02:24
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 645214
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

dv said:

Well either there is a simple scientific explanation (combustion of phosphine is a popular one) OR it’s not a real thing or has been significantly misdescribed and that hence it is largely a cultural rather than physical phenomenon. The fact that (a) reports of the phenomenon have dried up and (b) there are not photographs or video and © it is not observed outside Europe makes me lean towards the latter.

Makes sense.

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Date: 14/12/2014 08:46:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 645388
Subject: re: will o' the wisp

Bubblecar said:


Apparently there are fewer will ‘o wisp sightings these days, due to marsh clearance etc. I suppose it’s possible that they never actually existed.

When he was a young lad, my dad regularly saw marsh gas. He didn’t have a camera back then though, and the world was still black and white anyway.

Although I live near a marsh, I’m guessing the light pollution would drown out any gas illumination. Not so true of the drunken bogans who hang out there after the pubs close on Saturday nights; I’m sure their gas illuminations are just as awe-inspiring.

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