http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-12/australian-internet-speeds-rank-44th-in-the-world/6012570

A US study has delivered an unwelcome finding about Australian internet speeds, finding that they are well behind the international pack.

One engineering expert said the nation would continue to tumble down in world rankings if the rollout of the National Broadband Network (NBN) continues in its current form.

The State of the Internet Report from cloud service provider Akamai ranks Australia 44th for average connection speed.

The US-based company produces the quarterly report looking at connection speeds and broadband adoption around the world.

Dr Mark Gregory, a network engineering expert from RMIT University, said the Akamai report was a reputable review.

“In the latest report, Australia has dropped a couple of places down to the 44th position, which is a pretty big drop really over such a short period of time,” he said.

Arts said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-12/australian-internet-speeds-rank-44th-in-the-world/6012570

A US study has delivered an unwelcome finding about Australian internet speeds, finding that they are well behind the international pack.

One engineering expert said the nation would continue to tumble down in world rankings if the rollout of the National Broadband Network (NBN) continues in its current form.

The State of the Internet Report from cloud service provider Akamai ranks Australia 44th for average connection speed.

The US-based company produces the quarterly report looking at connection speeds and broadband adoption around the world.

Dr Mark Gregory, a network engineering expert from RMIT University, said the Akamai report was a reputable review.

“In the latest report, Australia has dropped a couple of places down to the 44th position, which is a pretty big drop really over such a short period of time,” he said.

44th. Oh, how I wish mine was 44th!

> The State of the Internet Report from cloud service provider Akamai ranks Australia 44th for average connection speed.

Placards in front of parliament house Canberra is the only solution.

mollwollfumble said:

> The State of the Internet Report from cloud service provider Akamai ranks Australia 44th for average connection speed.

Placards in front of parliament house Canberra is the only solution.

The ranking in this report really shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone; it was very clear before the election that the LibNats were in favor of a FTTN NBN solution.

In this kingdom ordinary people are just not allowed nice things.

party_pants said:

In this kingdom ordinary people are just not allowed nice things.

My older sister in South Hobart has nice things – the proper Labor NBN installation. It’s not fair since she uses a lot less internet than this household (and I have supposed ADSL2 that is actually often not much faster than dialup).

I saw the guys putting in some cable they reckoned was for NBN a few months ago… I’ve still had to replace the mouse that runs the internet three times

seeing this is an internet thread.

Brandis takes the data retention debate beyond logic

JudgeMental said:

seeing this is an internet thread.

Brandis takes the data retention debate beyond logic

Meh, I still don’t know why anyone cares about data retention. It will make zero difference to nearly all of us.

Bubblecar said:

JudgeMental said:

seeing this is an internet thread.

Brandis takes the data retention debate beyond logic

Meh, I still don’t know why anyone cares about data retention. It will make zero difference to nearly all of us.

until of course that it does make a difference

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

JudgeMental said:

seeing this is an internet thread.

Brandis takes the data retention debate beyond logic

Meh, I still don’t know why anyone cares about data retention. It will make zero difference to nearly all of us.

until of course that it does make a difference

You’ve got nothing to fear if you’re not doing anything wrong, right?

Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

Meh, I still don’t know why anyone cares about data retention. It will make zero difference to nearly all of us.

until of course that it does make a difference

You’ve got nothing to fear if you’re not doing anything wrong, right?

IKR…

(this is for bubbles)

what say you have a penchant for a particular sexual fetish and as a result of a change of government in Australia this practice has been made illegal. Now you still don’t mind getting on line and viewing the New Zealand web site where you get to watch streaming content of this particular fetish but because of data retention laws this information is passed onto the AFP.

Taking it into Chat:

>what say you have a penchant for a particular sexual fetish and as a result of a change of government in Australia this practice has been made illegal. Now you still don’t mind getting on line and viewing the New Zealand web site where you get to watch streaming content of this particular fetish but because of data retention laws this information is passed onto the AFP.<

It’s the rightful responsibility of law enforcement agencies to pursue law-breakers. Bad laws should be challenged in the political arena, not evaded by arguing against measures that will enable the police to better enforce the law.

