The nature of gravitation and spatial expansion leave lingering questions which might be neatly resolved with the inclusion of an anti-universe.

When we artificially create antimatter it comes into existence embedded within a field of positive time dilation allowing very rapid annihilation. At BB there is a concievable sequence of consequences intervening with annihilation. Firstly the articulation of two infinite fields represents a distinguishment of momentum on the global scale. Providing an antimatter universe answers the question of where the universe is going by suggesting that the instantaneous dilation of two universal time fields has forced a separation between the two so violent that annihilation has simply been delayed for a considerable brevity. In this scenario heat death of the universe allows an internal relativity within each universe so uniform the two come crashing back together to anhilate so violently the question of where the energy for a BB might come from seems rhetorical.

It appears to be a question of SR. At BB, for GR to be established SR has to first be definitive. The moment matter and antimatter come into existence requires that the two fields are substantially seperated by necessity. The relativity between particles within each field becomes a trade off with the relativity between the two distinguished fields. It may be that what is missing from a complete standard theory is not a balance of forces but a balance of relativities.

Subsequently the purpose of this thread would be to properly define a relativity between these two oppositional fields that is complimentary and definitive of SR and GR. Under this scenario c becomes a measure of the suspension between the two fields.

Working Tip: It may be easier to calculate this relativity from heat death rather than BB.

Postpocelipse said:

Working Tip: It may be easier to calculate this relativity from heat death back to BB.

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Within a duoverse BH’s may be an attribute that provide a stable BB recycling mechanism suggesting this scenario may be connected to a workable holographic universe system…..

Postpocelipse said:

Within a duoverse BH’s may be an attribute that provide a stable BB recycling mechanism suggesting this scenario may be connected to a workable holographic universe system…..

The seperation between the two fields may be calculable as an EH…..

Let’s see if I can fix this.

“When we artificially create antimatter it comes into existence embedded within a field of (matter) allowing very rapid annihilation. At BB there is a concievable sequence of consequences intervening with annihilation. Firstly the articulation of two infinite fields (in colliding higher-dimensional spaces) represents a distinguishment (sorry, no such word) of momentum on the global scale. Providing an antimatter universe answers the question of where the universe is going by suggesting that the instantaneous dilation of two universal time fields (two time fields is easily proved to be mathematically impossible because then time becomes space-like, which it isn’t. Three time fields is not mathematically impossible but seems unlikely) …

“has forced a separation between the two so violent that annihilation has simply been delayed for a considerable brevity.”

(Actually, that’s not such a silly idea. The relationship between cause and effect cannot exceed the speed of light, so outside the light cone of cosmic inflation the universe may switch over from matter dominated to antimatter dominated. Restricting the number of universes to tho, though, is both unjustified and unnecessary.)

“In this scenario heat death of the universe allows an internal relativity within each universe so uniform the two come crashing back together”

Again neither necessary nor in agreement with observations. Even if our present universe is non-flat with spherical curvature it can still expand forever. The observed presence of dark energy argues that the expansion rate will even accelerate.

“to annihilate so violently the question of where the energy for a BB might come from seems rhetorical.”

I’ll agree with that. The collisions in a collapsing universe would occur so violently that even if it doesn’t spell the end of the universe, the end of the universe being the most likely scenario, it will at least mean the end of matter as we know it.

mollwollfumble said:

“In this scenario heat death of the universe allows an internal relativity within each universe so uniform the two come crashing back together”

Again neither necessary nor in agreement with observations. Even if our present universe is non-flat with spherical curvature it can still expand forever. The observed presence of dark energy argues that the expansion rate will even accelerate.

I believe you may have missed the point here.The fact that the expansion rate might accelerate is likely to provide greater coherency to this scenario. Expansion becomes an expression of the equilibrium between relativities.

mollwollfumble said:

Restricting the number of universes to tho, though, is both unjustified and unnecessary.)

Why? Isn’t there a law that complexity must be mechanically necessary?

mollwollfumble said:

Let’s see if I can fix this.
(two time fields is easily proved to be mathematically impossible because then time becomes space-like, which it isn’t. Three time fields is not mathematically impossible but seems unlikely) …

I do not believe there would be two time fields. Possibly two space fields that are travelling toward each other from different directions in time. Make more sense Moll?

mollwollfumble said:

“has forced a separation between the two so violent that annihilation has simply been delayed for a considerable brevity.”

