Date: 2/01/2015 11:05:07
From: Cymek
ID: 654654
Subject: Cancer caused by bad luck

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/cancer-often-caused-by-bad-luck-not-genes-say-johns-hopkins-researchers/story-fneuzlbd-1227172343837

CANCER is often caused by the “bad luck” of random mutations that arise when cells divide, not family history or environmental causes, US researchers say.
The study in the January 2 edition of the journal Science was led by researchers at Johns Hopkins University and based on a statistical model that includes many types of cancer in a range of human tissues.

However it did not include breast cancer, which is the most common cancer in women, or prostate cancer, which is the second most common cancer in men after skin cancer.

In the adult cancers they did measure, about two-thirds could be explained by random mutation in genes that encourage tumours to grow, while the remaining one third was due to environmental factors and inherited genes.

“This study shows that you can add to your risk of getting cancers by smoking or other poor lifestyle factors,” said study author Bert Vogelstein, a professor of oncology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

“However, many forms of cancer are due largely to the bad luck of acquiring a mutation in a cancer driver gene regardless of lifestyle and heredity factors.”

He added that people who live a long time without getting cancer, despite being long-time smokers or being exposed heavily to the sun, do not have “good genes.” “The truth is that most of them simply had good luck,” he added.

STEM CELLS DIVIDE

The team sought to look at cancer in a new light, by searching the scientific literature for information on how many times stem cells divided over the course of an average person’s lifespan.

This process of self-renewal occurs naturally in the body and helps repopulate cells that die off in a specific organ.

Long-time smokers who don’t get cancer do not have “good genes”, contrary to belief. Source: Getty Images

Researchers have long understood that cancer can arise when stem cells make random mistakes, known as mutations.

But the study represents the first attempt at comparing how many cancers arise from this process, compared to family history or environmental factors.

Some 22 cancer types arising in 31 tissues studied could be traced back to random mutations, the study found.

The other nine “had incidences higher than predicted by ‘bad luck’ and were presumably due to a combination of bad luck plus environmental or inherited factors,” the university said.

These nine types included lung cancer and skin cancer — which are influenced by exposure to smoke and sunshine — as well as some cancers known to be hereditary.

The findings mean that an even greater emphasis should be placed on early detection of cancer and research that could detect these harmful random acts before they lead to widespread cancer.

“Changing our lifestyle and habits will be a huge help in preventing certain cancers, but this may not be as effective for a variety of others,” said biomathematician Cristian Tomasetti, an assistant professor of oncology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health.

“We should focus more resources on finding ways to detect such cancers at early, curable stages.” Breast and prostate cancers were not included in the study because the literature did not show reliable stem cell division rates in those areas of the body, the authors said.

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Date: 2/01/2015 11:07:41
From: Arts
ID: 654657
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

wait, you mean big pharma companies aren’t just holding all the cures back to make more money out of human suffering?

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:18:03
From: Neophyte
ID: 654734
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

A friend of mine (well, I’ve been off his Xmas card list for a few years now) swears solemnly that cancer is caused by negative thinking.

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:20:02
From: kii
ID: 654735
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Neophyte said:


A friend of mine (well, I’ve been off his Xmas card list for a few years now) swears solemnly that cancer is caused by negative thinking.

I’ve met those people. Gawd they do my head in.

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:23:59
From: Neophyte
ID: 654736
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

He also claimed Brokeback Mountain won the Oscar because of the gay cabal that control Hollywood…

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:25:16
From: Divine Angel
ID: 654737
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

I thought the Illuminati controlled Hollywood?

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:28:56
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 654738
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Neophyte said:


A friend of mine (well, I’ve been off his Xmas card list for a few years now) swears solemnly that cancer is caused by negative thinking.

Backpfeifengesicht is caused by people who think like that…

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:30:51
From: Neophyte
ID: 654740
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Divine Angel said:


I thought the Illuminati controlled Hollywood?

Well, just a few years earlier, when that Australian animated short won for Best Animated Short, he claimed it was because of all the Jews that controlled Hollywood.

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:32:56
From: kii
ID: 654742
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

One woman I worked with firmly believed that Obama was a sleeper terrorist, during the first election.

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Date: 2/01/2015 14:33:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 654743
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Neophyte said:


Divine Angel said:

I thought the Illuminati controlled Hollywood?

Well, just a few years earlier, when that Australian animated short won for Best Animated Short, he claimed it was because of all the Jews that controlled Hollywood.

Ohhhh I remember that. He’s gay IIRC.

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Date: 2/01/2015 22:12:22
From: tauto
ID: 655018
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Science says bad luck. pfft

Has the prof looked at how many patients showed signs of a particular virus in the year before?

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Date: 2/01/2015 22:18:45
From: furious
ID: 655022
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Top doctor says cancer is the ‘best death’

“Cancer is the best way to die and there should be less money spent on its cure, a leading doctor says.”

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Date: 3/01/2015 10:12:18
From: Arts
ID: 655365
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

A doctor today was sprouting that we shouldn’t try to cure cancer, we should let people die from it, since it allows people time to reflect and mend bridges and visit favourite places and say proper goodbyes to loved ones..

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cancer-is-best-death-so-dont-try-to-cure-it-says-doctor-9952361.html

Dying of cancer is the “best death” and we should “stop wasting billions trying to cure” it, a leading doctor has said.

Dr Richard Smith, a former editor of the British Medical Journal, said that cancer allowed people to say goodbye and prepare for death and was therefore preferable to sudden death, death from organ failure or “the long, slow death from dementia”.

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except that it kills kids, and young people and people who have little children to raise and stuff…. My grandfather in law got throat cancer in his 80’s. He refused treatment and did all those things the doctor said.. but he was over 80 and had a lovely life.. it’s ok to say let the cancer get me in this case.. but what about the three yr old.. who hasn’t had a life yet?

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Date: 3/01/2015 10:16:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 655366
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Cancer also often involves much suffering and incapacity before the patient dies. I’d far prefer a quick clean death (preferably at an advanced age).

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Date: 3/01/2015 10:19:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 655370
Subject: re: Cancer caused by bad luck

Bubblecar said:


Cancer also often involves much suffering and incapacity before the patient dies. I’d far prefer a quick clean death (preferably at an advanced age).

And loads of indignity.

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