Bubblecar said:

Taking it into Chat:

>what say you have a penchant for a particular sexual fetish and as a result of a change of government in Australia this practice has been made illegal. Now you still don’t mind getting on line and viewing the New Zealand web site where you get to watch streaming content of this particular fetish but because of data retention laws this information is passed onto the AFP.<

It’s the rightful responsibility of law enforcement agencies to pursue law-breakers. Bad laws should be challenged in the political arena, not evaded by arguing against measures that will enable the police to better enforce the law.

Um, except I didn’t take it into Chat :)

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Arts said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-12/australian-internet-speeds-rank-44th-in-the-world/6012570

A US study has delivered an unwelcome finding about Australian internet speeds, finding that they are well behind the international pack.

One engineering expert said the nation would continue to tumble down in world rankings if the rollout of the National Broadband Network (NBN) continues in its current form.

The State of the Internet Report from cloud service provider Akamai ranks Australia 44th for average connection speed.

The US-based company produces the quarterly report looking at connection speeds and broadband adoption around the world.

Dr Mark Gregory, a network engineering expert from RMIT University, said the Akamai report was a reputable review.

“In the latest report, Australia has dropped a couple of places down to the 44th position, which is a pretty big drop really over such a short period of time,” he said.

If only we had a Federal Government who saw the importance of infrastructure.

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

Dropbear said:

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

I got a gig, early in the NBN piece, to do some of the power auditing so that exchange upgraded could be completed before the fibre was to go in. It was down in Tassie, and whilst we did look at some of the larger exchanges, the vast majority were of the smaller variety. It did confound me that they would start off the project in places other then the inner parts of the major capital cities.

Dropbear said:

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

sure… but the issue is that the NBN is still viewed by most as a luxury, rather than a vital piece of national infrastructure.

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

I got a gig, early in the NBN piece, to do some of the power auditing so that exchange upgraded could be completed before the fibre was to go in. It was down in Tassie, and whilst we did look at some of the larger exchanges, the vast majority were of the smaller variety. It did confound me that they would start off the project in places other then the inner parts of the major capital cities.

Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN. They’d be too far through to dump it if they had started in inner Syd/Mel

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

I got a gig, early in the NBN piece, to do some of the power auditing so that exchange upgraded could be completed before the fibre was to go in. It was down in Tassie, and whilst we did look at some of the larger exchanges, the vast majority were of the smaller variety. It did confound me that they would start off the project in places other then the inner parts of the major capital cities.

Unfortunately the current government is not the only one that has been more interested in buying votes than the long term benefit of the country.

the NBN should only have ever gone into NEW houses at the developers expense when no one was living in the house

new houses younger people requiring Internet , 50 percent if the installs I did were in older houses with old people who told me they were never going to use the Internet .

all the equipment being installed in houses low quality, made in china.

imagine if they had decided to design and manufacture here

>Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN.

… how long it took to roll out (the mostly underground) copper in Australia (and terrestrial radio links)…

…and did it it have a big name, like football, sport or something, or was it more modest, like we’ve got the phone on, mate…

transition said:

>Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN.

… how long it took to roll out (the mostly underground) copper in Australia (and terrestrial radio links)…

…and did it it have a big name, like football, sport or something, or was it more modest, like we’ve got the phone on, mate…

Could you try again with complete sentences ?

>Could you try again with complete sentences ?

the point was the rollout of the (now) old copper and terrestrial radio links etc wasn’t known by a big name that got used as a football, there wasn’t the gloss and hype and bullshit but the job got done and served australia well.

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

I got a gig, early in the NBN piece, to do some of the power auditing so that exchange upgraded could be completed before the fibre was to go in. It was down in Tassie, and whilst we did look at some of the larger exchanges, the vast majority were of the smaller variety. It did confound me that they would start off the project in places other then the inner parts of the major capital cities.

The Tasmanian Government formed their own company to bid for the contract to do the roll-out in Tassie. It happens they were the first to be ready to start, ahead of the private contractors in the mainland capitals.

transition said:

>Could you try again with complete sentences ?

the point was the rollout of the (now) old copper and terrestrial radio links etc wasn’t known by a big name that got used as a football, there wasn’t the gloss and hype and bullshit but the job got done and served australia well.