(Actually, that’s not such a silly idea. The relationship between cause and effect cannot exceed the speed of light, so outside the light cone of cosmic inflation the universe may switch over from matter dominated to antimatter dominated. Restricting the number of universes to tho, though, is both unjustified and unnecessary.)

This is actually the pivotal tricky bit I think….. The impression I get is that what defines the separation of spaces is the internal relativity disparity of each field. The contraction of a particles time dilation due to gravetic acceleration effectively represents a widening of the boundary seperating the two space fields……..

Well you’ve teased out the bit’si was finding difficult to define Moll. That provides some definition that can be properly evaluated to the model thank you very much.

Postpocelipse said:

mollwollfumble said:

“has forced a separation between the two so violent that annihilation has simply been delayed for a considerable brevity.”

(Actually, that’s not such a silly idea. The relationship between cause and effect cannot exceed the speed of light, so outside the light cone of cosmic inflation the universe may switch over from matter dominated to antimatter dominated. Restricting the number of universes to tho, though, is both unjustified and unnecessary.)

This is actually the pivotal tricky bit I think….. The impression I get is that what defines the separation of spaces is the internal relativity disparity of each field. The contraction of a particles time dilation due to gravetic acceleration effectively represents a widening of the boundary seperating the two space fields……..

Something that may be calculable.

a) If a seperation is initiated with a BB the initial seperation state must represent the greatest seperation possible.

b) With equilabration of energy to the physically stable evolving universe a minimum separation state is established.

c) As indicated both space fields remain seperated as long as there is internal relativity disparity within each space field. This seems necessary as part of the maintenance of entanglement between either field.

d) The former point leads to a possible definition of measurements broadly labelled under DE/DM. For instance, if the absorption of kinetic energy within one field broadens seperation between the two fields, could the anomalous orbital speed found in the periphery of galaxies be an equilibration of the pooling of time dilation/kinetic energy toward the centre of that galaxy? If so it may be inevitable that spatial expansion will accelerate at the rate of accumulation of internal kinetic energy until kinetic dilation is no longer being absorbed as the heat dead universe expands beyond the effects of gravitation.

e) photons may not be subject to the seperation mass-bearing particles generate.

Postpocelipse said:

mollwollfumble said:

“has forced a separation between the two so violent that annihilation has simply been delayed for a considerable brevity.”

(Actually, that’s not such a silly idea. The relationship between cause and effect cannot exceed the speed of light, so outside the light cone of cosmic inflation the universe may switch over from matter dominated to antimatter dominated. Restricting the number of universes to tho, though, is both unjustified and unnecessary.)

This is actually the pivotal tricky bit I think….. The impression I get is that what defines the separation of spaces is the internal relativity disparity of each field. The contraction of a particles time dilation due to gravetic acceleration effectively represents a widening of the boundary seperating the two space fields……..

Are the filaments of our universe interlaced with antimatter filaments that are seperated from our observation by a massive time dilation?

Postpocelipse said:

Are the filaments of our universe interlaced with antimatter filaments that are seperated from our observation by time and the internal pooling of kinetic energy of each field?

…better…….

“Is There a Parallel Universe That’s Moving Backwards in Time?“http://www.iflscience.com/physics/there-parallel-universe-thats-moving-backwards-time

To clarify this model is a revision of this original assumption. What has to be accounted for is the mechanical nature of spacetime. Although the trajectory(internal momentum) of either universe may be aligned in the opposite direction to the other it could not be said that they are travelling in opposites directions in time. Seperation would have been established at BB and equilibrium would inexorably be realigning either universe so that they are effectively travelling back toward each other with only the accumulation of internal kinetic energy acting against this realignment.

I have to mention this model intrigues me as it appears to provide a method to entirely quantify mass and momentum. It has also provided a possible answer to where all the helium went to. ie, the superfluid nature of helium may have allowed it to occupy the gulf between matter/antimatter extremities. Any efforts to further break this scenario down would be greatly appreciated.

