Date: 6/01/2015 03:24:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 656960
Subject: Identity (non-sci)

I know an Australian adult who has no official Australian identity. They don’t have enough self-identifying documents to order a birth certificate, passport, or register for Centrelink.

How can they bootstrap their way up to having an identity?

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Date: 6/01/2015 06:23:07
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 656961
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)

As far as I know centrelink can assist them put basics together.

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Date: 6/01/2015 07:40:21
From: Teleost
ID: 656965
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)

Start with a statutory declaration made by someone who has known the person for several years. The longer the period acquaintance the better.

Then go to Centrelink, they can help to get official documentation.

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Date: 6/01/2015 08:00:01
From: Spider Lily
ID: 656967
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)

How did they get into the country?
On their parents passport?
On a boat, if so which boat?
Via a plane, if so when?

When did they enter the country, a year, month or date as close as possible will help and there will be matches with Immigration.

There are many many people in the same boat and many that were born here but not had their birth registered..

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Date: 6/01/2015 11:57:35
From: furious
ID: 657033
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)

Australian woman Charmaine Webster who legally doesn’t exist due to unregistered birth, fights to prove her identity

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Date: 6/01/2015 12:13:00
From: transition
ID: 657034
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)

FORTY years ago Charmaine Webster was born. She doesn’t know which hospital, or even whether she was born in Australia, because her birth went unregistered.”

Looks to me as if BenterSpank have enough information alone to go then through the procedure and have a birth certificate issued.

What the example does illustrate is the extent individuals are subject of the apparatus before born, while alive, and as it goes after death too, and the monster wankery it imposes that is apparent in the fact that the situation wasn’t and hasn’t been remedied in good time.

The media presentation IMO too involves wankery around ‘identity’, though partly the angle is correct it likely is distorted by the reality that the media too is part of the apparatus and fucks people around similarly.

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Date: 6/01/2015 17:41:54
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 657134
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)


As far as I know centrelink can assist them put basics together.


Start with a statutory declaration made by someone who has known the person for several years. The longer the period acquaintance the better.

Then go to Centrelink, they can help to get official documentation.

Very interesting, that’s exactly what I hoped you’d say, but didn’t expect.

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Date: 6/01/2015 22:58:38
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 657228
Subject: re: Identity (non-sci)

Centrelink will advise you on how to get the required documentation, but not supply it.

It all depends on how they entered the country – if it was by transport, then they will need names, dates and locations and a visit to the Department of Immigration for the required documentation.

If it was through a birth canal, they also need names, dates, and locations and a visit to the Department of Birth Deaths and Marriages for the required documentation.

However, it may be easier to just get a fake identity.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queensland-woman-without-birth-certificate-doesnt-exist/story-fnihsrf2-1226978946274

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