Ok. good point well made

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

To be fair, while we continue to live in spread out, geographically dispersed cities, it’s going to be hideously expensive and inefficient to provide fiber to all, and that’s just the capitals.

I got a gig, early in the NBN piece, to do some of the power auditing so that exchange upgraded could be completed before the fibre was to go in. It was down in Tassie, and whilst we did look at some of the larger exchanges, the vast majority were of the smaller variety. It did confound me that they would start off the project in places other then the inner parts of the major capital cities.

The Tasmanian Government formed their own company to bid for the contract to do the roll-out in Tassie. It happens they were the first to be ready to start, ahead of the private contractors in the mainland capitals.

So that would explain the early roll out in the Northern Territory then?

:)

Arts said:

I saw the guys putting in some cable they reckoned was for NBN a few months ago… I’ve still had to replace the mouse that runs the internet three times

Need better mouse food?

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

I saw the guys putting in some cable they reckoned was for NBN a few months ago… I’ve still had to replace the mouse that runs the internet three times

Need better mouse food?

I smell a rat.

Dropbear said:

transition said:

>Could you try again with complete sentences ?

the point was the rollout of the (now) old copper and terrestrial radio links etc wasn’t known by a big name that got used as a football, there wasn’t the gloss and hype and bullshit but the job got done and served australia well.

Ok. good point well made

Dropbear agreeing with transition??

That’s a bit of a worry.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I got a gig, early in the NBN piece, to do some of the power auditing so that exchange upgraded could be completed before the fibre was to go in. It was down in Tassie, and whilst we did look at some of the larger exchanges, the vast majority were of the smaller variety. It did confound me that they would start off the project in places other then the inner parts of the major capital cities.

The Tasmanian Government formed their own company to bid for the contract to do the roll-out in Tassie. It happens they were the first to be ready to start, ahead of the private contractors in the mainland capitals.

So that would explain the early roll out in the Northern Territory then?

:)

It explains the early roll-out in Tassie.

while we rank low on internet speed, i wouldn’t mind betting we high on cost

/

Dropbear said:

Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN. They’d be too far through to dump it if they had started in inner Syd/Mel

Neither Sydney or Melbourne CBD are even on the books to have it installed at the moment. That is just madness.

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN. They’d be too far through to dump it if they had started in inner Syd/Mel

Neither Sydney or Melbourne CBD are even on the books to have it installed at the moment. That is just madness.

Wut?
How is that even possible, they are our two major capital cities?

Aquila said:

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN. They’d be too far through to dump it if they had started in inner Syd/Mel

Neither Sydney or Melbourne CBD are even on the books to have it installed at the moment. That is just madness.

Wut?
How is that even possible, they are our two major capital cities?

They already have fast internet while regional areas have to get by on dial-up & satellite.

Aquila said:

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN. They’d be too far through to dump it if they had started in inner Syd/Mel

Neither Sydney or Melbourne CBD are even on the books to have it installed at the moment. That is just madness.

Wut?
How is that even possible, they are our two major capital cities?

Politics.

Tamb said:

Aquila said:

sibeen said:

Neither Sydney or Melbourne CBD are even on the books to have it installed at the moment. That is just madness.

Wut?
How is that even possible, they are our two major capital cities?

They already have fast internet while regional areas have to get by on dial-up & satellite.

This one.

Because:

School holidays. The exchange is heaving…..

sibeen said:

Dropbear said:

Gillard’s deal with the rural mob. It killed the NBN. They’d be too far through to dump it if they had started in inner Syd/Mel

Neither Sydney or Melbourne CBD are even on the books to have it installed at the moment. That is just madness.

in fairness, most of the major CBDs already have some degree of high bandwidth infrastructure

“..with old people who told me they were never going to use the Internet ……all the equipment being installed in houses low quality, made in china….”

you better not be talkin’ shit, wookie, you know there’s enough shit bein’ spoken in this world.