>http://www.iflscience.com/physics/there-parallel-universe-thats-moving-backwards-time

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transition said:

>http://www.iflscience.com/physics/there-parallel-universe-thats-moving-backwards-time

computer didn’t like that page, locked up IE twice

no issue for chrome……

>no issue for chrome……

haven’t done the lot of upgrades etc yet, fresh install few days back

what does this mean or allude of….”…it appears to provide a method to entirely quantify mass and momentum”, physics dunce that I am.

transition said:

what does this mean or allude of….”…it appears to provide a method to entirely quantify mass and momentum”, physics dunce that I am.

I was hoping moll would provide some feedback that I could structure some illustration around. The scenario relies on SR factors that build into a definitive picture of the equilibriums we are subject to. As SR becomes complex very quickly I would prefer to be prompted to illustrate these aspects one at a time rather than attempt to summarise them wholemeal.

>I was hoping moll would provide some feedback that I could structure some illustration around. The scenario relies on SR factors that build into a definitive picture of the equilibriums we are subject to. As SR becomes complex very quickly I would prefer to be prompted to illustrate these aspects one at a time rather than attempt to summarise them wholemeal.

right, don’t mind me i’m off to tend more terrerestrial matters.

if you conjur an earthly analogue, post it here as it’s marginally interesting.

transition said:

>I was hoping moll would provide some feedback that I could structure some illustration around. The scenario relies on SR factors that build into a definitive picture of the equilibriums we are subject to. As SR becomes complex very quickly I would prefer to be prompted to illustrate these aspects one at a time rather than attempt to summarise them wholemeal.

right, don’t mind me i’m off to tend more terrerestrial matters.

if you conjur an earthly analogue, post it here as it’s marginally interesting.

will do. enjoy……

Fairly certain properly defining this model will require the systematic evaluation of GR v SR within the scenario. A little daunting as a personal project but at least that isn’t the same thing as establishing a link between quantum physics and SR/GR.

Apart from hot and cold what are other relativity related extremities of equilibrium?

Would anyone here have the capacity to take a 3d map of our galactic filaments and compress this to approximate what might have been present during the photon epoch? Mostly out of interest but there might be a hunch hunt in it.

Postpocelipse said:

Would anyone here have the capacity to take a 3d map of our galactic filaments and compress this to approximate what might have been present during the photon epoch?

What you’re describing we already have in the CMB.

mollwollfumble said:

Postpocelipse said:

Would anyone here have the capacity to take a 3d map of our galactic filaments and compress this to approximate what might have been present during the photon epoch?

What you’re describing we already have in the CMB.

True but I was looking for something with a little less photon noise.

Postpocelipse said:

mollwollfumble said:

Postpocelipse said:

Would anyone here have the capacity to take a 3d map of our galactic filaments and compress this to approximate what might have been present during the photon epoch?

What you’re describing we already have in the CMB.

True but I was looking for something with a little less photon noise.

and 3 dimensional….

In regards the opinion that this model can provide greater subject matter to the relativity fields it would appear that rather than this providing an entirely new relativity field it would appear to indicate that SR requires greater summation. At this point I am inclined to believe that it will not provide further SR laws, the currently compiled being sufficient to describe the mechanisms of the model. What it should provide is greater context to the current laws so that mass and momentum and are more clearly defined.

I could be wrong and there may be further SR laws decipherable from the context of this model but I would be surprised. As the previous content of this thread requires summation in the next post I will describe a concise model that is as simple as I can achieve.

wondering some of them duoverse
SR, BB, GR ‘breviatin’ my universe
nothin’ not making sweet FA sense
will it staying here me little ol’ verse
minus third neuron, read nonsense
ungifted tiny brain blown, it is hurtin’

I’m going to assume this is information that is intended to be understood but not spelled out and not submit any model/s.

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Considering that various measurements of spatial expansion were not available during the period most of the relativity material was developed and that a theory of gravity is still required. As the only immediately obvious product supplies I will provide a model toward that end.

a) assume a matter and an antimatter field has found opposite direction in space to take

b) provide this dynamic with the provision that spatial expansion did not cease at the end of the expansion epoch but was directed into the development of angular momentum with particle proliferation. Assume that since then our observation of expansion has been regulated and limited.

c) assume that between the matter/antimatter fields there is a gulf. If this gulf were without particle presence it would be without any regulation of time. Due to this factor I believe this gulf will have filled with helium that has entered a superfluid state. Only helium can enter this space due to it’s particular balance of aggregation.

In regard a theory of gravity these are the pivotal factors that require extrapolation.